Dick Allen

QUOTE(beck72 @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 05:23 AM) I first see the Cubs targetting a SS who can hit leadoff. Julio Lugo from the d-rays fits that. Then they might target Pierre. If the Cubs get Lugo, they'll still be looking for some LH Ofers who can hit w/ power. Lugo is supposedly earmarked for Atlanta. The beautiful thing about this is players are actually turning away the chance to play for Dusty in the Urinal. If you read the Tribune, you would think it is every player's dream to put on the Cubs uniform and play in that disaster area.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 3, 2005 -> 01:52 PM) I wonder why no one has made a push at Washburn. He's a lefty whose not very hold. He's puts in his innings and had a 3.20 ERA last year (albeit not a record to brag about). He may be the one guy thats a little under-valued at this point of FA (that or he's asking for a ridiculous contract). He's a poor man's Mark Buerhle. Considering what some other very mediocre pitchers are getting, its amazing this guy isn't getting the interest, unless he and his agent are flying under the radar.

QUOTE(CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 02:04 PM) I don't think we're specualting any more ESPN is reporting that Frank will be released. They probably mean he won't be offerred arbitration. He's a free agent, his option was declined. He can't be released.

Mayo is the most disgusting thing ever invented. I hate all salad dressing, saurkraut, not a huge fan of mustard, broccoli is sickening as is tuna.

QUOTE(Steff @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 07:08 AM) Forgive me.. kindof.. but I think I've said exactly that several times already. And, again, I don't know where you heard Frank and Kenny are "friends".. but aside from professional courtesy, they are not. "Friends" don't try to trade you away when they think their boss isn't looking... "friends" don't talk s*** about you to the media... and "friends" don't disclose personal rifts. Kenny has been nothing but UNPROFESSIONAL where Frank is concerned.. and was called on it a few years ago at Soxfest - - and admitted as much. Exactly. Despite perhaps an improved relationship between the two this past season, KW has been waiting for this day for several years. Fortunately for him, the circumstances made what has happened a no-brainer or this could have been real ugly, way uglier than the Ordonez departure if JR allowed it to happen. The White Sox could not possibly depend on Frank ever being healthy again.

I think you have to give a lot of credit for Paulie re-signing to White Sox fans who stepped up and bought season tickets at a fever clip this offseason. With the club level and scout seats sold out, these are a couple of the priciest areas and have generated some extra revenue for JR and KW to spend on players.

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 02:25 PM) It's great we were able to bring him back and not have to trade the farm in order to find his replacement. That is a good point. I really thought he'd sign with the Angels.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 10:26 AM) We just won the World Series. Im not satisfied going into the season with our two hole hitter never playing a game in AAA. Sorry. The Sox won the WS with a closer who hadn't played above AA until August.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 01:46 PM) Exactly. We're looking to defend a World Championship. If we get a proven guy over a maybe guy, i'm all for it. After last season, Pierre would have to be considered a "maybe" guy himself. The Sox are going to have to work some of their prospects into the line-up somehow, or trade them. A healthy Thome with Konerko back would be an excellent opportunity to work a guy in with limited pressure to hit. I'm all for Anderson or Owens patrolling CF unless they want to really upgrade the postion and put an All Star out there. Paying Pierre $4 million and giving up talent for him while stunting the growth of your own prospects would be a mistake in my opinion.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 02:02 PM) 1994: Thomas .353 38HR 101 RBI Franco: .319 20 HR 98 RBI in stirke shortened year 1998: Thomas .265 29 HR 109 RBI Belle .328 49 HR 152 RBI 2000: Thomas .328 43 HR 143 RBI Ordonez .315 32 HR 126 RBI If you project those 1994 numbers, those 2 are both close to 150 rbi. Frank would be at about 50 homers, Franco probably 28. So productivity-wise Thomas/Franco is #1.

QUOTE(Steff @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 01:44 PM) Thomas/Franco has got to be slightly better As far as production, there is no question.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 01:32 PM) Yeah, I don't see us making any trades until the trade deadline. Kenny loves having flexbility at the deadline unless someone proposes a deal to us that knocks our Sox off. Do you think last season's trouble trying to find someone to pull the trigger on a deal may change his philosophy a little? Obviously he wanted something more significant and was unable to do so, on the other hand he did win a World's championship. It would be interesting to see if it does have an effect on how he operates this season.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 01:23 PM) The Score is asking if Konerko/Thome will be the best back to back (in the line up) Sox players ever. It depends on how they do together. Before they played together and one struggled when the other didn't, Belle and Thomas was pretty impressive.

QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 01:12 PM) I think Marte will go and Duque if someone is willing to eat some of that contract, outside of that I think KW is done and he did a GREAT job For Duque to be moved, the Sox would have to pick up most of his contract and not get much back. Considering the influence he has had on Contreras, it probably wouldn't be wise to move him.

QUOTE(Iwritecode @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 01:06 PM) I think there is a chance they still bring Frank back in a platoon role with Thome. Check out their splits. Frank hits better against lefties and Thome hits better against righites. I don't think KW would ship 2 pretty good pitching prospects plus a major league CF and pay the guy he gets $8 million a year to platoon. Frank Thomas---------he gone.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 01:03 PM) i agree with you, but i dont think big frank does If it means he has to play somewhere else, he may change his thought process. The bottom line is there is an excellent chance he physically won't be able to play anymore.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 01:02 PM) I would've thought KW would have some loyalty toward Big Frank. Seeing him in another uniform will be disgusting. Maybe Frank can partner up with Farmio in the radio booth

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 12:59 PM) pierre iguchi thome Konerko dye aj crede uribe pods Didn't KW tell Paulie that he was going to get Thome to protect him? If that's the case, doesn't Paulie hit 3rd and Thome 4th?

QUOTE(daa84 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 12:40 PM) best of luck big frank Exactly. RIP Frank Thomas' White Sox career if not his baseball career.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 12:24 PM) How about an artificial hip? You can get a real good one for $60 million.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 12:08 PM) Chances of repeating go down big time if we lose PK. We must get him back. Yes they do, unless they have a great back-up plan.

Touring facilities, looking at housing is all basic stuff. Don't read too much into it.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 10:35 AM) If Paulie gets 13 each yr for 4 years here or 13 each yr for 5 years somewhere else, what's he going to take? Is he going to hang the Sox on the 5th year? He should especially if its the Angels. Anaheim is the perfect place for him, they train 15 miles from his home. That's 6 weeks per year of being able to stay in your primary residence which is huge considering his newborn, and probably plans for more. Anaheim is a lot closer to his home than Chicago. The weather is great. He is quiet and may not crave the spotlight, although that sometimes seems hard to believe. There have been a few posts on Paulie maybe being able to get more endorsement money in Chicago. I really question whether he really is interested in that.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 10:27 AM) Owens is still very raw and I'm still not sure whether he's ready. I would like to give him another year in aaa and then give him a shot to make the team in 07 and I'm pretty positive the sox feel the same way. Dave Wilder, the same guy who said Bobby Jenks was ready last season, thought Owens was ready in August.

Considering Paulie's hip was the main reason Lasorda traded him to Cincinatti, and considering all the talk about Paulie's hip on this board in 2003 especially, his hip condition should be no surprise to anyone here. Considering the White Sox and Paulie when questioned have always denied there was even a small issue with his hip, the fact that this leaked out now from a "high ranking" White Sox official may give some credence to fathom's theory.