Dick Allen

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 07:29 PM) I just showed you that he has pretty much dominated everyone buy Oakland and Boston. What the hell are you talking about. Go look at his game log. Cleveland, Detroit, Baltimore, Anaheim, etc. etc. How come everyone hasn't crushed the lesser teams and have a low ERA like Buerhle? Because he has the best f***ing ERA in the league. Unreal. Great. He's good against everyone except probable playoff opponents.

Yeah Hawk, blame the game on the 3 unearned runs. That means 4 are earned and the hitless wonders have their 2 run limit. Game over.

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 07:25 PM) How the hell is this Buerhle's fault? Maybe if we got a f***ing rally we would have a shot. Let's see over the weekend we got 5, 4 and 2 runs in Minnesota we got 0 6 (yipee) and 2 runs. Prior to this we lost 7 in a row. The pressure on our staff is incredible as th likes of every hitter in this lineup underachieves. Pierzynski has 47 RBI's??? That is less than Uribe with 8 more home runs. Podsednik is a nice player but he isn't goign to turn this around. Rowand, well he has a nice outing in center at Yankee stadium. We are not the shoe in to the playoffs we think we are. We have not come back in a game in weeks (more than arun down). This was how we were a winning team. THIS IS NoOBUERHLE's FAULT. We are getting schooled by a s***ty pitcher YET AGAIN. That's the problem. This anemic offense puts so much pressure on the pitching staff, eventually they are going to cave. One thing is for sure. If the offense continues to struggle, and the Sox make the playoffs, the pitching staff is going to be exhaused.

Blum with rbi's.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 07:12 PM) Maybe they don't want to give up Vizquel. Maybe they want to keep him around for next year because they know they will need to make a run as it will probabaly be Bonds last year there and everyone is gettting old. He's saying when he was a free agent. If they added another year at about $3 million, Omar would be at SS.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 07:10 PM) Thanks, "ace." Buerhle obviously could be better. At least he's not wasting a 1 hitter on a loss.

QUOTE(quickman @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 07:05 PM) well if he got here tommorrow: a) the fans would go nuts B) We instantly become the talk of the playoff teams nationwide C) He instantly puts power in our lineup. D) We sell more tickets. E) He makes our lineup better. Good press, good power, superstar, left handed hitter, all makes for a whirlwind of confidence this team would get a huge shot in the arm. that is why KW is tryign so hard to get him. He is a difference maker. Not to mention the intimidation. The White Sox are getting to be a pretty comfortable oppenent for opposing pitchers. Adding Griffey would make everyone better. Too bad it isn't going to happen. It would have been perfect.

Who on this thread honesty thinks the White Sox as they are constructed right now are serious WS contenders?

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 07:02 PM) But when your team clearly needs offensive help, you have to find some type of spark. The thing that has concerned me most with KW has been that he's seemed to get fixated on Huff or Griffey Jr. All along, I keep hearing how we would only add a superstar. Well, at quite a few positions, even an average player would be an upgrade over what we have. And getting locked in on Huff with Tampa Bay's history of asking prices and reluctance to trade was a waste of time at the deadline, if it was true.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 06:54 PM) I can agree with your overvalue part. Joe Borchard, anyone? And a whole bunch of pitchers. Although KW wasn't GM at the time, but he was the farm director.

QUOTE(That funky motion @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 06:50 PM) I got 9-8 cleveland. Hawks got 9-6 detroit. I'll take Hawks score! The guy that worked on Hawk's eyes is a quack.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 06:50 PM) KW already said the package he offered Cinci for Randa was much better than what SD offerred. He can't make them accept the deal. Maybe in his mind it was, but not in Cinci's. Part of the problem is the White Sox have overvalued their prospects for years. KW needs to put his money where is mouth is. Using one of his lines, why do you give up an additional prospect who probably won't be anything special in the big leagues? "1917"

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 06:44 PM) *sigh* So we were supposed to give up EVERYTHING we have... based on Tampa holding us hostage, or the Reds telling us no? No one moved, because the market wasn't conducive to making a move. I'm glad you were able to confirm that. Joe Randa moved. KW came in second. Tony Graffinino moved. KW came in second. KW could have given a better package for either of those without giving up EVERYTHING we have.

QUOTE(quickman @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 06:42 PM) whats interesting is the Tigers got 5 in the first tonight and the Tribe didn't even blink. Came back and got 6 in the first, both of those teams can hit better than us. We are good against bad teams fortunatly there are alot of those. We will need to matchup against the Angels, Yanks, redsox, oakland, even cleveland. All can outhit us any night. The only two worse offensive teams than the Sox in the AL are Seattle and KC, both enjoying the basement.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 06:39 PM) If KW thinks we can hold off a superior talented Indians team the rest of the way, more power to him. It's his ass on the line, not ours. If the Sox don't win the division, KW and Ozzie should be shown the door.

Maybe the Penquin can get a hit.

Cleveland 7 Detroit 7 bottom of the 4th. I have a bad feeling things are going to get very, very tight the next couple of weeks.

Way to step it up, MB

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 06:29 PM) Why is AJ batting 5th again?? Because KW doesn't want to mess with the team's "chemistry" and actually give his team a chance at a world title

QUOTE(quickman @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 06:25 PM) yes todays game will get out of hand, and Mcarthy will get shelled. sorry for the confusion. I thought it was odd, given how McCarthy has been handled by Texas and how long this game had been scheduled, that they didn't have BMac pitch in Seattle and back everyone up a day.

QUOTE(quickman @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 06:21 PM) but we don't need anymore offensive players. Look we don't match up well with these guys. mcarthy will get his ass handed to him tommorrow. its unfortunate. This game will get out of hand in a hurry. Look on the brightside, we will get to see the great baj! We don't. Pods is back. His bunt attempts and infield hits are worth at least 2 runs a game.

If you had the Rangers line-up and the White Sox pitching staff, you could get fitted for rings in June and it wouldn't be cocky.

I tell you something, Buerhle doesn't have many more runs to play with.

Hawk and DJ talk about almost every pitcher the Sox face as if they are peers of Koufax, Carlton, Clemens.

I would rather have Todd Walker on my team than Willie Harris who was recalled today as Crede went on the DL. The White Sox need to pick up someone who can hit or there will be no joy at the end of this baseball season.