Dick Allen

He is 25 years old, has a minor league track record of giving up runs and not striking many out. He helped the tank, but is horrible. He won't be on any contending team.

Goldberg is bad. Hawk said they have used 24 pitchers this year. You are going to get a fair share that shouldn't be there.

Holland on any other team probably would have been waived by now.

QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Aug 19, 2017 -> 08:48 PM) The Covey experiment continues to underwhelm. Thus, tank on! He sucked to begin with. Missing so much time is only going to make him worse. I don't really know what the Sox see in him, but hopefully it will pay off. It will be interested to see what they do in the rule 5. I read where they Yankees are going to have a 40 man problem. If the Sox have the top pick, they might get someone interesting. Billy McKinney was mentioned.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 19, 2017 -> 08:37 PM) You said all along it was a horrible fit and that he would get destroyed once it got hot out. I was hoping I was wrong as he did look good early. I just hope if they sign some guys they want to flip this offseason flyball pitchers should be scratched off the list. But he helped the losing. So in a way, I am sure there were few regrets. $6 million was a bit much for him though.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 19, 2017 -> 08:33 PM) His ERA was 2.37 after 10 starts Last 14 starts 62 innings 67 earned runs.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 18, 2017 -> 02:37 PM) Yes, in fact, baseball is becoming quite a bit more like football. Now that we've moved out of the steroid era, guys playing past 35 and remaining very effective has become much, much more rare. This article was written in 2013 but it's just as valid now as it was 4 years ago. The average age was approximately 30 years old in 2002 and that age dropped to 26 in 2012. It has probably remained at about that age overall. Guys just can't play that long without some help. Beyond that, no, Jose Abreu is not a super special player. He is a good hitter who does not play very good defense. Leadership like his is not valued in the trade market because the leadership he provides the White Sox super young ballclub is not equal to the value it would offer in a clubhouse like the Red Sox. Funny thing is, before the steroid era, many played until they were 40 or so. I personally think the big thing is velocity. It's one thing a 38-42 year old hitting 92 MPH gas, it's another if it's 97. And pitchers topping off at 92 better have pinpoint control or some great offspeed stuff. Pitches are being thrown a lot faster than they used to be thrown IMO.

How come the Fake News press doesn't press Trump on his plan to defeat ISIS, one he claimed he had during the campaign. He knows more than the Generals, believe me. It seems with his pig blood tweets and the like, he has totally forgot he had a foolproof plan. Someone should remind him.

Bannon is out. That's a start, and probably what he wanted.

QUOTE (Quin @ Aug 17, 2017 -> 09:55 PM) Had no idea Matt Bush got into the bigs finally. The Sox lit him up and beat him a little more than a month ago when he was a closer. He was throwing 100, but they had no problem with him then.

The piece of bat at first I couldn't figure out until they showed the replay and he was carry his handle, dropped it and inadvertently kicked it.

My cousin's wife was there when it happened. Luckily, she was unharmed.

QUOTE (knightni @ Aug 17, 2017 -> 03:07 PM) Snopes said that there's no proof. It definitely is true. Trump makes sure of the facts before he tweets or says something.

Here is the reporter on VICE News who was imbedded with the Nazis, confirming Trump is full of s*** about the nice people unless he is referring to Nazis. http://theweek.com/speedreads/718957/vice-...-about-altright

I'm thinking Spicey must kiss the ground every morning he isn't in the WH press room anymore.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 17, 2017 -> 12:38 PM) I don't think Trump has expressed himself very well the last few days. I think Kasisch is right. He's trying to win an argument basically. He's sort of turned into the mean version of Greg on this board. "By gawd some of those people (white surpremists) are good people; by gawd I like statues. They are just statues. You can learn from history." In other words like me he has his stern opinions but doesn't always express himself correctly the first time so keeps trying to win the argument and bury himself more. He should just resign though. Stern is right. he hates being president. He made his point. Now give it to Kasisch (damn that's illegal; Pence has to take over). The guy is racist. If it were a bunch of Muslims marching or illegals from Mexico, and the same thing happened, what are the chances he says there are some fine Muslims, or some fine illegals? He needs to go for sure because he is incompetent. Donald Trump knows how to bully his way into deals developing real estate. That doesn't work in government. And he's a one trick pony. It's his only move. Be a bully. His true colors are showing under the orange make up on his face and the yellow dye in his hair.

Apparently Trump got all the talking points of his crazy press conference from Fox News. He said he watched the video more carefully than anyone else, apparently he meant the Fox News programs. From The Week: That line Trump used about waiting to get all "the facts" before he made a statement condemning the violence of white nationalists at the rally in Charlottesville, Virginia? Fox said it first. Trump's claim that there was violence on "both sides"? Fox said that too. His mentions of the alt-left? Fox News' Sean Hannity loves to talk about that. His insistence that there were some "very fine people" marching alongside white supremacists and neo-Nazis? Yep, that's a Fox favorite. Even Trump's hypothetical question about whether monuments to George Washington and Thomas Jefferson should also be taken down because, as he pointed out, they were slave owners, was first asked on Fox.

Since it was cash or a PTBNL, the Sox were at that point, probably picking up everything but the minimum, so maybe the technicality is Houston has to pay the Sox now to pay their player.

KW was kind of the same type of prospect as Tim Anderson. Very athletic, football instead of basketball background. Hit pretty decently when he came up as a CF. The Sox tried to make him a 3B, and it all went south, the bat, the glove. Hopefully, Anderson has a better fate playing-wise. It does appear he is coming out of his fog.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 12:32 PM) Yeah, no, there isn't anything different between what the White Sox have done in the last 9 months and what they did in 2015. I won't argue with you because if you can't see that they actually have a solid plan in place to develop sustainable winning, then you're head has been in the sand for that same 9 month period. What does amuse me is the blind faith people are putting in this front office. Supposedly they couldn't identify major league pieces that fit a winning roster, couldn't draft or develop for s*** for years, now they acquire all these prospects and are geniuses. They are going to win 100 games a year for a decade. To me, identifying major league players who can help a team vs. prospects who will develop into stars, seems to be a lot easier. And the people in charge failed to do the easy one. Why is it a slam dunk this is going to work out just fine? The wrong guys go south and this could be a disaster. They did what they did, and probably what they had to do, I'm still looking at it cautiously. I'm not sold on the talent evaluators and developers. I don't know why they suddenly would become top of the line.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 10:39 AM) Yes, because professional sports owners never say one thing and do another. Its not my dream, there was a lot of speculation thrown around last winter that JR was open to selling the team. I am just piecing together data points and drawing a conclusion, it may be totally incorrect, but its what I am able to discern from the extremely limited data points that have been given. The speculation was wrong. When has JR ever publicly said something and did the exact opposite? Sorry, I am just amazed how JR saying he's in it for the long run means anything else but what he says. If he said he was thinking about selling, would that mean he wasn't going to sell? The speculation was just that, speculation. No sources, just opinions.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 09:30 AM) Interesting. This is what several MLB franchises have done with their top executives before selling the team, the Marlins are the latest example. Its a way of giving them a golden parachute in case the new owner wants to clean house, and puts the new owner on the hook for any buyouts. But at the same time JR is saying in the article that he plans to be around for quite a while longer. Given the smoke in the media about a possible sale last winter, I still think things are pointing in the direction that the team is sold within the next 18 months, right before the next TV contract negotiations are commenced. Clearly, if JR says he is going nowhere and wants to be around for when the team is good again, it means the team will be sold in 18 months. Sorry, your dream of JR selling isn't happening, as he has stated on many occassions.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 09:19 AM) Maybe, I think overall though people would agree that Youtube and Yahoo comment sections aren't worth much. There probably isn't a comment section on the internet that anyone should use as some sort of source for fact. It's just a great way for people hiding behind their computers to be obnoxious without repercussions.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 08:48 AM) Lmao. Only you Actually, he has a point. Trump gives a yahoo comments section equivalent with just about anything he comments about. That doesn't make it OK to use yahoo comments as a source for news, but it does go to show how far the presidency position has fallen. It's to the point, you have to assume just about everything coming out of his mouth is bulls***.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 08:23 AM) Not sure why you are responding to that with your comment, things like the drive by seem like we would have heard about that. I've heard a mix of some of those things from reports but comment sections have tendency to play telephone with real events. And when they fabricate I think it undercuts the many powerful true stories of Saturday. The commander in chief gave us all a yahoo comment section alt right review of the situation. That shouldn't just scare and offend democrats. These fine people had their permit and were peacefully protesting when these people in all black with helmets and baseball bats...VICE News was with some of the supremists. One guy was packing 5 guns and a knife. In fact, he joked at the end he had so many weapons he forgot about the automatic weapon in his bag. That fine Nazi was just trying to protect himself vs. true evil. I'm sure there are tons of BS on both sides of yahoo comments. I agree with the drive by assessement, it probably didn't happen, but it wouldn't be surprising some bad stuff happened that we didn't hear about. Death kind of takes up the news cycle.