Dick Allen

QUOTE (Scoots @ Aug 12, 2017 -> 09:21 AM) Ya boy Shields is pitching tonight...might be a good game for the pro-tankers. I think if the Sox continue to hit, they can pull this one out of the hat. It definitely has been fun watching these young guys play, and seeing glimpses of the future. First pitch 6:10 Central. Enjoy!!! I get to go to another Shields start. What fun.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 11, 2017 -> 04:07 PM) "He will truly regret it and regret it fast." -- Wow what a comment from Trump. ... He said if Kim issues a 'threat' to any of our allies or Guam this is what will happen. This story isn't getting enough play. this is the biggest story in our lifetimes, folks, the official possibility of thermonuclear war at any moment. Trump's comment was truly scary. This is the one cock measuring contest where Trump actually has the largest cock, in terms of firepower. So no surprise he wants to play. This is exactly the thing that was mentioned by the anti Trump contingent during the campaign to fear, so it should come as no surprise. His handlers better get a hold of him, and maybe let on to the American people and Repubican leaders that yes, this guy is not fit to be president, and so,etching must be done about it right away.It may delay or end any hope that the rich will get a tax break any time soon, but it may save millions of lives, including Americans.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Aug 11, 2017 -> 02:05 PM) Oh, you clear waivers before you get outright, and not after? Must be a quick process then. Thanks for the clarification, by the way. I wasn't sure how that nuance worked exactly. Usually you read he would get DFA'd, and during that time he would get placed on waivers. He probably got sent through waivers with the rest of the team right after the trade deadline.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Aug 11, 2017 -> 01:47 PM) Its just bizarre because I believe besides the vets in Clippard and Petricka, the rest of the bullpen has options. The Sox outrighted Holmberg off the 40 man when they still had 4 open spots (now 5). I believe Holmberg has to pass through outright waivers to get sent to Charlotte, but I could be mistaking on that. Just seems strange to risk losing him, even if he doesn't have much upside. He is at least a usable lefty reliever. If he was outrighted, he made it through waivers. If he wants to continue to get paid, he'll go to Charlotte.

He's been pretty bad lately. Not much upside.

Granted, a lot of it was done against people who will be asking if you want your sandwich toasted at Subway in a few weeks, but he was impressive. Couple that with how inept Glennon looked, and it makes you wonder.

All that is missing is circus music. What a clown show.

Rick has received a lot of credit before, then all his moves that were praised were blamed on KW. Might want to wait it out before he is anointed a baseball genius.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Aug 10, 2017 -> 11:05 AM) I don't think it's a question of smart or dumb. I think trump is mentally unstable. I think he thinks he the smartest guy ever, but really is dumb, which, in his current position, is a dangerous mix. And he also seems to be unstable, in need of constant praise. A smart person, thinking they are smart, is no big deal, unless they think they can't possibly not know everything. They can be full of themselves, but at least they can back it up. Trump thinks he knows it all. Why didn't he hammer out a health care bill? He said he learned all there is to know about heath care in a very short time because he is so smart.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Aug 10, 2017 -> 11:23 AM) Or they can simply just think it's silly and dumb because they think it's silly and dumb. Kind of like the "Turn Ahead the Clock" Jerseys they wore in the early 90's. No harm, but there is a reason they never did it again. Nothing to do with "change". Not going to affect whether or not I watch the game or whatever. It's not that important. But not everyone has to like or agree with everything that happens either. It wasn't that long ago that you rarely saw someone wearing a jersey in the stands. Now they all have the regular, the alternate, the Sunday, the Mother's Day, the Father's Day, the turn back the clock, the Memorial Day/Independence day, the All Star, the Players Choice...and that is just minimum. Too me, it's a bit much. But as long as I can tell who the players are, I'm not really bothered but money is the motivation. Think about how all the weekend themed uniforms and hats change every year. They are selling you something. If people want to buy it, great. I do get more irked when they seemingly wear their black alternates more than the regular uniforms.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 10, 2017 -> 09:51 AM) If you can't meet the basic rules of professionalism for your job you should not have that job. Apparently he is doing something correctly. Only 2 men have umpired more MLB games than Cowboy Joe. I don't agree with him much, but at least he's not a robot.

What is so surprising is Trump hasn't been able to negotiate a diplomatic solution. He is after all, perhaps the greatest negotiator this earth has ever seen. That's what he does...makes great deals. So often, you kind of get sick of them. In fact, instead of being like Obama and on the golf course, he is just going to sit in the WH and make even more great deals. He's a treasure.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Aug 10, 2017 -> 08:06 AM) Looks like i'm in the minority of people that thinks this is just dumb Just a marketing gimmick to drum up money for the league I agree. With all the special uniforms, it's just to get people to buy more stuff. I do think it's dumb, but it doesn't really bother me. It's like the Hallmark holidays now. I do wonder if any team will break from the norm and go back to a pullover full time.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 10:07 PM) An umpire can't criticize a player publicly. They're supposed to be unbiased judges. If he can't keep up that appearance then he should retire. Thanks for making my point. OMG, Joe West said Beltre is a great player but lousy umpire. He is so biased.

QUOTE (KagakuOtoko @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 04:53 PM) He is entitled to his own opinion. He just needs to win games. He's already making bad choices. And I really like Lebron. But he's no MJ.

Kinsler has a $12 million option and a $5 million buyout. Good chance he is making $12 million next year. Most contenders are pretty set at 2b. Maybe the Brew Crew. Villar has regressed, but is it permanent.

Someone should pay homage to the XFL and use He Hate Me. Or maybe Brooks should get He Hate Me to throw out a first pitch, decked out in a jersey.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 02:41 PM) It is incredibly easy to draw the artificial lines in hindsight. Quitting on Anderson now is a horrible idea. Who is quitting on him? I do think if you went back to the thread on this signing, you would find my opinion is not one of hindsight. It's not a killer by any stretch, but a good deal for him to sign as opposed to others.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 02:44 PM) Oh well that solves it. The question I have is since Trump sort of threatened NK with nukes, couldn't it work the other way where God has now given authority to take Trump out?

Oh boy, evil doers makes a comeback. I do endorse assassination as the best of bad choices, but hopefully it could come from someone not American: Texas megachurch pastor Robert Jeffress, one of President Trump’s evangelical advisers who preached the morning of his inauguration, has released a statement saying the president has the moral authority to “take out” North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. “When it comes to how we should deal with evildoers, the Bible, in the book of Romans, is very clear: God has endowed rulers full power to use whatever means necessary — including war — to stop evil,” Jeffress said. “In the case of North Korea, God has given Trump authority to take out Kim Jong Un.”

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 02:08 PM) Francisco Lindor doesn't count? Hmmm. And the rest is the entire point. If he had played well, he would have been in line for a lot bigger contract. This theory is quite literally the seeds of this rebuild. If the Sox don't offer very early extensions to Sale, Eaton, and Q, we are no where in our rebuild. If we had waited another year for those guys too, it would have been a lot more expensive. Since when has anyone ever put Tim Anderson in Francisco Lindor's area code? That's insane. Lindor turned down an extension after 2 years much better than Anderson's first year. 4.5 WAR in 99 games, then a 6.3 WAR. Do you really think Tim Anderson can be that? And the Sox didn't give the extensions to those players the same time they gave Anderson his. It's pretty obvious they jumped the gun. No team had ever done what the White Sox did. Ever. Maybe it works out in the end. I just think if it is so brilliant, Tim Anderson wouldn't be the record holder. I don't want to kick him while he is down, but there were red flags with him. He does have ability, without a doubt. But not Francisco Lindor ability or baseball acumen.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 01:54 PM) The answer is if they waited another year, the extension price could have very well gone up another $10 to $20 million and another year or two of a contract. Realize that Anderson isn't the biggest early extension ever, nor is he the earliest extension ever. He just fits a very specific set of criteria to make his extension sound more extreme than it really was if you aren't looking at the big picture. I'd also be willing to get that Anderson's "record" is eclipsed very quickly with some of the young talent coming into the game and the desire to lock them up cheaply and early. Yes he is the biggest extension that early ever. And the extensions you came up with were nowhere near the $100 million you earlier claimed. A lot would have had to go right for an extension to cost $20 million more than what Anderson signed. He would have had to play a lot better.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 12:24 PM) Chris Sale - 5 years, $32.5 million Jose Quintana - 5 years, $21 million Adam Eaton - 5 years, $23.5 million All three were more proven and further along than TA is. Where are you getting this $100 million figure? Anderson got the largest extension ever given to someone with less than 1 year service time. So while it isn't cost prohibiitive, the fact is no team had ever done it. They put a lot of faith in TA. Hopefully, they will be rewarded.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2017 -> 05:56 PM) If you wait until the stage where it isn't premature, the cost goes from $25 million to $100 million. No way. Not for where he was service wise. He had less than one year service time. It was the largest extension in baseball history given to someone with less than 1 year service time. He would have 3 years of making barely more than the minimum and 3 arb years where it doesn't get too expensive the first or second year, but they are paying him more for that anyway. Basically, the Sox bought 2 option years at the end for $1 million buyouts. A $12.5 million and $14 million. If he is worth the option years it's a good deal.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 8, 2017 -> 08:20 PM) I haven't seen him defensively, so I don't know how well he'd play overall, but I really think he'd be just fine in the majors right now. Almost think of how Miguel Cabrera impacted that 2003 season and that's what I think Eloy would do in the majors right now. Obviously calling him up would be very, very dumb for so many reasons, but he's a monster. I actually saw an article where a scout comped him to Miggy.