Dick Allen

Q was always Friday only.

In the end, it doesn't matter where Keith Law ranks Yoan Moncada. His play will let you know where he should have been ranked.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 06:44 PM) According to Cowley they are so irate that they are going to buyout Rondo. Seems to miss the bigger point of the whole mess. http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/rajon-r...ade-on-twitter/ Rondo wanted a buyout. He played them like the fools they are.

Why is GarPax silent?

Jimmy and Wade pulled a dick move going to the press last night with the we did our jobs no one else did theirs BS. That is not leadership. Rondo, IMO, has the correct thinking, but putting it on Instagram was a dick move as well. What a mess of a franchise. Your move, Gar.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 12:44 PM) That's fine...all the losses. Imagine if we were able to deal Q and sign Hammel. We would be replacing Sale and Quintana with Holland and Hammel and people would still think we are going to be good next year lol Losing is one thing. Having many games blown open by the 2nd or 3rd inning could set the fanbase back a bunch. I stick until the end of blowouts until the end. I bail on rain delays. But last year, I had several Shields starts, and it was getting very difficult keeping up with tradition. People who aren't into it as much are going to become disinterested faster.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 02:00 PM) Adam Eaton hit 14 homers last season in about 700 PAs. Tilson has managed 19 HR in over 2000 MiLB ABs. Eaton also put up 29 doubles in that stretch. Tilson has put up 59 in over 2000 PA's. There is going to be a large loss in both ISO and OBP. Again, we are talking at least 50 to 75 OPS points, and that is if Tilson doesn't suffer any loss of speed from the Hammy tear last year. Tilson is a 4th OF in a starters clothing. No he's just as good as Adam Eaton, well almost as good. Just because he gets on base, runs the bases well, is a good fielder with a good arm, has a little pop with the bat, people think he's a good player. LMAO. His 6.0 WAR last year is easily replaced.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 01:13 PM) I doubt it. That place is always full. I think it's starting to crack. They are really expensive, and the re-sale sucks. You could have sat in the Club level last night for $16 plus fees on Stubhub. Lower Center for $48. I think they are over $200 each face value. I had some partial season tickets a long time ago. Last summer they were hounding me to buy some season tickets. First time they did that. But I agree about Lloyd. He was supposedly the guy who targeted Butler and Gibson. For drafting that late, those were great picks. The year he left, Teague was picked. One of the worst shooters in NBA history.

QUOTE (Footlongcomiskeydog @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 10:27 AM) The OP must have been hitting the Jack or Tito hard. That was one hell of a crazy post. I'm not sold that the Sox front office is completely on board with tearing this thing down to the studs. The "bad apples" are gone and that is it so far. KW and Jerry are still running the show and rebuild is not in their vocabulary. They are a lot of desperate mediocre veterans still looking for a contract and time is running out. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if the following signings are announced at SoxFest and/or sometime in early February. Kurt Suzuki - 1 year contract-5.5 million ( Will platoon with either Soto/Navarez) Dude is a sox killer and rakes at Sox Park. Has bad defensive metrics but the Sox front office doesn't seem to care much about that if last years catcher signings were any indication. Ryan Howard- 1 year -6 million base with incentives that could push it over 10 million. (will primarily DH and Spell Abreu at first) Total Kenny signing here. He tried to catch lighting in a bottle last year with Rollins why not try again with Howard? Angel Pagan-1 year 8 million- (will start in Center) It doesn't sound like Tilson is gonna be ready for opening day and may never be the same player after that gruesome hamstring injury. Pagan will give a veteran presence in the outfield. Plus, he has never played in the AL before. KW and company like those kind of FA signings. Jason Hammel- 1 year-12 million- (Slots in as #3 starter behind Q and Rodon) Hammel is getting desperate for a contract and settles on a one year deal to build value. Sox need another righty in starting rotation. Travis Wood- 1 year- 7 million (Slots in as a jack of all trades and an insurance policy for if/when Holland & Shields implode) Wood is getting desperate for a deal as well. Sox sign two ex Cubs pitchers hoping some of the good juju from last year rolls over. 2017 Opening Day Lineup 1) Anderson-SS 2) Pagan-CF 3) Abreu-1B 4) Frazier-3B 5) Cabrera-LF 6) Howard-DH 7) Lawrie-2B 8) Garcia-RF 9) Suzuki-C Starting Roation 1) Q 2) Rodon 3) Hammel 4) Gonzalez 5) Holland/Shields (one is guaranteed to implode ala Danks/Latos last year) Bullpen DRob Jones Putnam Wood Petrickia Jennings Ynoa Covey Like James Shields and Derek Holland, Jason Hammel's style of pitching doesn't translate well at Guaranteed Rate Field.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 12:26 PM) How do you know this is Robertson's low point? What are the offers? That he's still here speaks volumes. It wouldn't take much for the Sox to punt on the money they owe him for 2 years of rebuilding.

Robertson had a hip issue and a knee issue last year. Let's all hope at least one of those was the reason for the drop off in command. If he gets that back, he will be fine. He's unhittable at times. The only pitcher in MLB history to average more than 10k/9 innings each of his first 8 years.

What needs to be done is Gar/Pax and Fred should be fired. The only exception I would make to try to squeeze something out of this year and make Pax take some responsibility would tell Pax fire Gar, fire Fred, you're the coach for the rest of this season. Show us what you were supposed to accomplish. Then, when they finish around .500 with the 8th seed and a quick knockout, have him go away.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 11:42 AM) You guys are advocating John Paxson getting a 7th coach? 7? That's absurd. Hoiberg probably can't coach but if you watch this dumpster fire and he's the first thing you blame then we are watching different televisions. I agree. If the Bulls need a new coach, Gar and Pax shouldn't be the guys selecting him. Nor, if they thought anything other than what is happening would happen this season, should they be putting together a roster. I don't like Gar as much as anyone, but Pax is just as to blame.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 09:01 AM) I can't wait until we spend 15 billion to build this dumb wall and it doesn't work. I'd like to post comments from Paul Ryan about how we don't have the money for something. It would take hours to do. If he's building a 30 foot high wall, invest in 31 foot ladders.

QUOTE (QuickJones81 @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 07:19 AM) Explain his motivation here? If he changes his evaluations for an agenda he will be less accurate. Poor accuracy over time puts his job in jeopardy. Furthermore, no one he may have an axe to grind with in the white Sox organization pays attention to his list. They are reliant on their own scouts and lists. So wheres the payoff for Law? Just to aggravate Sox fans? Please. I think in reality he tends to swing pessimistic on prospects he's not in love with. We as fans want these prospects to be stars, so we swing optimistic. So we won't agree with him often. That doesn't mean he has an agenda. More likely he is far less biased than you are and making a fair assessment based on the things he believes are significant to projecting success supported by a history of feedback. Sorry it doesn't fit with your fantasy of future greatness. When you are a GM or scouting director, you are held to what you get wrong, and expected to get everything right. When you are making prospect lists for ESPN or fangraphs or BA or BP, you are praised for what you eventually get right, and not held to what you get wrong. Outside of the top maybe 20 guys if that, most of the top 200 prospects if you are including 17 years olds, are pretty interchangeable. There have been eventual stars never ranked, and busts in the top 10. How many times has Law seen each of the guys he has ranked actually play? He can throw Tatis Jr. out there because he did fine for a 17 year old, and has some pedigree. If he's right, he ranked him higher than anyone else. If he's wrong? Who cares? Tatis Jr. just turned 18, if he makes it, he's a long ways off. He is still ranked a lot lower than Law ranked Joey Gallo a couple of years ago, when Gallo was even more developed. Anytime anyone mentions his name in a trade with Texas, it isn't met with a lot of enthusiam. In the end, it's far more likely we will forget Fernando Tatis Jr. even exists in several years than we will be whining how could the Sox have given up on this guy.

It's always going to be insane, then reality kicks in. This past winter meetings was going to be crazy with trades. The free agents suck, everyone is available. Yet, if the White Sox didn't show up with Sale and Eaton, the only purposes the meetings held were a job fair and a rule 5 draft. I will believe it when I see it.

Wade and Butler blasted the rest of the team after the game. The both made it seem like they did their jobs, the rest of the team doesn't care if they win or lose. I don't know if their validity in the caring part, but saying you did your job the rest of the team didn't doesn't work well in team sports. The roster sucks. That is the problem.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 11:03 AM) If the Sox are playing better than expected, it should mean that more of those star performers will be moved at the deadline. Don't underestimate how brutal September can be from a W-L perspective. They also play a lot of teams that should be contenders the last month. It could get really ugly.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 10:32 AM) Ya, I highly doubt Soxfest has anything to do with anything on the trade market. I know there's been a time or two where they've announced a signing around Soxfest but I don't think it's going to slow things down or speed things up on the trade front. The only thing I could think of is nothing would probably happen during Soxfest. So from Friday afternoon until Monday morning, nothing will happen. A couple of years ago, they re-signed Beckham the day after Soxfest.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 07:00 AM) This is the first time a president has received an initial approval rating under 50% in the history of the poll, which dates back to Dwight Eisenhower's first term in 1953. Oh look, I am including a source: http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-first...resident-2017-1 Somewhere Kellyanne is reading your post saying, "but Hillary Clinton..."

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 24, 2017 -> 11:19 AM) That's not true at all. We have had a garbage system for years, during which we, as fans, have had to hype ourselves up about BS prospects. It's disappointing when pundits take the wind out of our sails by calling mediocre prospects mediocre, but look back over the past 5 years or so and make me a list of guys Keith Law hated but turned out to be really good. AFAIK, that list is basically Chris Sale, and only because he thought Sale was destined for the bullpen, which was a commonly held ad completely justifiable belief at the time. The Sox prospects have sucked, but Law was dead wrong about Sale in more ways than one, and it wasn't that he was just a reliever.

QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Jan 24, 2017 -> 08:30 AM) Trump brings his own cheering section. http://www.politicususa.com/2017/01/23/cbs...-cia-visit.html Spicer made it a point to point out the clapping. Trump also boasted how probably all the people in the room voted for him. This would be hysterical if it wasn't so sickening. And the millions upon millions who fall for this show is disgusting. .

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 08:25 PM) Or North Korea How the f*** did so many people vote for this clown? How are we only 4 days in? His boasting to politicians that there were 3 million to 5 million illegal votes, thus costing him the popular vote is like Kim Jong Il boasting he had 11 holes in one the first time he golfed.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 11:20 AM) I understood that. He's exaggerating what other people are arguing for and being sarcastic in the same post. The two arent mutually exclusive. Why would anyone even argue? Unless you know exactly what has been turned down, you have nothing to argue about. As far as I can tell, not one poster here has any idea what the White Sox have said no to yet. But there are huge problems. It's ridiculous.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 10:12 AM) The Astros are out because their GM said so? We have no idea who is out and who isn't. No. They are all out. The Sox are stuck with Jose Quintana. If anyone ranks pitchers and he doesn't get ranked in the top 5 or 10, whoever is ranking them is a fool. And if RH values him like a top 5 or 10, he is asking for way too much. I mean, he's only signed for 4 more years. Take what you can get, and be done with it. There is no time to spare. Pitchers and catchers report in a month.