Dick Allen

QUOTE (Soha @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 11:20 AM) They were eating that money whether he stayed here and continued losing games or was released. They minimized the damage by releasing him. Technically they would be eating the money whether they sent some money with a player or kept them around. So there really is no significant difference. If they can get something they really like by eating some salary, I doubt they say no. But why do it for a prospect you don't think will succeed?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 11:19 AM) Stephen Miller’s authoritarian declaration: Trump’s national security actions ‘will not be questioned’ "Will not be questioned." That is an incredible claim to executive authority -- and one we can expect to hear plenty more about. Trump has beaten around this bush plenty, yes. But Miller just came out and said it: that the White House doesn't recognize judges' authority to review things such as his travel ban. The guy looked and sounded absolutely nuts yesterday. The fight between Trump and McCain is pretty good as well. All I know is the mission McCain said was a failure would have been Benghazi II had Hillary been elected and the same thing happened. If Trump thinks McCain was a loser for getting captured, I wonder what he thinks about troops who get killed.

Stephen Miller did say yesterday Trump has accomplished more in 3 weeks that many Presidents have accomplished their entire term. They are nuts in the WH.

Trump settled his Trump U fraud case for $25 million. Something he said he would never do. Of course he said he doesn't have time now to engage in a long court case in which he clearly would win. A POTUS settling a fraud case. Crooked Donald. Are we sick of winning yet?

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 10:59 AM) They ate majority of Danks' $15 mill salary last season to release him so I assume they are open to eating salary to make a trade. They have eaten a lot of money lately. Keppinger, and a lot of $2 million to $3 million guys have been getting released the past several years. Nothing too major, but I don't think that is much of a concern. I don't think they want to eat $10 million for an average prospect. If the best deal on the table for Robertson is eating most of his money for an average prospect, you might as well roll the dice and see if there is a need during the season. At worst you get no prospect and eat the money, the odds on close to equal to not getting a good prospect and eating it anyway.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 10:48 AM) The White Sox do not eat money in order to get better prospects but are more then willing to deal prospects in return for other teams eating salary. Yet another serious flaw in the White Sox business model. What top prospect have the White Sox ever traded in exchange for eating salary?

For a guy who was popping off how much losing should hurt, DWade sure seemed to be having a good time watching yesterday's blowout. There is absolutely no reason for the lack of hustle back on defense. Even if you suck you can do that. Hoi ball sucks.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Feb 12, 2017 -> 12:58 PM) I disagree with this comment. Ilitch did everything he could to get the Tigers into position to get to and win the World Series. They had a very nice run for five or six years under him. Paid top dollar to get the best players and was aggressive in many facets of trying to get the best talent. Mark So you use spending money on Floyd Bannister against JR and praise Illitch for spending money and falling short, What did you think about Illitch between 1994-2005 when his teams were over 340 games under .500? BTW your guy Roland Hemond was at Soxfest looking and sounding well. I looked it up and he is 87 years old. You would never know it looking at him.

Stephen miller is scary. All these Trump people speak like they are programmed zombies.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Feb 11, 2017 -> 11:46 PM) That was his son. The sale to the father was turned down for some reasons that were a little nebulous at best. The owners and commissioner Bowie Kuhn felt that DeBartolo had "connections" to underworld characters, had gambling /interests, wasn't actually living in Chicago and couldn't be relied upon in their opinions. In fact the Galbraith family who owned the Pirates and George Steinbrenner had horse racing interests and owned race tracks. DeBartolo said he would move 20% of his business interests to Chicago and promised he would spend a certain amount of time in the city. That fell on deaf ears. Later after the Sox signed Floyd Bannister to what was considered a huge contract for it's time, Steinbrenner publicly said that he "regretted" not voting for DeBartolo. So the dad then used his resources to buy the 49'ers...and win a bunch of Super Bowls. Mark He already owned the 49ers. I know it is fun to think if he owned the Sox they would have about 20 titles by now, but that isn't necessarily true. He bought the 49ers, he didn't run the 49ers. His son did, and there was no indication his son would have run the White Sox or have any idea about baseball. The family was forced to sell the Penguins in 1991 due to financial issues. He died in 1994. The family still owns the 49ers. I don't think they are considered all that well run anymore. I guess I don't know why the 49ers run in the 80s would be all the proof you need the same thing would have happened to the White Sox if he owned the team, while the Bulls run in the 90s under JR ownership gets totally ignored. Overall titles, Debartolo 6, JR 7.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Feb 11, 2017 -> 10:06 AM) I presume you're kidding, right? Jerry Reinsdorf didn't save anything. He is the one who nearly destroyed a charter American League franchise with his blackmail threats to move the team to Florida in the 80s if the taxpayers of Illinois didn't build him a new stadium. Ever remember Bill Veeck indulging in anything remotely resembling such shameful behavior? No, because he WAS busy saving the franchise, saving it from moving to Seattle in 1976. Big difference, character-wise, at least publicly, between the two owners, and not in Reinsdorf's favor. The same Bill Veeck that wanted to sell to Marvin Davis and move the team to Denver?

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Feb 11, 2017 -> 09:36 AM) Could still be considered a lucky year if you see that the master plans of the front office didn't work particularly well for most of the years Reinsdorf owned the team. But for one brief shining year everything came together. Blind squirrel/acorn theory. I think ownership did its job that year providing the means for a winning roster. Anytime a team wins a WS or gets to a WS, you need some luck, but to call aseason lucky when the team was in first place every single day is crazy. That was a great team that only trailed when it was down 1-0 in the ALCS. Luck goes both ways. 2003 and 2004, 2006, I don't think you could say it was an ownership failure the team didn't make the playoffs.

QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 11, 2017 -> 09:11 AM) If Wieters goes back to baltimore in a weird signing, I wonder if we could get Caleb Joseph. The guy who set a record for plate appearances and having 0 RBI. How do you make 141 plate appearances in a season and not get 1 RBI?

What has Gar Forman ever done even before coming to the Bulls that would make someone think he would be a really great GM? He must really ass kiss the people with power who love to be ass kissed. I have worked with a few of those over the years,

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Feb 11, 2017 -> 08:44 AM) Like clockwork... Look at the Tigers between 1994 and 2005 and tell me how much better he was than JR again. 346 games below .500 in a 12 year stretch. Awesome. It only took 15 seasons under his ownership to win more than 85 games. If JR did that, he would have been proclaimed the worst owner in the history of people owning anything. The Tigers were over 200 games below .500 under his ownership. His first 19 seasons they make the playoffs 1 time, getting swept in the World Series. The White Sox are over 100 games over .500 under JR's ownership.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 11, 2017 -> 07:15 AM) Well kind of. Some of the voters just wanted something different to help them out in some miraculous way like that town in Wisconsin. The base you are referring to think the most incompetent executive branch, maybe in history, is the best ever. Mostly because they've wanted someone in that position who is as racist as they are. Or who are as scared as they are. But they are slowly finding out that their desires financially aren't quite as aligned with the administration as was promised during the campaign. And that part is going to suck for them. Yes. No need to worry about his voters in the red states. Just in the states Kellyanne can't stop mentioning. Once the coal miners and factory workers realize Trump can't turn back time, they won't tolerate the rest of his crap.

QUOTE (WBWSF @ Feb 11, 2017 -> 07:16 AM) The team is not going to sign anybody for any type of big money. The objective seems to have one of the lowest if not lowest payroll in MLB entering the 2018 season. I'm still hoping that this is JRs way of selling the team. It's alot easier to sell a team that has a low payroll with no long term big contracts on the books. That was the exact situation JR had when he bought the team from Veeck. They aren't going to sign anyone because of where they are, not a possible sale. The Marlins might get sold for $1.6 billion and the owe Stanton more money than the Sox will pay almost their entire team the next 3 years.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Feb 11, 2017 -> 12:49 AM) A super rich owner who spent every dollar to win a World Series, but people will still think JR was better because of one lucky year. One lucky year of never not being in first place and going 11-1 in the postseason. Close to unprecedented.

30+ year old catcher Rep is Scott Boras White Sox in rebuild Not going to happen

QUOTE (flavum @ Feb 10, 2017 -> 05:43 PM) Mike Ilitch died. Too bad. The rumor was he had colon cancer and had been in ill health for over a year. A lot of talk that his family will sell.

I didn't realize outright waivers are irrevocable.so if another team claimed Smith, the Sox couldn't have pulled him back. Either something is cooking or they were pretty certain he would make it through, or they didn't really care if another team claimed him.

QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 10, 2017 -> 03:08 PM) Yeah obviously with Bourjos and Soto we'll need the space and not sure I've paid enough attention before if they preemptively make space for probable major leaguers on minor league deals... but hope it means something more exciting than that. Exactly. Probably nothing, but except for a couple days in early December, this offseason has been brutal.

Could be a sign they need the space, or it could be convenience. They saw an opportunity to get him through, so they did. Maybe later in the spring someone needs a catcher and claims him. Eventually Soto will need a spot, assuming he makes the team.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 10, 2017 -> 02:43 PM) https://twitter.com/andrewmarchand/status/830150963226873856 @andrewmarchand Michael Kay just reported Charles Oakley is banned for life from the Garden. Doing him a favor now. If the Knicks are ever good again, the return of Oak to the Garden will be the feel good story.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 10, 2017 -> 01:12 PM) White House admits to Flynn lying. Pence is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ If you were a member of the Trump administration and got caught telling the truth, you would be a freak.