Dick Allen

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Sep 13, 2016 -> 09:28 PM) And people are fooling themselves if they think Sox fans will stay home next season if they start playing winning baseball in Sale's absence. Fans like yourself aren't going to change your behavior in terms of how many games you typically attend no matter how the Sox play if and when Sale is gone. Imagine what's going to happen if they start winning. Do you even remember what that feels like? And Sox fans, after watching all of the excitement around the Cubs and how much fun their fans are having will heartily embrace the next Sox winning team. It's only human nature. Now to just get the team back to winning ways to prove this all out! Yes they will. It isn't necessarily Salle not being here anymore, it is what his absence signals which is a rebuild and really not much of a chance at winning a WS, which according to you is not an exciting season. You have already told us that. Winning 99 games in 1983, not exciting. Winning 96 games in 1990, not exciting. Winning di ions in 1993,2000, 2008not exciting. Being in first place most of the season in 2012, not exciting , and attendance drop.

QUOTE (Scoots @ Sep 13, 2016 -> 09:01 PM) That's hilarious...and gross lol. I would hate to be the guys that clean the park after tonight because you know at least a few of those 1000+ dogs are going to have an "accident" that isn't properly taken care of. They hire a service to clean up after the pups. I used to bring my late dog Maggs. He loved it, especially the parade around the field. He pissed on the tarp. O was so proud,

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Sep 13, 2016 -> 08:59 PM) Makes total sense. Sale leaving wouldn't impact your behavior as a Sox fan. The game and team always bigger than any one player. You are fooling yourself if you think that is typical.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Sep 13, 2016 -> 08:27 PM) Not at all actually, thanks for asking. I'll go to the typical three games I make it to when I make my three typical visits to Chicago next summer. I can tell you that number won't be lower if Sale is, in fact, traded. Now how about you, Dick? More games next year or fewer if Sale is traded? Going to pull back on that season ticket package if they trade Sale? According to the thinking of some, that is pretty much the inevitable outcome. Probably around the same. I am not changing my package, they treat us like kings, and I love going to games.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Sep 13, 2016 -> 08:37 PM) We set the Guinness world record for dogs ar a sports events. But waiting for official number Does that include dogs on the roster?

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Sep 13, 2016 -> 08:17 PM) Not fewer? But what if Sale is traded? You said attendance will absolutely go down if he's not in a Sox uni next year, yet it's not going to change your behavior at all. A bit of a disconnect here, to say the least. I think we can conclude if you, a White Sox fan, won't go to fewer games than you did in this past brutal season if Sale is traded, neither will other Sox fans How will it differ for you? Remember, you can't tell if the season was exciting or not until after the World Series.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Sep 13, 2016 -> 08:18 PM) They drew 2.5 million in 2008. Enough of your 2008. No point to make there. They drew less than when they lost 90 games in 2007. You said WhiteSox fans come out for wins. Explain.

Not only that, but Whe you are playing a team in the race, you owe it to the league to play it to win, not see some AAA hack get some meaningless ABs.

People who have gone to White Sox home games have had a better chance of seeing their team win this year than all but 3 NL teams. So people who bail aren't basing it on games they attended.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Sep 13, 2016 -> 04:41 PM) You mean an ace Sale's age AND an ace with the type of team-friendly contract he has and the years left of control? Don't know if that example exists. Any old ace will do. The Sox fans want to trade,2 basically. All that,will do for you Thad, is even though they will do exactly what you want, it pretty much guarantees you a few more years of griping about Reinsdorf. Perfect for you

Can someone provide some examples of teams trading their ace and it translating to instant more success?

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Sep 13, 2016 -> 03:04 PM) 1990 and 2000 called and said "Hey, SS2K5! Check us out if you want to see how Sox fans respond, attendance-wise, to a new, young winning team! We will take your money any day of the week!" What did 2008 and 2012 call and say? And Sox fans love winners so much, in 2005, the year they never were not in first place, their attendance was almost league average. They had a 3 game home series in September that drew about 45k total. Nice.

QUOTE (shipps @ Sep 13, 2016 -> 09:22 AM) I have a cedar siding home and I have had a long running issue of birds pecking holes into the siding. It started on one side of the house. I patched it up and they came back leaving more holes for me to patch. I then put one of them toy hawks in the shrub to scare them away. That didnt really work because they still poked holes just not as frequently. Now they have graduated to the other side of the house and are putting holes there. I googled how to handle this issue but everything seems to be just using scare tactics which the birds dont seem to react to. Do any of you guys have any experience with this? What the hell can I do before they eat my house? Move.

So depending on the day, the White Sox either are not worthy of Chris Sale's services, or Sale is such an embarrassing hot head, he needs to be dealt away.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Sep 13, 2016 -> 09:52 AM) Even if he could keep his bat going... can you trust his defense? Would you be comfortable with him at DH. I don't think so. No, you can't trust his defense. And really, you can't trust his offense, but there is always the possiblility he becomes a middle of the line up bat. It's against the odds, but if he did, there would be no sympathy for the White Sox for letting him walk. The thing with Avi is you watch him, you see him hit the ball hard, you see him come up big in the clutch, you see him run hard and fast to 1B just about every time. You see his huge boday. You hear the sound of the ball off his bat. You think the Sox really have something. Then you look at his barely .700, usually a little below OPS, and think, nevermind. He probably has a better shot at being someone who can hit after the start he has had than most, but I think they will let him go unless he goes Jose Abreu the next couple of weeks.

Avi in his last 35 games is .302/.344/.526. If he finishes the season strong, what happens next? Is he still a non tender?

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Sep 13, 2016 -> 08:31 AM) Maybe not exactly as greg said but go back a year or year and a half and you will see many here deriding Saladino much the same way Carlos Sanchez is now. Yes. In the offseason, the thought of Saladino at SS really upset a few. OTOH, he has been really hot lately, so he probably is a bit more popular at the moment than he should be. He's a valuable guy to have around though, for sure.

Saladino has played every position but catcher and pitcher this year. I did read last year, they were reluctant to use him in the OF due to his TJ surgery. Robin said yesterday he is more valuable moving around than playing one position.

QUOTE (Tony @ Sep 11, 2016 -> 03:47 PM) That's great, but Trump was at the same event, is older, and was fine. Again, the GOP has been pushing this narrative for months, it's garbage, but now they have a video to run the next 60 days. It's not good. The video is going to be a problem. I was at a Rush show in Rotterdam a few years ago, and my wife, who may be the healthiest person I know, collapsed during the encore. It looked just like when Hillary was dropping. I was scared to death. I thought she was dying. I grabbed her, and carried her out for help. We went into a room backstage. She was overheated and dehydrated, we were in general admission near the stage, and she is only 5'2". We always figured it was a lack of air as she was surrounded by taller people. But 10 minutes later she was fine, and there were never any other episodes. It looks a lot worse than it was. But with the narrative, this is one of the best things that could happen for Trump.

Don't know what was said, but apparently Dan Hampton blasted the Bears coaching staff after the game.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Sep 11, 2016 -> 01:33 PM) Shocked he's playing after jamming his wrist last night. He's a gamer, but it's idiotic of Robin to not give him a day off. Yrp. I am sure the medical staff didn't clear him, but to in doesn't care. Why is every player supposed to be treated like a p****? Treat hm like thy are made of glass, an they will be. Guys have o be able to play tired and in pain.

That one didn't need the wind

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Sep 10, 2016 -> 07:07 PM) Why does one of our biggest run producers not know to NOT bunt in a RISP situation? Even though his RISP numbers suck this year that's no excuse. The 3B was playing way back. If he got it another step away from the mound he would have had an easy hit.

QUOTE (Insp @ Sep 10, 2016 -> 06:56 PM) More proof that Ventura refuses to learn from his mistakes. He was bunting for a hit. That wasn't called from the bench

Hosmer hits a pop up that goes 420 in the wind. 2-0. We can probably use some 420 with Shields on the mound and the wind howling straight out.