Dick Allen

QUOTE (GhostofDickeyKerr @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 09:26 PM) Glad you're arguing the important points, as per usual. Solid post. Post more often.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 09:02 PM) Okay Lawrence Halomes Barojas. There is a difference between a typo and not getting names right. Especially when you find it inexcusable for others to get names wrong.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 08:54 PM) Except for Erik Johnson, yeah. Hahn went into desperation mode because of the early hot start. Danks would probably be putting up the same numbers and quietly exiting if they went out 10-23, or even retired before the end of the season. If you add Javy Guerra, Ian Desmond and a decent veteran reliever and part time catcher to this roster, it's a very competitive team. Why they have stuck with Matt Albers this long after running off Danks, Latos and Rollins is completely beyond me. It is Junior Guerra. For someone who still give KW crap for Berry/Barry you would think you would be better with names. He is also on the DL

Preller is awesome. He is paying Shields more than Hahn.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 08:48 PM) That makes zero sense when Schneider has led MLB training staffs in recent years in terms of avoiding DL stints. If injuries to guys like Coats, Kevan Smith, Tilson, Avi Garcia, Lawrie, Petricka and Putnam are lethal...you just have zero quality depth. Gonzalez and Rodon, same thing. If anything, the Austin Jackson injury hurt the most because that forced a lousy bat AND defender into the lineup. Avila simply exposed Navarro. Every contending team in the AL Central has gone through worse. Even the Tigers lost JD Martinez for almost three months. And if the team actually had anything to play for, you wouldn't see so many guys missing time imo. You just mentioned 11injuries It is a huge number on a team that is banking on leading the league in healh, and have zero depth.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 08:42 PM) and a pen costing them games......... Petricka and Putnam being hurt didn't help. And if they were contending they probably pick up a guy like Rodney during the season. But I do agree, a stellar pen is key to winning.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 08:39 PM) I have outfield seats for Shields next start vs Seattle. Should be interesting Bring a mitt. They are coming out there pretty quickly.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 08:35 PM) They both are god awful Maybe. KW at least won once. You would think the law of averages would catch up to the Sox at some point. Something has to work out. But they do need to be all in if they are going for it. The hoping 3 or 4 bargains work out, nobody gets hurt, and everyone else has a big year hope needs to end, and something more realistic needs to take its placeThe injuries hurt them and I know some teams are missing better players but the Sox have no depth so their injuries result in guys who should hardly ever play getting a lot of play.

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 08:31 PM) So bottom five is good enough? Who said that? But calling them the most inept is hyperbole.would you trade Hahn and kW for Stewart and LaRussa?

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 08:30 PM) Did he? Who f***ing cares? Releasimg him does nothing. You just have to hope he shows up in AZ next spring with better command, and he could maybe be decent.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 08:29 PM) It really might be the most inept front office in baseball right now. Nothing they have done during this season has made sense. If you were a DBacks fan I think you would say the same thing.

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 05:41 PM) Lawrie back in the Barons lineup according to Hayes. That is good. After I heard about it on the broadcast, I looked online. Stone made it sound like amputation was the probable outcome. The others said it would set him back a couple of days.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 18, 2016 -> 10:02 PM) I didn't want to start a new thread unless I could do a poll within a thread. But PLEASE answer this. Congratulations, Democrats. I concede and Hillary Rodham Clinton is our next President against my wishes. However, please answer this question in poll format. Q-After eight years, how will we feel about Hillary's Presidency? a.) Great. She will be the best since Kennedy. Or best since her husband. b.) Awful. She will be a fricking disaster. c.) Same ol same ol. Our country will continue to flounder, the economy will continue to be piss poor and the world will remain very dangerous. My vote: b. Just like with Obama, the unemployment rate will be lower than the Republican candidates said they would get it down to, the GDP will be higher than the goal the Republican candidates will have at election time, gas prices will be lower that what the Republican candidates will say under their leadership they will get it down to, and Hillary will be deemed a total disaster, maybe the worst president ever, more of the same. Just like Obama who beat all of Mitt's targets. Trump is the candidate of truth. He has turned the corner. Just ignore the lies he told in his speech proclaiming that.

Who knows. Kerry Wood used to walk everybody. No one seems to hit Hansen at all even when he was demoted in college. I would suspect that to continue as he goes up the chain. Just have enough command to eat some innings.

I just hope Hawk is OK health wise. I love the Hawk, but cutting back might be what is best for him, and the two different styles aren't bad either. I don't have a problem with Jason. It is interesting you know exactly how the game is going when Hawk is around just by the tone, but with Jason it can be joking and laughing when the Sox are down 5-2 in the 9th. It doesn't bother me. It's a game, he might give me some perspective even if it is just for a little while that a White Sox loss shouldn't ruin my day. A Jose Abreu error shouldn't make me want to bash in my TV.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 10:40 AM) Most objective observers consider him a 1B in the same way Frank Thomas was one...it's one of the main reasons he's been at negative overall value for most of the season, and why his trade value is down dramatically. He has to be an 850-875 ops hitter to justify that below average defensive. And Semien has almost doubled Abreu in homers from a "defense first" position, although the overall offensive output from SS has improved dramatically over the last two years due to the injection of young talent at that position around the majors. A trade that had to be made. Do I have to dig up your post again Donald? Or were you being sarcastic? I am just pointing out error totals don't tell the entire story. I know Abreu is pretty brutal at 1B.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 10:28 AM) Interesting. Although your math is off enough that I'm noting it, it's provocative to note that his error numbers have gone down at the same time as his total defense metrics gotten worse. Given the dropoff with the bat also, left wondering if maybe there isn't a more specific physical issue bothering him all year that he's just playing through. Your math is off as well. Not quite 50% with Abreu but he has played 1B as much as he did all of last season. Semien still has some games to go to reach last years amount. Semien's defensive metrics were down a week or so ago as well. Now they are up barely. I will now note you take total errors as a huge indicator of defensive prowess, as I remember how generous the official scorer in Oakland was to Marcus the first series of the year.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 10:35 AM) A league average SS or better than average 2b is worth a lot more than a short reliever unless that reliever is close to elite (Miller, Herrera, Betances, etc.) That was a trade that had to be made according to you. Now you can't even let it go. Change your name to Trump.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 09:51 AM) Well, another person who hasn't noticed that Semien has cut his error total in half. So has Jose Abreu.

55 innings 37 hits 12 walks 61 strikeouts 2.13 ERA. 0.89 WHIP Boy does Nate Jomes suck.

Supposedly Larry Halomes is supposed to discuss what he calls fairly ugly news about the White Sox on the Score any minute now.

Almost 13k in attendance. Maybe the Indians have to move.

QUOTE (shipps @ Aug 18, 2016 -> 04:08 PM) Honestly though, it still doesnt validate how DA lumps a few peoples opinion to cover the span of the entire board population. He does this often. You just did it to but I am not going to make it seem like there are a bunch of posters that do that. I wrote some which is accurate. You are taking that as lumping many. But that isn't what I wrote or meant.

QUOTE (shipps @ Aug 18, 2016 -> 03:25 PM) You must have put him up to this nonsense. I wish I had that influence. Not only Fulmer but much, much more.

QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Aug 18, 2016 -> 03:20 PM) I was surprised to see how unbalanced his delivery was on the mound and his inability to locate pitches. He seems like a thrower more than a pitcher. As far as "bringing him up early" that is such nonsense. If he hasn't figured it out by now that may never happen for him. On the contrary, bringing him provided valuable information to management. They now know that they cannot rely on Fulmer being part of the Sox rotation next season or maybe ever. I'm very disappointed that the Sox took this kid in the first round last year. It looks like another terrible Draft pick. Instead of Rodon and Fulmer the Sox could have picked two position players that could have had a positive and immediate impact on this team. If Collins can't catch, they may have blown this year's first round pick as well. Uh, Shipps?