Dick Allen

What seems like a great idea, sometimes doesn't work out that way. If the Sox signed Panda, the 3rd base problem would be considered solved. Last year, Gillaspie had a better OPS, but that had to be an outlier. Gillaspie hasn't been good offensively, but look: Gillaspie OPS .682 Panda OPS .688 You would think Panda would get better, but, many here are saying the White Sox hitters are what they are, so why wouldn't that apply to all teams? Panda is a better fielding $100 million Conor Gillaspie.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jun 2, 2015 -> 07:20 AM) Maybe KW had more to his message. By saying this team should compete for the playoffs, he could be laying the groundwork for changes. If the team fails, then changes would have to happen. At thst point Hahn can say despite the players not living up to expectations, we are forced to replace the manager. Maybe the FO decided they need to start dropping hints that a change is coming so the RV separation is less of a media circus than the Bulls are facing. If that were the case, I doubt he would have said if this group doesn't work out the mix of players will have to be changed, not the staff.

Buster posted Giancarlo Stanton has 41 plate appearances where the last pitch was on the lower outside third of the strike zone. In those appearances he is 0-41 with 24 ks.

This was from March and was discussed then. KW said he enjoys having the final say Hahn does the day to day stuff KW used to do, now KW still has veto power. Rick Hahn was still a genius this winter for all the moves when this came out. It wasn't until the Sox lost games when KW's fingerprints were all over the moves and the Sox were deemed doomed for years. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0321-story.html

KW had a very similar imterview a few weeks ago.

Get paid more and win the East with LeBron. Get paid less and bow out in round 2 with DRose, if healthy. Pretty easy answer for Love.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 04:55 PM) I assume then he's stating that he and rick will resign at the end of the season if the players can't get it done since they did such a poor job of choosing those players right? Otherwise he's throwing others under the bus to protect himself. Wow.

The Robin haters will be unhappy. KW said if these players can't get it done, they need to change the mix of players not staff.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 02:09 PM) southsider2k5 i really don't have no education in advance stats. so i will give way to both of yous. however i really don't necessary agree. btw, he played 26 games at 2nd last yr. how was his defensive metrics ??? just asking. His UZR/150 would be interpreted as.............awful. Small sample size though.

Semien played a little bit of second with the Sox, and wasn't very good. He isn't a good defender. Maybe some day, but there is a reason the Sox wanted him to work in the OF a bit, and it wasn't because he was a standout defensive infielder.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 12:42 PM) Doesn't this mean that the Brewers have significantly improved? They are 10-16. That's still not good. Looks like the losing isn't on the manager. You can think the .280 winning pct. would have continued with the old manager, but you would more than likely be wrong.

The Brewers and Marlins had a combined .365 winning percentage when they fired their managers. Their new managers have a combined .359 winning percentage.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 10:38 AM) Terrence Gore .242/.349/.276 - in the minor leagues Plus some of the guys he passed on with the high picks. He could have a rotation right now that featured Baumgarner, Sale, Wacha and Jose Fernandez. With Mike Trout patrolling CF.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ May 26, 2015 -> 02:47 PM) Jerry Manual was the Grim Reaper in charge of corpseball. He was the meddler. People hated how he always switched up the line up. Now they complain if the line up isn't switch up all the time.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 10:13 AM) Then we should subtract the 2008 White Sox playoff appearance because we got lucky that Hahn's son chose heads over tails? You didn't answer the question, of course. Should Luhnow and Theo Epstein both be fired because of the record of the Astros and Cubs for the last five seasons prior to this one? The fact of the matter is that the last time the Royals had a playoff appearance was 29 years prior to that...the White Sox had a "playoff caliber" (and Top 10-12 MLB payroll) team as recently as 2012, and then proceeded to one of the worst two-year performance records in team history to follow that up. Yet in the middle of that stretch you just brought up, the team president of the Royals gave Moore a contract extension. Is JR about to give one to Rick Hahn and we just don't know about it? Sal Perez, Yordano Ventura and K.Herrera, FA Latin American signings (Rene Francisco, came over from Braves) Jarrod Dyson, 50th round Danny Duffy, 3rd round Greg Holland, 10th round Terrance Gore, 20th round Fun with numbers John Danks ERA 4.81 Danny Duffy ERA 5.87 Jerrod Dyson .219/.254/.297 awesome And of course in his 8 full seasons as a GM his teams have finished ahead of the White Sox , a team led by buffoons, twice.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 10:13 AM) Then we should subtract the 2008 White Sox playoff appearance because we got lucky that Hahn's son chose heads over tails? You didn't answer the question, of course. Should Luhnow and Theo Epstein both be fired because of the record of the Astros and Cubs for the last five seasons prior to this one? The fact of the matter is that the last time the Royals had a playoff appearance was 29 years prior to that...the White Sox had a "playoff caliber" (and Top 10-12 MLB payroll) team as recently as 2012, and then proceeded to one of the worst two-year performance records in team history to follow that up. Yet in the middle of that stretch you just brought up, the team president of the Royals gave Moore a contract extension. Is JR about to give one to Rick Hahn and we just don't know about it? I didn't answer the question because no question was asked. Sigh. And it isn't my place to say if Theo should be fired, but I would bet if the Cubs lost 90 + 6 years in a row, there would be plenty of calls for his head. And if Hahn or KW lost 90 games plus 6 years in a row, you would be calling for their head. And regarding 2008, last I checked, KW hasn't written a book about how to judge players based off his success that season. But if Dayton Moore can have 6 90+ losing seasons in a row but is still a baseball genius in your mind, maybe you should cool it on all your posts about every White Sox employee needing to be replaced. Look at some of the players he passed on with these high picks. If it was KW doing it or the White Sox, you would be complaining like crazy. Since it is KC, he is doing everything right.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 06:46 AM) It's a bad sign. Run differential is generally the best indicator of future performance and it tends to correct itself as the season plays out. Not too worried. Their run differential is a little out of whack from that 5 game disaster of a road trip where they were -29. The 1990 White Sox were +7. If the players start hitting and pitching like they are supposed to, this is a good team.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 09:44 AM) By this same definition, Theo Epstein and Jeffrey Luhnow with the Astros should both be fired. They've done nothing differently than build the best farm system in baseball, something Moore and the Royals did 5 years ago. Basically, the only players that the Royals/Moore inherited were Alex Gordon and Billy Butler. (Not to mention the fact that they had to go through a complete rebuilding process of Alex Gordon because of the position change to LF, mostly through the help of former White Sox OF Rusty Kuntz). Then you had Zach Greinke (who they traded for Alcides Escobar and Lorenzo Cain). And that was basically it. Ever heard of Jeff Austin, Kyle Snyder, Mike Stodolka, Colt Griffin and Chris Lubanski? All of them were Top 10 draft picks from previous GM's that flopped. He also has had 6 top 8 picks as a GM. And Moore totally flopped for 6 straight 90 loss seasons. Even the 2014 White Sox didn't lose 90 games and think how horrible you think they are now and how horrible you have pegged their future. The FACT is the Royals got lucky winning the WC game, now they are some sort of model. Bubba Starling says hi.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 09:42 AM) Good. Anyone think Robin should mess around with the order a bit this series? No. They are starting to hit, and really haven't had their full line up in for a little bit with Avi being out, then Abreu.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 09:31 AM) Art Stewart was responsible for Bo Jackson. My mistake. Goldis drafted Bo for California in 1985. He didn't sign.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 08:52 AM) exactly, first Himes, who had a great eye on talent, then Schuler and then Williams. Al Goldis was the scouting director, and he has had a nice record drafting players. Not just his brief stint with the White Sox which got him McDowell, Ventura, Thomas, Fernandez, he also drafted Durham, signed Magglio. When he went to the Cubs, Kerry Wood. I think he was with KC when the got Bo. Was with the Angels when the drafted Devon White and Dante Bichette, and was instrumental in the Sox acquiring Roberto Hernandez as an Angels farmhand for junk. He and Himes were about as successful a duo as can be with the most limited budget in baseball. The 1990 Sox won 94 or 95 games with the lowest payroll in baseball. I think Adam LaRoche alone makes more money this year than that team made total.

Dayton Moore author. If KW wrote a book on how to judge players, many here would laugh. Yet, Dayton Moore's Royals made the WC last year now he's a genius. He has been KC's GM since June of 2006. The Royals record: 2007 69-93 2008 75-87 2009 65-97 2010 67-95 2011 71-91 2012 72-90 2013 86-76 2014 89-73 Not really all that impressive. First 6 full seasons lost 90 + each time.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ May 31, 2015 -> 07:00 PM) I have never walked around the southside so I am not sure how far those places are from the stadium and if it is safe to walk in those areas to and from the stadium at night Its nothing to worry about. Safer than Wrigley during the day. Cork and Kerry is probably the closest, about 2 blocks north. Schallers is on Halsted about 4 blocks west and a block or 2 south. If you are early enough they actually have a lot to park in. Shinocks is a couple blocjpks east and closer to the park than Schallers.

Or you could park a little closer by Shinnocks or the place that used to be jimbo's and ask them for a parking pass, and park on the street.

QUOTE (Jake @ May 31, 2015 -> 06:47 PM) It wasn't the most impressive complete game shutout ever, but he really did pitch a nice ballgame. If he pitched like this again, he'd probably give up a couple of runs. If he had bad luck, he could have given up 3 or 4. Whatever his FIP or XFIP was today doesn't matter. 6-0 is all that matters, and really it might be the best all around game the team has played this season. 4-4 on this trip without Abreu for 2 1/2 games. With Robertson blowing 2 saves including losing a lay up,, now with Samardjiza, Sale and Rodon pitching against Texas, with a bullpen totally rested. I don't think many if any thought this wiuld be possible a week ago.