Dick Allen

The Brewers and Marlins had a combined .365 winning percentage when they fired their managers. Their new managers have a combined .359 winning percentage.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 10:38 AM) Terrence Gore .242/.349/.276 - in the minor leagues Plus some of the guys he passed on with the high picks. He could have a rotation right now that featured Baumgarner, Sale, Wacha and Jose Fernandez. With Mike Trout patrolling CF.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ May 26, 2015 -> 02:47 PM) Jerry Manual was the Grim Reaper in charge of corpseball. He was the meddler. People hated how he always switched up the line up. Now they complain if the line up isn't switch up all the time.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 10:13 AM) Then we should subtract the 2008 White Sox playoff appearance because we got lucky that Hahn's son chose heads over tails? You didn't answer the question, of course. Should Luhnow and Theo Epstein both be fired because of the record of the Astros and Cubs for the last five seasons prior to this one? The fact of the matter is that the last time the Royals had a playoff appearance was 29 years prior to that...the White Sox had a "playoff caliber" (and Top 10-12 MLB payroll) team as recently as 2012, and then proceeded to one of the worst two-year performance records in team history to follow that up. Yet in the middle of that stretch you just brought up, the team president of the Royals gave Moore a contract extension. Is JR about to give one to Rick Hahn and we just don't know about it? Sal Perez, Yordano Ventura and K.Herrera, FA Latin American signings (Rene Francisco, came over from Braves) Jarrod Dyson, 50th round Danny Duffy, 3rd round Greg Holland, 10th round Terrance Gore, 20th round Fun with numbers John Danks ERA 4.81 Danny Duffy ERA 5.87 Jerrod Dyson .219/.254/.297 awesome And of course in his 8 full seasons as a GM his teams have finished ahead of the White Sox , a team led by buffoons, twice.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 10:13 AM) Then we should subtract the 2008 White Sox playoff appearance because we got lucky that Hahn's son chose heads over tails? You didn't answer the question, of course. Should Luhnow and Theo Epstein both be fired because of the record of the Astros and Cubs for the last five seasons prior to this one? The fact of the matter is that the last time the Royals had a playoff appearance was 29 years prior to that...the White Sox had a "playoff caliber" (and Top 10-12 MLB payroll) team as recently as 2012, and then proceeded to one of the worst two-year performance records in team history to follow that up. Yet in the middle of that stretch you just brought up, the team president of the Royals gave Moore a contract extension. Is JR about to give one to Rick Hahn and we just don't know about it? I didn't answer the question because no question was asked. Sigh. And it isn't my place to say if Theo should be fired, but I would bet if the Cubs lost 90 + 6 years in a row, there would be plenty of calls for his head. And if Hahn or KW lost 90 games plus 6 years in a row, you would be calling for their head. And regarding 2008, last I checked, KW hasn't written a book about how to judge players based off his success that season. But if Dayton Moore can have 6 90+ losing seasons in a row but is still a baseball genius in your mind, maybe you should cool it on all your posts about every White Sox employee needing to be replaced. Look at some of the players he passed on with these high picks. If it was KW doing it or the White Sox, you would be complaining like crazy. Since it is KC, he is doing everything right.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 06:46 AM) It's a bad sign. Run differential is generally the best indicator of future performance and it tends to correct itself as the season plays out. Not too worried. Their run differential is a little out of whack from that 5 game disaster of a road trip where they were -29. The 1990 White Sox were +7. If the players start hitting and pitching like they are supposed to, this is a good team.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 09:44 AM) By this same definition, Theo Epstein and Jeffrey Luhnow with the Astros should both be fired. They've done nothing differently than build the best farm system in baseball, something Moore and the Royals did 5 years ago. Basically, the only players that the Royals/Moore inherited were Alex Gordon and Billy Butler. (Not to mention the fact that they had to go through a complete rebuilding process of Alex Gordon because of the position change to LF, mostly through the help of former White Sox OF Rusty Kuntz). Then you had Zach Greinke (who they traded for Alcides Escobar and Lorenzo Cain). And that was basically it. Ever heard of Jeff Austin, Kyle Snyder, Mike Stodolka, Colt Griffin and Chris Lubanski? All of them were Top 10 draft picks from previous GM's that flopped. He also has had 6 top 8 picks as a GM. And Moore totally flopped for 6 straight 90 loss seasons. Even the 2014 White Sox didn't lose 90 games and think how horrible you think they are now and how horrible you have pegged their future. The FACT is the Royals got lucky winning the WC game, now they are some sort of model. Bubba Starling says hi.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 09:42 AM) Good. Anyone think Robin should mess around with the order a bit this series? No. They are starting to hit, and really haven't had their full line up in for a little bit with Avi being out, then Abreu.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 09:31 AM) Art Stewart was responsible for Bo Jackson. My mistake. Goldis drafted Bo for California in 1985. He didn't sign.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 1, 2015 -> 08:52 AM) exactly, first Himes, who had a great eye on talent, then Schuler and then Williams. Al Goldis was the scouting director, and he has had a nice record drafting players. Not just his brief stint with the White Sox which got him McDowell, Ventura, Thomas, Fernandez, he also drafted Durham, signed Magglio. When he went to the Cubs, Kerry Wood. I think he was with KC when the got Bo. Was with the Angels when the drafted Devon White and Dante Bichette, and was instrumental in the Sox acquiring Roberto Hernandez as an Angels farmhand for junk. He and Himes were about as successful a duo as can be with the most limited budget in baseball. The 1990 Sox won 94 or 95 games with the lowest payroll in baseball. I think Adam LaRoche alone makes more money this year than that team made total.

Dayton Moore author. If KW wrote a book on how to judge players, many here would laugh. Yet, Dayton Moore's Royals made the WC last year now he's a genius. He has been KC's GM since June of 2006. The Royals record: 2007 69-93 2008 75-87 2009 65-97 2010 67-95 2011 71-91 2012 72-90 2013 86-76 2014 89-73 Not really all that impressive. First 6 full seasons lost 90 + each time.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ May 31, 2015 -> 07:00 PM) I have never walked around the southside so I am not sure how far those places are from the stadium and if it is safe to walk in those areas to and from the stadium at night Its nothing to worry about. Safer than Wrigley during the day. Cork and Kerry is probably the closest, about 2 blocks north. Schallers is on Halsted about 4 blocks west and a block or 2 south. If you are early enough they actually have a lot to park in. Shinocks is a couple blocjpks east and closer to the park than Schallers.

Or you could park a little closer by Shinnocks or the place that used to be jimbo's and ask them for a parking pass, and park on the street.

QUOTE (Jake @ May 31, 2015 -> 06:47 PM) It wasn't the most impressive complete game shutout ever, but he really did pitch a nice ballgame. If he pitched like this again, he'd probably give up a couple of runs. If he had bad luck, he could have given up 3 or 4. Whatever his FIP or XFIP was today doesn't matter. 6-0 is all that matters, and really it might be the best all around game the team has played this season. 4-4 on this trip without Abreu for 2 1/2 games. With Robertson blowing 2 saves including losing a lay up,, now with Samardjiza, Sale and Rodon pitching against Texas, with a bullpen totally rested. I don't think many if any thought this wiuld be possible a week ago.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 31, 2015 -> 06:23 PM) Comment was directed to those who cannot understand why everyone does not love Danks. Yes he got the win good for him. I love it when he starts and gets bombed the Danks lovers are nowhere to be found, he gets a win then guys are negative for not kissing his ass. So you love when Danks gets bombed. No one said kiss his ass. But you could acknowledge he pitched pretty well today, and the team hit pretty well today, and they ran the bases pretty well today, and they played defense pretty well today instead you want to focus on Danks will never do that again. He was just lucky.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 31, 2015 -> 05:37 PM) I like what Rotoworld had to say for all the Danks lovers today. John Danks pitched a complete game shutout in Sunday's 6-0 win over the Astros. Gather 'round children, there's a tale to be told here. We might not see John Danks' line against the Astros again this season. Danks allowed 10 hits--including five for extra bases--without letting a run score. The southpaw also struck out six while walking just one. He ended the game the way he lived it: By allowing a double to Evan Gattis and walking Chris Carter before magically escaping trouble. While Danks and his owners will certainly take the win here, we're going to wager that the next time he allows 10 hits, the scoreboard isn't going to be filled up with zeroes. Sox win 6-0. Danks wins goes 9 saves the bullpen and you still have to look for a negative? Can't you just enjoy the win? The team played great today.

Twins all alone in 1st place.

QUOTE (raBBit @ May 31, 2015 -> 03:59 PM) There's still reason to be pissed about the allocation of money on the bench. If you were going to sign Beckham to take Bonifacio's principal role then why sign Bonifacio? I'd rather be able to use those funds elsewhere than waste it on one or the other. There were suggestions for players that would have been worse, at least until this point. While many complain about Danks and Noesi, what if they signed Masterson? . It is a very long season. I think Bonifacio's role will grow.

Bad baserunning again. It isn't just the White Sox.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 31, 2015 -> 02:42 PM) I have started counting the number of times Hawk talks over Stone during the game. It's usually at least once per inning. Stone is too nice of a guy to stop him. Hawk needs to go, ASAP. The reality is Hawk is a much nicer person than Stone.

Dumb baserunning. Great relay.

Out

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 31, 2015 -> 01:23 PM) He is missing this road trip due to having a "minor operation" that they haven't elaborated on. Barring setbacks or any other news we expect him back when they get back to Chicago at last update. Chuck Swirsky, bulls radio guy, is subbing on this road trip. Eye surgery.

QUOTE (raBBit @ May 31, 2015 -> 12:34 PM) Channeling my inner Dick Allen, the Sox lineup in the 2008 playoffs featured zero players the White Sox drafted. Alexei was the only player that had played only for the Sox. I read something yesterday where they are crying in Boston hoping this new guy they called up is goodbecause it has been since 2007 they have brought up a sarting pitcher that has been good for them. And that includes years with the great Theo in charge.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 31, 2015 -> 10:15 AM) The irony is that being mediocre year after year for a decade is much worse than rebuilding. The issue isn't rebuilding...it's finding someone we can actually trust to develop young players, especially position players. How can we rebuild when we can't even successfully produce one player over a full decade...unless you want to "credit" someone for Gordon Beckham? Or Marcus Semien...but would Marcus have a 750-800 ops if still around? Doubtful. It's not about being impatient with young players and giving them time to develop. It's about being stuck with players like Beckham and Flowers year after year...players who don't improve and often regress over time. If Carlos Sanchez or Conor Gillaspie had the ability to be Top Ten players at their position (like a Joe Crede)...sure, but they max out at 15-18 and that's absolute ceiling if everything goes perfectly like with Conor last year. More than likely, they're botton third guys and you can only have 2-3 in your line-up like that, not 5-6. Obviously, that's counting on Eaton and Avi, and the jury's still out on those two. If the White Sox fans had Bryant, Russell, Soler, Baez and Schwarber to cheer for...at least they would be excited like Sox fans when Ventura, Sosa, One Dog and Thomas came up...or later when Durham, Magglio, C-Lee, Cameron/Konerko, Singleton, Rowand and Crede debuted. People here couldn't wait for AJ to leave. Flowers defense alone was going to make him more valuable than AJ ever was. People loved Sanchez, and giving him 2 weeks of AB befor pulling the plug is silly. Just like the dump Alexei movement. Call Tim Anderson up this year or the frist couple of months of next, he will be seen as a guy who cannot hit or field.