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QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 07:40 AM) What your wife thinks the term redskin means is, with all due respect, irrelevant to this argument. What do the people who are offended by the term - you know Native Americans - think about this? Clearly enough of them are offended that a movement to change the team name has been in place since 1971, informally, and 1988 formally. I don't understand why you are turning a blind eye to that fact... Let me ask you this...when have you ever heard so many white academics taking up a cause that was important to American Indians? That's why this is frustrating to me, anyways. It's hypocrisy. Where were all these white people when American Indians were fighting for more tangible or substantive rights/improved treatment? You don't hear s*** from white people then. But all the sudden when it's time to debate something which requires no effort other than opening up your big mouth or typing away on the internet, the white people all run to the side of the American Indian! "We are brothers in a united cause!" So I don't think people are turning a blind eye to what the American Indians are saying....they are turning a blind eye to what white academic guy on the internet is saying. Because it's f***ing hollow.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 10:03 PM) Someday they are going to finally change the name and we can get on with proper respect to the American Indian. I love the fact many newspapers and announcers won't use Redskins. They only will put "the team from Washington." I'm not offended by Ditka. It's neat he is ripping the PC police, but he's wrong here. You can't call a team Redskins. In fact, I'd make the Cleveland Indians change, too. WTF? Yeah, and change the Cowboys too!

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 07:37 PM) But that continues the mistaken assumption that one precludes the other, that there is some finite amount of "care" and that if I think that racist name should changed, it means I have to take some care points from another category. Some of them obviously care enough to organize against it. A majority find it offensive. There are obviously more important issues, and no one has said otherwise. That more important issues exist isn't an excuse to do nothing about an issue that is easily fixable. All that has to happen is for Snyder to stop being am asshole, and that's more likely if people would stop making weak excuses for racial slurs. Why are you putting AmerIndians in scare quotes? If my posts are intellectual dick measuring, what does that make the posts of people defending the use of racial slurs? Hmmm, I forgot that one...scare quotes (I almost put scare quotes around the phrase scare quotes)... Here is the issue, SS, at least as I see it from my little perch out in the desert...you are incredibly bright, and you make me think about a lot of things in a different way. For that, you deserve to be complimented. HOWEVER, it appears that you read your political commentators/editorialists and latch onto an issue. You do a good amount of research so you can educate yourself on all the proper terminology and the various arguments for and against an issue. This is all admirable. But then you come over here and set your trap, waiting for someone a little less left or bleeding than you, and you pounce! You do so in a way so as to appear to be thumbing your nose at the rest of us (with the possible exception of your crew of bleeding hearts), as if you have always been an avid supporter of the plight of the Indians/Native Americans/AmerIndians/Whatever someone decides they would prefer to be called, and that rest of us are not only ignorant, but also complicit in conspiring against these poor people from the day we exited the womb. And our direct ancestors were even more complicit! Then you spend the rest of the time this debate ensues repeating this with new victims until we all get tired of it and go back to talking about horrific White Sox baseball. Then we never hear anything about other "care points" you expend on the plight of these folks again. It's not like you come back a month later with pictures of you volunteering at the nearest AmerIndian reservation or in the ghetto handing out foodstuffs. Obviously, some people have to educate others on the inequality and oppression, and perhaps you view that as your role. I'm just telling you I don't think you come off in a particularly comforting light when doing so. I do learn quite a bit from you though, so for that I am thankful. But the above is why I do avoid posting in here much, because of those traps you spring...

SS, you should once again devote your efforts to helping a cause of the "AmerIndian" that "AmerIndians" actually give two s***s about. It seems like you just engage on these issues as another intellectual dick measuring contest, as usual. It's like practice for the debate team or something. My company deals with the Paiute tribe of "AmerIndians" fairly often, and I can tell you they care much more about economic opportunity and being able to achieve some level of sustenance on the godforsaken s***hole reservations we've put them on than some silly football team name/logo. As the Hawkeroo would say, you're all hat, no cattle, it seems.

The lefty pitcher...Austin something, is just nasty...was throwing in the high 70's...he hits righty...interesting.

Some of you with all your terminology and shorthand stuff are like professional internet debators

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 12:24 PM) James Foley is beheaded by ISIS. This is beyond horrifying. The other journalist there will have the same fate. The inhumanity of this and the other beheadings depresses me beyond no end. I am so freaked out by this and the Ferguson situation and the economy here and globally, not to mention Putin and the North Korean bastard asshole, it makes me think things will never get better in the world, that our world's best days are over. Can anyone get me off the ledge? Yes. Play more golf.

I just realized my sat radio subscription comes with internet listening...score

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 10:30 AM) I'm weird with my irons and I think it's mostly mental. I can hit a PW 130-135. My 7 is like 155-160 max. My 5 iron about 200-205. It makes little sense. Yeah, a lot of the time it is comfort. A lot of people just "like" one club more than the other and therefore probably put better swings on it than clubs they don't "like." It can be a dynamic loft issue, but that is unlikely...but possible...say you were delofting your short irons by moving the shaft angle forward or something, but actually adding loft to your longer irons by having an impact position where your shaft angle was further back....but with you, you've got a short distance sort of in the middle...

QUOTE (farmteam @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 05:28 AM) I'm a terrible golfer (happy when I break 100), but for some reason I'm able to hit the ball a decent distance. 150 is a 9-iron for me. If I only I could get that hitting it straight thing down. And also if I made a better effort to get out there more. Most likely your length. Longer levers = faster swing speed.

38 today. Was a nice round because I only hit 3 greens but got up and down 3 times. Almost had my first ace, too. Ball just barely rolled by the hole and came to rest about a foot past the hole. Nice to score well even when the ball-striking is a bit off.

Yeah, tell him you accepted the offer at the other company, but should a full-time permanent position become available, that you would have interest and that he should not hesitate to contact you.

QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 03:41 PM) Wow, I'm nearly 6'4 and if I hit it well I may get my 7 iron in the 140 yard range and that's my best hitting club. I must be doing something wrong or just really weak. it's all about your swing speed, attack angle and dynamic loft...

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 03:41 PM) I-25's mofo!! i edited...it's a 33 degree

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 03:34 PM) Callaway hawkeyes arent that old are they? Not sure...for instance, your i25's are strong...33 degree 7-iron...ping eye 2 7-irons were 36 degrees....my titleist ap2 7-iron is 34. The iron number means nothing...the loft is the number that matters...a lot of pros have iron sets with loft numbers on them and not traditional iron numbers.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 03:19 PM) My 3 hybrid is 240 and 3 iron3 is around 225 -230. My distances only starting getting better the last several years when I started really striking the ball. Back in the day my 150 club was a hard 7 iron which is now around 170-175 Keep in mind that your 7-iron from back then was likely 38-degrees. Today, your 7-iron is probably 34-degrees.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 03:12 PM) I don't believe so. They look like "standard ass Rams." Alright, I'll keep that in mind and see if I can get that done within the next few weeks. Generally, irons these days are going to be a club stronger, but yeah, I generally hit a club equivalent to your 3-iron about 210-215 yards. I hit a club equivalent to your 8 iron 145 yards.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 03:02 PM) I think contact is OK most of the time, just not a ton of power. Although, my actual 3 and 4 irons are old Rams from my dad's set. The set I have has a 4 hybrid which goes further for sure, I just need to learn to hit it better. Are they "Golden Rams"? You should go into a Golf Galaxy or something under the premise of being interested in some irons to see what your swing speed is with a 7-iron. I'd be interested to see that.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 02:33 PM) Man, I bet I could get it to where you could half swing and get it that far. I am an 8 or a 9 iron from 150 with a smooth swing. Yeah, something is not right...either he almost never makes good contact or he needs new clubs.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 01:13 PM) If I wasn't stuck in Missouri I would play with you lol. I think if I played more I could eventually fix the slice just like you did but I just haven't played enough. Even when I go to the driving range and try to aim straight and keep my body and feet straight I still get a massive slice. Like what you said in a post above, I just face to left like I am trying to hit it there and it slices no matter what. I think it is important that we get on the same page regarding terminology. So most people who slice/fade the ball do one of three things: 1) Pull Fade/Slice 2) Push Fade/Slice 3) Over-the-Top Fade/Slice The Pull Fade/Slice starts out left of your target and fades back to your target or right of your target. This occurs when your swing path is outside to inside and your club face angle is open relative to your swing path but closed relative to your target. Thus, it starts out left (the pull) of your target and fades back to your target or beyond (the fade/slice). The Push Fade/Slice starts out right of your target and fades even more to the right of your target. This occurs when your swing path is outside to inside somewhat and your club face angle is open both relative to your swing path and the target. Thus, is starts out right (the push) of your target and fades further away from your target (the fade/slice). The Over-the-Top Fade/Slice is probably the most common. This is when your swing path is wayyy outside to inside and and your club face angle is fairly square to your target but still open to that big swing path. The ball starts out on target but then quickly takes a big right hand turn due to the swing path. Which do you guys struggle with?

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 01:15 PM) My advice, take a lesson. Even if it's just one. They can give you 1-3 easy things to think about/work on. One of my big ones was the hips. Now I think about it, turn instead of sway a ton, and it fixed a lot of it. I never would have known to focus on that. I never saw myself swing, if that makes sense. Putting a few things on video was good. Yeah, there is an app called v1 golf that you can use to watch your swing in slo-mo and draw all kinds of lines and angles on the screen to see some of these things in your swing. Lateral movement isn't all bad, since it helps transfer weight, but a big sway will usually cause you to have weight transfer issues (often times people who sway are reverse pivoting) and consistent contact issues. What you said is exactly correct - you need hip rotation more so than lateral hip movement. The rotation of your hips against your legs causes tension, and rotation of your shoulders against your hips causes even more tension...this allows you to uncoil and generate clubhead speed. When you don't have any of this rotation you tend to try to generate clubhead speed with your arms, which usually causes the over-the-top motion and as a result, the slice.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 01:07 PM) I used to turn both my feet to the left, and hit normal, not just open up. Glad I don't have to do that anymore. Once in a while I'll slice one badly but right now it's usually a consistent fade, which is workable and doesn't require me to aim way left. A little left, like you said, is fine. I'm pretty sure I turn my wrists as soon as I take the club away. For grips, well, I've never really thought about it. Since I just "seriously" got into golf 2 years ago (hadn't played in years before that), I only have a Wilson starter set and a few other clubs, with whatever normal grips come on them. I do wear a glove on my left hand. I do grip the club pretty tight, I know I need to work on that a bit. I don't have a lot of distance, but I'm not a big guy anyway. I sort of understand why hips and lower body etc. matter, but I feel like all my swing comes from my arms, maybe? Anyway, I'm not really concerned YET about crazy distance, first thing is just hitting the ball straighter. In a few years, I will get better clubs, but no need to drop thousands when I'm still trying to rapidly improve the game. I know new clubs isn't a quick fix for swing issues. When I said what kind of grip, I meant the way you grip the club with your hands...not the type of grips physically on your club. Sorry for the confusion. Like I was saying a few days ago with Rock...it's certainly very tough to diagnose from descriptions...especially since most golfers don't really know what they are doing anyways... As for clubs...you certainly don't need to drop thousands...if you do intend on getting "serious" about it, I would advise investing in a better set of irons...then you can add to your set with a driver, putter, wedges, fairway woods as you see fit. You can get a pretty good set of used irons usually for $400-500, if that is more appealing to you...the one catch is that they should "fit" you. Rock mentioned you were "tall enough" to hit the ball a long ways...how tall are you? What club do you normally use if you are 150 yards from the green?

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 12:12 PM) To your first point, I wouldn't change a thing. I'd just turn to the left, and "hit it straight", knowing what was going to happen. That's just where the ball would go no matter what. May as well turn. Good info there, thanks for sharing. I've fixed it a good amount. I still have what I'd call a fade, not a slice though. I either aim straight, or only slightly left. Once in a while it will go straight. When I saw myself on video, I was swaying my hips front to back, it was awful. Didn't know I was doing it. Turning my hips has helped a lot. The other thing I need to work on is not casting the club, and doing your swing where it's inside to out. I try to do it, but I just don't think on the way down, I have the hang of keeping the club head inside that line they draw down to the ball when they do video analysis. I also don't think I know how to turn my wrists correctly (which is part of the above problem) I feel like I should be holding the club "looser" but I probably hold it super tight and don't rotate the wrist/hands through to the other side. A tip I saw the other day was when you get to the top, think of yourself pulling a light switch down to start your swing down. I think a lot of my problems come from being a hockey player/baseball player and then trying to put a club in my hands. So I'm trying to unlearn certain motions I'm used to doing. Actually, I edited that post a lot because I think I stated some things incorrectly (this can be very confusing). I'll try to address what you say here. which will likely make more sense now after editing the previous posts. If you are fading the ball, and you turn and aim more left, that is fine...as long as you turn your entire body to aim left and don't just open up your stance by moving your left leg further left, which is what most people do. This is what causes that out-to-in swing path to get even more out-to-in. If you correctly aim left, what you'll do is keep your swing path the same and just ultimately "play the fade," and that's what a lot of pros do. There is nothing wrong with curving the ball left to right or right to left...the key is to do it every time, except when you don't want to. As for your wrists, when you bring the club back, do you immediately begin cocking your wrists, or do you take the club back just with your shoulders and arms (otherwise known as a "one-piece" takeaway)? People who cock their wrists early tend to bring the club back inside and behind them quickly, which requires a big adjustment back to the outside when they make their downswing. This adjustment back to the outside often then causes the outside-to-inside or over the top move at impact. A one-piece takeaway allows you to take the club back "wide" and allows for a much easier transition from backswing to downswing. What kind of grip do you use? Most of the time a grip directly impacts how you use your wrists. Also, as for grip pressure, do you wear a glove? If so, do you wear it out quickly? You basically want to grip the club just tightly enough so that you can control it...although I grip the club tightly too and I think that is because I started playing young with my dad's heavy blade irons and so it was sort of out of necessity The light switch can be good or bad. It depends on how you interpret it. I have found that I hit the ball extremely well (especially with my irons) when I can start my downswing with my lower body and "pull the club down" through the weight transfer and rotation of my hips. This sort of drags the shoulders, then the arms, and then the club down and ensures that I don't get my arms and hands out ahead of my body (which happens when I start really pulling or hooking the ball). However, some people interpret "pulling a light switch" as starting the downswing with the arms, and that is not what you need to do. So it just depends on what swing thoughts work for you. Hockey players are actually normally pretty good golfers, honestly. But I know that when I was playing baseball at the same time as golf, I often struggled.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 10:36 AM) They tried to pull that on me the other day and my credit score is next to perfect, the guy came back with concerns on my credit report of which I brought up on my phone and laughed. Guess my business is going to another dealership idiots. The worst trick of all is when they get you to agree to a higher rate than you actually qualified for. Then they pocket the difference. How this is legal, I am not even sure.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 10:30 AM) We should play sometime, we sound almost like the same golfer (both technique and in scoring), although I have somewhat fixed my wicked slice, and don't aim at houses anymore. Just more of a fade I can work with, and still trying to get better. Yeah, the thing most people with a semi-large slice don't realize is that by aiming more and more to the left, they are actually increasing the depth of the slice/fade. Opening up your stance encourages more of an over-the-top swing, which imparts more sidespin as a result of the outside-in swing path. Another great thing that has come out of the trackman is a greater understanding of ball flight laws. The data tells us (and this is somewhat up for debate still, but the data is pretty convincing) that if you impact the ball with a negative club path angle (outside to in) and have a club face angle open to that path angle, you are going to hit the ball with a fade or slice. The more you swing outside to in, the higher (the more negative) that club path angle gets, the more unlikely it is that you can hit the ball without slicing it because it becomes almost impossible to get the clubface more closed than the swing path angle is out-to-in. So for example, say you have an open stance and aim approximately 10 yards left of the middle of the fairway, because you know your ball often fades from left to right. Your swing path is likely outside-to-in. Let's say it is -6 degrees. The ball is slicing because of two things: 1) Your outside-to-in swing path of -6 degrees, and 2) Your club face angle is open relative to the swing path angle of -6, even if it was still closed relative to where you are aiming. So your club face could actually be technically closed at impact, but it is still open to your swing path because of that big out-to-in motion. That is why it seems like sometimes no matter how far aim left, your ball just slices more and more and more. To help correct this, you need to look at what the new ball flight laws are telling you about your ball flight and make adjustments. To correct that slice, you need to get the club face angle somehow closed more than your out-to-in swing path. If you can get your swing more neutral, say, even a -2 degree out-to-in swing path, it is easier to get the club face closed relative to a smaller number than the larger number. However, i think the easier fix is to get the swing path to be more inside-to-out (a positive degree number) because club face angle is usually a matter of timing and hands and wrist movements. If you can, for instance, get into an in-to-out swing path of 3 or 4 degrees, you can leave that club face open relative to your target, but closed relative to your swing path, and therefore move the ball right to left. Even if you were to get the club face angle open as much as your swing path is in-to-out, you could hit the ball straight and have no slice. A lot of tour players will hit power fades with their drivers. The way they are accomplishing this is with a slightly more open club face angle than their inside-to-out swing path angle. This allows one to still fade the ball but in a controlled manner.