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QUOTE (Tex @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 09:07 AM) So one or two players in six years have outstanding seasons is enough for a pitching coach, is it enough for the hitting coach? Just saying we've anointed Coop as the god of all pitching coaches, and I'll agree he's our best position coach, but maybe he looks good because he's surrounded by idiots. Why are people fighting this? It is absolutely crystal clear that the professional baseball industry views Don Cooper as one of the best pitching coaches in the game. This is stated constantly by national broadcasters, opposing team's broadcasters, writers, commentators, etc. This is further evidenced by a long list of success stories with pitchers who had experienced little or none previously in their major league careers. This is further evidenced by the number of quality starts made in Cooper's tenure here. This is further evidenced by an excellent record of health by our SPs during Cooper's tenure here. Is his record spotless? No. Has he had some pitchers fail under his tutelage? Yes. His body of work in a White Sox uniform is glaringly better than not only Greg Walker, but better than probably any coach in White Sox history, other than perhaps Walt Hriniak. Twist the facts around as much as you want; play devil's advocate as much as you want. But this isn't that difficult. Don Cooper has been one of the biggest reasons why this Club has experienced the success that it has, and it really isn't something that is up for debate.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 08:12 AM) Actually, has anyone ever seen him in the same room as Greg Walker? Food for thought. I've asked him repeatedly what his relationship is to Walker, but he ignores the question. If you remember back a few years, DA was the same way with Juan Uribe. It was later revealed that Uribe bought DA dinner at some buffet or something.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 06:40 AM) For the record, I'm not blaming Cooper for Peavy's injury, but I clearly remember the game when that lat detached. That particular day, he maybe threw 15 pitches in the bullpen before the game. My friend and I were astonished. I don't know if it was because he was in pain and knew something was wrong or what. I also don't know if the lat was partially detatched at the time or it became detatched all at once. But the night Peavy called it a season in 2010, he wasn't in the bullpen more than 2 or 3 minutes before the game. From what I recall, the coaching staff had been on him about his warm-up routine, but they ultimately deferred to Peavy's judgment. You can only make a player of Peavy's status do so much.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 07:16 AM) Weren't we picked for 4th or 3rd coming into 2005 and 2008? The main difference is those teams had some flexibility built into the salary structures to easily make changes on the run. With our luck, the Twins (who could lose 100 games) will get another Joe Mauer and we'll be stuck with another "safe" college player who will never become a superstar with the 12th or 13th pick. Well, if we do, it won't be because there wasn't a player there...it will be because we have no money allocated to the draft.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 07:51 AM) I think Oakland's accomplishments are artificially inflated by the division they competed in. It was a 4-team division to start with. The one "big market" team in their division is even more of a second fiddle in their city than the Mets or Sox. For most of the 2000's, Texas didn't even know what a pitcher was. I think it probably helped to have Tim Hudson/Mark Mulder/Barry Zito in their rotation. I definitely give them credit for what they did...it was incredibly innovative and has certainly ushered in a new era of analysis in baseball. But I think a lot of their success is misallocated to their methods and not to the fact that they had three of the premier SP's in the league during their entire run.

If I were in that clubhouse, I'd just be looking forward to the season ending and spending time with my family/girlfriend/doing whatever the hell I want to do for several months. I am sure they will watch some Postseason baseball and think about what might have been, but my guess is most of them are pretty sick of baseball at this point and just want to get this season behind them.

Well, I know no one gives a s***, but plays for tomorrow: Pats/Bills over 54 (this seems like a trap to me, but I succumbed anyway) Saints/Texans over 52 (Texans have the better defense, which is not going to stop Drew Brees, and Houston should put up 24-28 pretty easily I think) Chiefs +14.5 (teams that have been blown out twice in a row have a really solid record of playing fairly well in the third game) Cardinals -3 (I don't care where the game is being played, the TJ is freaking horrendous) Ravens -5 (the Ravens are 10-2 ats coming off a loss under Harbaugh, I believe) Good luck to all you bettors out there...

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 24, 2011 -> 11:21 AM) watch out, you might get "destroyed" by VMC I'm one of the bigger KW supporters here, and everyone knows it, so I for the most part just stay out of these threads. But by the criteria utilized by many here, there might be 4 GM's in the league that would ever last more than 2 seasons in their jobs.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 24, 2011 -> 11:13 AM) oh dont try and drag me into your tired arguments. predictable and lame. That's such an oversimplified arguement anyways. The 2005 team was not even KW's best-built team. The GM has at best, an indirect effect on where the ballclub ultimately finishes at the end of the year.

Some crazy lines out there this week...a lot of sharps on the Chiefs and Bengals this week. Lions first time favored in Minnesota since 1981. First time favored on the road since the Wayne Fontes era. Carolina giving points all the sudden. Atlanta a dog against a Tampa team that is 3-17 ats in their last 20 home games. Gotta love the NFL.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 20, 2011 -> 09:08 AM) Link Yeah, big difference between a dislocated knee and a dislocated kneecap.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 20, 2011 -> 02:17 AM) Thankfully, I didn't see the dong shot photo I was expecting to see clicking on this thread. Funny then that you were so eager to open it up...

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 20, 2011 -> 12:55 AM) Score prediction for Sunday: Bills 59, Pats 6. Fitzpatrick throws for 497 yards and 6 TDs and points a finger at Belichick. Either way, the total is only 55 or so here in Vegas, which seems pretty low to me.

I'm a pretty big Ryan Braun fan.

Hasn't this guy insisted time and again that he won't come to the MLB?

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 07:39 PM) Nice. Per his usual pattern, he adjusts and excels at every level. He's like a different player lately. His approach has been brilliant. My guess is he finally reached the point where he realized he and the team had nothing to lose, and let go of his defensive approach and just decided to start trying to hit the ball hard. All season long he was trying to go the other way with everything, which basically sapped most of his power.

How the hell are you only out a month with a dislocated knee? Either that timeframe or that injury is incorrect.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 06:54 PM) The sticking point is the duplicate housing assistance. They're only offering enough to cover 2 months of our mortgage. There are some other aspects of the relo deal that are quite nice though. I'm trying to have them modify that one sticking point and I should be hearing back from them tomorrow. In the meantime, I'll be having a real estate agent stop by to give us a sense of what we can sell our unit for and for how much. I really want this to happen so we'll explore every option available to us. Just look into the property management thing...don't dismiss the offer out of hand without exploring the option. Keep us posted!

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 07:39 PM) When Ozzie turns up missing, you know who was responsible.... Take Oney and Cowley to the same place.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 01:53 PM) Thanks. My acceptance will mostly depend on adjustments to their relo package. As it stands I don't think I can accept the offer. I am confident they will make some adjustments to make this work. Regarding the phone call....the HR rep even offered for me to talk to the director that same evening, knowing I wouldn't have accepted by then. I may just keep it and just briefly touch base. I may even mention that we're trying to iron out the relo package in order to move forward. Good news, Marko...what does the typical relocation package offer in terms of assistance with your home? A good friend of mine moved from Vegas to Portland and turned his home over to a property management company. It's not ideal, but if it allows you to make such a huge change in your life that you really want to make, perhaps you should look more into that option...

QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Sep 18, 2011 -> 08:48 PM) Is there any way Verlander does not get unanimous Cy Young? I think the bigger question is will he win the MVP...

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 18, 2011 -> 05:58 PM) Jim Leyland is a f***ing clown. Did he really just let Verlander throw almost 120 pitches? Let's win the division by 16 games instead of 15? The dude throws 120 pitches every start, and seems to show no ill-effects. Verlander is just a horse. Time to throw out this notion of limiting his pitch counts to that of mere mortals.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 18, 2011 -> 04:10 PM) I can compare him to Cooper all I want. Is Danks and Floyd's matching 4.42 ERA's what you were looking for this year? Peavy is almost 5.00. Buehrle is starting to get jacked around. You know when hitters do this who you blame. Just be consistent or start using some logic. There's 3 underachieving hitters on the Sox this year. Dunn, Rios and Beckham. If you really think that's, because of Greg Walker, I will be dissappointed in your baseball acumen. You are beyond f***ing ridiculous. No person that is being rational or fair could possibly put Walker and his accomplishments even in the same f***ing solar system as Don Cooper. You let some kind of personal relationship color the s*** out of your viewpoint of certain guys, be it Juan Uribe or Greg Walker. Why don't you just admit that you met him at some charity function and he signed your hat.

How depressing. I was hoping games like today were behind us. Unfortunately, it looks like we're going to always be concerned that we'll play like a high school team at any time from week-to-week.

Losing Bennett early is killing Jay...that is about the only wideout he trusts when he's getting blitzed like this. Need a big turnover from the defense to start the second half.