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QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 12:27 PM) Swarzak is a free agent after this year, you take whatever you can get for him at the deadline. Ahh ok, fair enough

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 12:00 PM) We need a board-wide training session on creating polls that allow multiple selections. Honestly, trade everyone, as long as we get good value. For me, Avi, Kahnle, Swarzak and Rodon are the guys that have some upside left in them that I would be concerned about giving away. Abreu I think brings a lot of veteran leadership to a ballclub heavy on latin american assets, so I suppose he is the guy that I would keep around for reasons chalked up to "chemistry" or "intangibles."

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 11:34 AM) Again...I know... Well you continue to post the same thing, despite the fact that the team and the manager are clearly frustrated. We all f***ing know they don't have to do anything. Guess what? There is no rule that says you have to try to win in professional sports, ever. The point is that even watching from the outside, you can see the facade is starting to show signs of stress due to their bullpen blowing nearly every. single. game. But yes, we all know, they do not have to do anything.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 11:01 AM) The Sox under Ken Williams did a very poor job of getting proper value out of relievers, trading Foulke, Marte, and Thornton when their values plummeted and paying a premium for Linebrink and Robertson. If they reverse that under Hahn and trade these guys while their value is at its peak, they will be doing business the right way. Yeah, Kahnle has probably figured something out with regards to his mechanics, and he could be very good for 3-4 years, but a rebuilding team especially should not be counting on that. The more I think about it, the more I think that Robertson, Kahnle, and Swarzak being on this team beyond July 31st would be a failure. This is pretty clear, but at the same time, I want good value out of these guys. I would rather get nothing for Kahnle and keep him than trade him in a month for 50 cents on the dollar because he doesn't have a long enough history of success. At some point, you have to cash in on your assets, but not at the expense of a well-reasoned, patiently negotiated rebuild. As I said before, this is a rebuild, but it doesn't need to be American Pickers. I like Hahn overseeing things for that very reason.

Carlos Rodon.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 07:07 AM) Well I'm feeling better about throwing some money on Mayweather. The line dropped to -500 which isn't terrible if you think he's pretty much a sure thing to win this thing. In boxing, I forget, do you get the line that it ultimately goes off at, like horseracing? Or do you get the line where it was when you actually wagered?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 11:34 PM) What do you guys have against contending? Nobody ever addresses my comment about trying to win with a real manager. Robin was THAT bad. And Sox brass wasn't ready to give up on Avi yet. Nobody would have wanted him in a trade and if he had another ridicuously bad season they'd just drop him as they did Tank. You keep Sale and Eaton, those are two huge pieces. We are 5 out. What would we be with them?? Like I said even after the Sale and Eaton trades the Sox are technically afloat at just five back. You bring up Moncada and one of the starters the Sox acquired, could the Sox contend? I think our starting rotation is pretty darn bad so I wouldn't bet squat on us contending the rest of the way, but facts are facts. Greg, it's funny, because when the FO has tried to win, we haven't won much. So of course it stands to reason that when they throw in the towel and begin the rebuilding, we win just as much or more than when they were trying

QUOTE (daggins @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 08:03 PM) 3-3, 2BB, and a HR. That'll do. Nice. Now build on that for a few weeks.

How about those White Sox! And the O's fans are talking FIRE SALE! Let's trade for Machado!

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 07:26 PM) All of the bullpen glue holding this team together. If that happens, we will all be very pleased.

QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 07:21 PM) I just don't see this team finishing in the bottom 3 unless trades are made almost immediately. There is nothing to suggest this is one of the very worst teams in baseball. Here's the issue though...who are they going to trade that is tearing it up so much that will cause us to lose more?

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 07:12 PM) Nope, pitched 8th tonight. Ugh...it appeared last week during the Marlins series that they had made that decision.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 07:09 PM) Who? Rivero! Have they not turned it over to him yet?

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 07:06 PM) Nicasio was god awful tonight. Pirates have no closer What? They have one of the best closers in baseball.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 06:37 PM) Q with some timely double plays tonight. Pitched well overall Yeah, this was what the doctor ordered.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 06:35 PM) Is that good? It sounds good. I think so!

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 06:30 PM) Nats going to have to use pen in 9th with 4-1 lead...Scherzer will be nervous. They can't let him throw 125-130. Yeah, Scherzer at 118 pitches through 8

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 06:29 PM) I really do enjoy watching Yolmer in the field. What do the numbers say about him at second? They like him for 2.1 fWAR defensively thus far

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 06:24 PM) Kopech's command starting to be an issue in his starts. He needs a breather Or maybe just don't f***ing throw it so hard

This is so EXCITING!!

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 06:22 PM) Really though, LF should probably be Delmonico's next year (later this year) When we extend Frazier, we can allow Davidson to man LF.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 06:16 PM) Which part are you taking issue with? Good is probably stretching, but he doesn't suck Actually, I was admiring your diplomatic response.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 06:07 PM) I think Melky is a good fit in our clubhouse and while I don't think he's a bad ballplayer, I don't think he fits the club moving forward. No reason to pay what he will likely command. Uhhh

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 05:45 PM) Archer, might be available Gray, more likely Duffy, injured Cueto or Shark (big contracts) Who are the other options out there? Minnesota's not going to trade Erwin Santana now, for example. Gray isn't any different than Q really. Archer has put up another Archer-like year....500 k's but still an ERA in the high 3's. Not as elite as one might believe.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 05:24 PM) Bulls may be a part of this celtics sixers trade The plot THICKENS