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Unbelievable game.

Big balls by Bellichick....gotta say though, probably a pretty smart gamble, even though I don't think it's going to work out for him...

Come on now...

You guys always beat me to the punch....and to think, I put in all that effort to find a word that began with 'Y."

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Nov 15, 2009 -> 10:20 PM) Yea I couldn't believe I forgot Pearl Jam. It's gonna be one of those list when most posters will probably say "how the hell did I forgot that band" when the full list is up. Well, I am amazed at the divide that occurs with Pearl Jam depending on your age. I have two good friends who are both 26, and they don't really care for Pearl Jam or Eddie Vedder at all, whereas I am 32 and they have to be one of my top 3 musical influences in my life.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Nov 15, 2009 -> 09:05 PM) I'm worried about a dropoff more than I am hopeful of an improvement. Because of the move to 2b?

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Nov 15, 2009 -> 09:02 PM) Gordon Beckham with an .800 OPS and almost 20 HR's? Damn, I sure hope so. He posted an .800 OPS with 14 home runs last season...

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Nov 15, 2009 -> 07:37 PM) So are they really saying that David Cook would be the 7th most valuable offensive player in our organization next year? Kind of disturbing, yes?

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 15, 2009 -> 05:25 AM) f*** post padder...

DA, I'm sure if the White Sox were to sit down with you, an accountant, they would be happy to give you the more detailed and specific situation regarding their finances. But when you're dealing with the masses, yeah, you say it in simple terms: "We don't have much money to spend on payroll. Should a player become available that we believe is a high-impact player or a difference-maker, we will explore ways to get creative with a possible acquisition..." I just don't get what else you expect them to say...do you expect them to give a detailed financial presentation to the fans? Every team other than the Yankees and Boston basically says things like this. And even they have been saying it recently.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 14, 2009 -> 09:34 PM) It's out there. He doesn't like CF and because of this he's played a total of 16 innings at the position over the past 4 years and only out of necessity. He also doesn't like to leadoff because in his mind taking pitching and working counts is not part of his game and because of this he's started 28 games out of the leadoff spot over the past 4 years and hasn't led off since his first 31 PA of '07. My opinion of him has gradually decreased over the past few years. And not that I wouldn't be excited about the guy playing here, but he's no longer a guy I would feel comfortable trading the farm for, nor signing him to a lucrative contract. Kinda just hope we take a pass on the guy if he is available.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Nov 14, 2009 -> 09:27 PM) While this is true there is another factor involved here. While JR is the managing partner for both the Sox and Bulls, the minority partners are the same group. He may have a different directive from the group in how he must deal with the Bulls profit line vs. the Sox profit line. I mostly agree with the sentiment but don't make the assumption that just because the Bulls are managed down to the bottom line that the Sox must be as well. Everyone knows that while JR adored Michael Jordan and the Bulls during Jordan's career here, and the 6 titles, etc., etc., his real passion has and always will be the White Sox.

DA, For a guy that is an accountant, I just don't understand how you can possibly have such an incredibly naive view on how professional sports organizations operate. I'm absolutely certain if you've worked on corporate accounts, or even the more complex personal accounts, that you've seen how monies within the umbrella of the organization or even a personal portfolio can be moved around to support different functions they were not necessarily earmarked for to begin with. This is what happens in professional sports. Teams and owners have access to monies they might not have earmarked for payroll previously that they might access in order to make a key acquisition, or if their team is competitive near the trade deadline, to make an addition that might put them over the top. However, those monies may have been designated for other purposes before, so they were not counted on originally for payroll. I simple cannot understand how you refuse to grasp this concept. It's as if the White Sox have credit cards, and unless they max every single account out, you're angry with them. Personally, no, I'm not angry with JR or KW or the way the organization is operated. On the contrary, I feel quite blessed to have a General Manager that is extremely aggressive and not afraid to make bold moves or look into acquiring every marquee player that becomes available. I am thankful to have an owner that wants to win titles as badly as I do, and makes every effort to do so. All one has to do is look around at the rest of the teams ahead of the White Sox in payroll, and it's usually pretty obvious why, when you see their stadiums filled and their franchise-owned tv networks, etc., etc. As for the acquisitions we haven't made, such as the Soriano's and the Delgado's, you may as well be Jay Hineybird. Delgado refused to accept a deal to come here. Soriano would have been a massive mistake, and luckily KW apparently decided the risk was not worth it. But we do look into impact players and difference makers as they become available, and to be honest with you, considering our attendance, as well as our relative standing in the major leagues, the number of impact-type players KW and JR acquire is disproportionate to that. Yet, I don't know what would satisfy you. You've never really stated what would actually make you happy. You are just on some ridiculous quest to prove that JR is embezzling White Sox money and hiding it in numbered accounts in Antigua or something.

Jim, I don't know if you've done this before for us at Soxtalk, but I would love to see a photo of your bar at home. I am dying to see how many bottles and random ingredients you have...

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 14, 2009 -> 10:31 AM) Last year was the first time I ever recall him adding significant payroll around June. In 2003 he added Alomar and Everett but the other teams paid most of the fare. I don't know about MacDougal, Horacio Ramirez and Blum being payroll busters. Usually around June he would talk to Thome and Konerko and determine what he had was fine IIRC. Dude, you have a really scary obsession with the White Sox budget... No one is really claiming that we have added significant payroll at the break, but we certainly have left room over the years to make a few additions at the break. If we were constantly taking on significant salary at the break, fans (like yourself) would immediately jump on them for hiding that money and not spending it prior to the season (as you did when they added Peavy and Rios). The point is that KW likes to shape his team as he sees fit both prior to the season as well as in the midst of it.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 14, 2009 -> 07:52 PM) He may not be selling cars, but he is performing at a fraction of the level he was at in his prime due to so many arm injuries. Yeah, but he's making $10 million a year doing it! Not too shabby!

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Nov 14, 2009 -> 07:27 PM) I fixed it, you bastard! You happy? Hey, you're learning now, aren't you?

QUOTE (KevinM @ Nov 14, 2009 -> 04:04 PM) Other than the fact that he's four years older than he was in 2006, hasn't had a significant workload since then, and pitchers at his age generally don't have three years with such low innings totals and miss a beat. So I'm just curious. What would be the reason, if he is indeed fully healthy, for him to be so limited in terms of IP? Are you suggesting he needs another year to build his arm strength back? Or that he will injure the arm or shoulder again?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 14, 2009 -> 05:10 PM) More fascinating stats...while both had a single down year (Rios last year, Crawford in 2008)...if you take a look at their OPS+ numbers, Rios has 2 seasons, 2006 and 2007, that are better than any season Crawford has put up offensively. His kinda down year in 2008 where he put up a 112 OPS+...that would be a pretty good year for Crawford. And Rios is more than likely a better CF to boot. We get the player Toronto had...and that's more production than you'd get from Crawford for less money. To boot! And that's not factoring in that Crawford refuses to play center field anyways.

QUOTE (KevinM @ Nov 14, 2009 -> 07:55 AM) Can people at least wait for Jared Mitchell to accrue some value before they ship him off in deals for overrated, age 30+ relief pitchers? The kid's raw as hell. He needs time, and the investment could pay off big time. Think Desmond Jennings. Well, luckily for you, these people aren't allowed to make the decision...

QUOTE (Tex @ Nov 14, 2009 -> 04:09 AM) The fire was accidental, but outdated forensic and fire science testimony was used to convict him. The "experts" in the area testified that the fire must have been arson, turns out that was not the case. Witnesses changed their testimony once they heard the guy may have set the fire. And of course, the guy was poor and didn't have Scheck, Cochran, Bailey, Shapiro, Kardashian, and Dershowitz defending him. http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/09...07fa_fact_grann Well right, but they charged him with arson...I thought you were saying they charged him with something accidental and still fried him.

QUOTE (Tex @ Nov 14, 2009 -> 03:56 AM) Thanks, but actually he got the chair for an accidental fire that killed his children. Wait a second....when you say accidental, do you mean that was part of the mistake they made, or that is what he was actually supposed to have done?

QUOTE (Tex @ Nov 14, 2009 -> 04:50 AM) We executed an innocent man in Texas. Who should go to the chair for his murder? Shouldn't his parents have the same revenge the state took on their son? Ahh, very good, Tex, very good. Although no one would ever get the chair for an accidental killing...

QUOTE (knightni @ Nov 13, 2009 -> 11:42 PM) Why is Cutler feeling the need to force the ball so much lately? Because he is accustomed to losing games if he doesn't score on almost every possession.