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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 05:49 PM) How many copies of The Dark Knight have been sold even though high-quality Blu-Ray rips were available to torrent? How many didnt? You're basically arguing that Hollywood makes plenty of money so it's ok.

I'll add too that I think the MPAA and similar organizations are looking to the future here. At some point people are going to stop going to movie theaters. Yes, there will still be a few here and there, but like movie rental stores, they'll basically all die in favor of online streaming/downloads. Same with music (digital will take over CD sales this year) and books (same trend). They know the majority of their future potential is going to be digital distribution. So again, if i've already got a nice clean digital copy of a pirated show or movie, why would I then purchase another digital copy of the same thing?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 05:04 PM) Balta brings up a great point here: http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?sh...p;#entry2537157 Soxtalk could be completely shut down and scrubbed from all Google searches etc. if a company who owned a copyrighted article copied in full to this forum requested it. edit: I've also read, from numerous sources, that this wouldn't actually do anything to seriously stop piracy. It'd be about as effective as the War on Drugs, with less bloodshed but still huge disparate impacts on everyone but the RIAA/MPAA. If the entire thing is passed, which it's clearly not going to be.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 05:01 PM) I'd have to dig but I believe impact studies have been done that show an increase in overall sales. Either way, my point (which I completely failed to actually make!) was that their gripe in relation to their desired solution is laughable. from the Cato article: They b****ed and moaned with the advent of VCR's. It would destroy the industry. Instead, it boasted sales and spurred an entirely new one (home video). They need to adapt with technology, not severely alter its fundamental structure because they want more profits. I don't think VCR's are a relevant comparison. The logistics are a gazillion times different.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 05:01 PM) I'd have to dig but I believe impact studies have been done that show an increase in overall sales. They b****ed and moaned with the advent of VCR's. It would destroy the industry. Instead, it boasted sales and spurred an entirely new one (home video). They need to adapt with technology, not severely alter its fundamental structure because they want more profits. The profitability arguments don't really fly these days. Maybe back in 2001 when all this stuff was really coming to a head (with music anyway) and you didn't have the memory capabilities we have today. Back then you might have downloaded a few albums and then grabbed a copy of the CD so you could listen to it on the road or something. But nowadays everything can be digital and you can take it anywhere you want to go (via a flashdrive, memory card, smartphone, external hard drive, etc) Are we really naive enough to think that if I'm watching Lost or The Dark Knight off a torrent (in 1080p, 5.1 quality...not some s***ty grainy version) that I'm going to then go waste 25 bucks on the blu-ray copy? Or after I finish a book on my e-reader i'm going to get the hard copy? Yes, there have been a few examples where smart entertainers (Radiohead, Louis C.K.) have scrapped the backing of a major media company and offered up their stuff for a cheaper price on their own dime. But those are special circumstances. 95% of copyright holders can't do that.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 04:49 PM) They possibly have a legitimate gripe. Their gripe does not support the extreme measures that SOPA/PIPA would put into place. Chris Dodd, now CEO of the MPAA, compared it favorably to Chinese control of the internet. They're crying poor because they (RIAA & MPAA) keep putting out terrible garbage that people don't want to pay retail for and conflate every download as a loss at full retail price. http://www.freakonomics.com/2012/01/12/how...he-u-s-economy/ http://techliberation.com/2006/10/01/texas-size-sophistry/ http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/how-copyrig...s-con-congress/ Possibly? s***ty movie/tv show/picture/book or not, if you made it and get the copyright and someone else steals it and puts it out there for free, that's wrong and you have a legitimate gripe to complain about someone stealing from you. And I agree 100% that SOPA/PIPA go too far, but that's why I think ultimately the bill will only have the foreign site stuff in there. That'll appease the "internet industry" since they won't be at the whim of copyright holders to be 100% certain that their sites are clean from any reference to some infringing material. Edit: ugh, i really gotta check my grammEr before hitting post.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 04:39 PM) In other words, we've just been given a nice real-world example of why SOPA isn't even needed if they go ahead and enforce laws already in place. Of course, it helps that Megaupload had some servers in the US. Not only helps, but that's the only reason they could go after them. With existing law Megaupload could go to Barbados and set up shop and they'd be back in business without breaking the law.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 04:28 PM) I sincerely hope that this completely unnecessary bill dies a quick death, but I doubt it will. I don't know that it's "unnecessary." Despite my hatred for the big media companies, they do have a legit gripe with overseas servers/domains pirating their stuff and posting it online for everyone to see for free.

QUOTE (flippedoutpunk @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 04:14 PM) If piratebay and firstrow.tv get shut down i don't know if ill have any other use for the interwebs outside of cupcake recipes. I'd learn a new hobby then. This bill is gonna get passed with some form of foreign site blocking. They're doing the same s*** they did with online poker. They have no jurisdiction over an overseas website, so they attack the problem from the other end: killing off the demand for the site to exist.

America, fuuuuuccckkkk yeaaaah!

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 01:42 PM) You guys have a ton of faith in Butler, I like him, I just am not going to put my Championship hopes on a rookie who primarily played forward in college. As for Hamilton/Allen, dont like either of them on Wade, I prefer Brewer. I just dont see why the Bulls would need to trade Brewer. +1.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 12:24 PM) Celtics would do that in a heartbeat. Korver + Brewer + 2-3 second round picks for Allen. This lineup: Rose - Watson Allen - Hamilton Deng - Butler Boozer - Gibson Noah - Asik Seems like an overpay for a guy that'll give you this year and maybe next year.

Trade Noah for Allen and a pick or two. 100% IN on that, though the Celtics would never do it.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 07:43 AM) I came here to poke fun at Indiana, but karma is a b****, so I'll keep my mouth shut til after tonight's game. Playing PSU the last 4 or 5 years has been nightmarish, so my confidence is waning. At least Talor Battle is gone, that guy still gives me nightmares. Hopefully they come out with some energy and get up big early. If they slow the game down and play at PSU's level they're setting themselves up for a loss. If I'm Weber I'd be threatening lots and lots of running at practices if Leonard doesn't get the ball IN THE POST on every possession.

For having the ugliest shot in basketball, Shurna sure can score.

Wisconsin is just not sharp like the past few years. Careless turnovers is usually something they don't have to worry about.

Another late game implosion by Indiana. Wow.

(1) Illinois bball (2) Sox/Bulls (3) Bears (4) Illinois Fball (i love pain)

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 18, 2012 -> 01:47 PM) I think you might be overhyping the Big Ten a bit. They are already 3-4 in the conference, a 6-5 finish puts them at 9-9, with a 17-14 overall record. I don't think that puts them in at all. Losing at home to a sub-par team is never a "good loss" I might be, but the other pundits seem to agree. Iowa I think has a legit shot at 7 wins, putting them at 10-8. Four wins again Neb and PSU, beat MINN (home) again, take one of two against NW, and then beat one out of IU (x2), ILL and WIS (home).

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 18, 2012 -> 01:05 PM) Doubtful. They don't play OSU or MSU anymore to get big wins and they went 8-5 out of conference with zero good wins and a home blowout loss to Campbell. Despite their two good wins, they got swept by Purdue and crushed by OSU & MSU. Big Ten is far and away the best conference this year. They crushed everyone in the non-con, so Big Ten teams will get the Big East treatment - just about all conference losses are "good losses." I'm not saying they'll get in, i'm saying if they grab another few wins they're not supposed to get there's no reason they can't make it.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 18, 2012 -> 12:45 PM) Iowa won AT Wisconsin, & Minny won AT Indiana. Neither will make the tournament, but those are two impressive wins. Iowa also crushed Michigan at home. They have an outside shot if they keep it up.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jan 17, 2012 -> 08:16 PM) Can someone explain Big Ten athletics to me? I don't understand this year's version. I think we're finding out that they go a legit 7 deep, maybe 8-9 (OSU, MSU, ILL, IND, MICH, WIS, PUR, NW, IOWA/MINN on the bubble). Really only PSU and NEB are bad. Probably no national title contenders in the bunch, but maybe a couple of deep tourney runs if teams are playing well in March.

Big fan of Alcatraz. I think Abrams learned his lesson with Fringe, which started as a standalone procedural with a VERY broad overall mystery, but quickly made the mystery more of the focal point. I was glad to see that the second episode brought back the first prisoner and incorporated him into the story. We'll get the one case per show, but it's all adding up and building towards something. It's Lost-like right down to the music and "Alcatraz" screen shot. Loved it. Also, agree on the main blonde busting out. Too bad this show wasn't on HBO/Showtime.

QUOTE (He_Gawn @ Jan 16, 2012 -> 08:52 AM) I'm talking as a collective team. Heck, it's not even fair to Glenn to say he was Gene's player. He came to Purdue because of Frank Kendrick. He took a nap halfway through Knight and Keady's home visit. And judging by his apartment and vehicle (for a kid from Gary, Indiana), there's no chance it was a clean recruitment anyway. But back to IU/IL. I was pissed and drinking heavily last night. It won't be easy for IU, but I fully expect them to win. I have no idea what to expect in that game. On the one hand I could see Illinois getting blown out of the gym like they did at Purdue. I can also see them gutting out a tough win like they did against Northwestern. It does, seem, however that Indiana's shooting is coming back down to earth the last few weeks. So that'll help.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jan 14, 2012 -> 03:49 AM) I can't remember what it's called, but it stars Lucious Malfoy from Harry Potter, and it looks really interesting. I think it's called "awake" maybe? Yeah it's Awake. I was excited about the show when the trailer launched last summer, but it's been delayed so many times. It can't be a good sign that the show had to halt production and delay the premiere because the writers couldn't come up with a good ending.