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wow boozer just got punched by garnett and no call

QUOTE (Felix @ Jan 13, 2012 -> 08:59 PM) I heard Rose ran into Noah and they called a foul on Rondo. That sounds hilarious to me. Nope, Rondo purposefully went for Rose's foot and tripped him

jermaine o'neal got fat

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jan 13, 2012 -> 06:35 PM) Anyone else going to check out Alcatraz Monday? Yep, i'm excited. Though Terra Nova has really lessened my enthusiasm for any network show. At least Alcatraz looks more like Lost (long story arc) versus a procedural.

alright, shut the f*** up about Lebron and get back to the game (van gundy...on the espn telecast)

that was a quick three second call, unless they called it on Gibson.

QUOTE (He_Gawn @ Jan 13, 2012 -> 02:48 PM) Not the only, but you're fan base is one of the worst. I mean, you're complaining about the refs in a game your team wasn't even playing in. I just watched the replay on Zellers and 1, and there was definitely enough lower body contact to call a foul. Regardless, it's over, we lost, time to move on. Lol, ditto my friend. Hoosiers fans think so highly of themselves, it's quite hilarious. Who here hasn't complained about Big Ten officiating? I'm a fan of college basketball generally, Big Ten basketball specifically and of course my favorite team is Illinois. But I watch a LOT of Big Ten games, and I complain about a LOT of Big Ten officiating, both for and against teams that I dislike. Those bulls*** and-1 fouls were not fouls the entire game, but magically there's two of those calls in the last minute JUST as Indiana started to climb back into the game. It's f***ing entertainment theater and the Big Ten absolutely knows it and advocates for it. It's why nearly every Big Ten fan, and even college basketball writers, laugh about the Big Ten home advantage. It's purposeful to make games closer so that the conference as a whole looks better ("they went 9-9 but it's so tough to win in the Big Ten. They just beat each other up").

QUOTE (farmteam @ Jan 13, 2012 -> 12:16 PM) The one with Zeller was definitely a foul, and I can't remember the other one. I'm also amused that the first person to comment on the refs from that game was an Illinois fan. That's what we do. In fact, that's the only thing we do. I'm pretty sure we're the only fan base that complains about officiating in sports. And no, the one with Zeller was the absolute clear wrong call. The other was at least debatable (the one with like 20 something seconds left) since the defender kinda sorta moved his hands down from a straight up and down position. In the heat of the moment (end of the game) with the way the game was called (not too terribly tight), it was two very odd calls that kept Indiana's chances alive.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 13, 2012 -> 12:19 PM) I think I've offered up a few decent scenarios illustrating how I can conclude "things will be worse for American soldiers in Afghanistan as a result of this video, where worse=more deadly." Local support will almost assuredly go down, and that demonstrably lessens their intelligence capabilities and increases risk. Put yourself in a hypothetical Afghani's shoes who hates the Taliban, hates Karzai but also doesn't have much love for the foreign army in his country--will this make you less likely to help that foreign army, especially since helping that foreign army can put you and your family at risk from reprisal? On the other hand, we've got claims that videos of foreign soldiers desecrating corpses in a country will cause zero impact, claims which haven't really been supported. LOL. "I've created a hypothetical to prove my point. You haven't. I WIN!" Come on man.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 13, 2012 -> 11:56 AM) Desecrating corpses tends to trigger a pretty strong response from people in every culture I'm aware of. Are you really trying to contend that this will illicit no response in Afghanis or other people across the world who will see this story? That it won't damage US reputations? Hypothetical: Maybe you hated the Taliban and were happy to see them driven out, but now this foreign army has shown itself to have no more respect for human decency than the Taliban. Why continue to help? edit: you basically ignored the rest of the post after that bolded part to ask a question I already answered. Have you tried putting yourself in the shoes of someone who doesn't support the old, terrible regime (taliban), the current terrible regime (karzai) or the foreign army occupying your homeland? Yes, the neutral Afghanis might think negatively about this, but I don't see how suddenly they're going to ASSIST the Taliban because of it. "I don't like the Taliban, I don't like the current admn running my country, and now I don't like the occupying army that's been here for the last 10 years because of this act. WHELP, GUESS I'LL START AIDING THE TALIBAN!" There's a huge, huge leap there. This would make sense if these ended up being random innocent civilians AFTER some pro-taliban PR campaign had started. But as it sits now your typical Afghani doesn't like the taliban and probably doesn't like or is accepting of the current admn, and either likes or is indifferent to America's presence there. Making them think more negative about us isn't going to create a POSITIVE reaction towards for the Taliban. The Taliban hasn't become popular there. They still kill innocent people. And the civilians there still want them gone.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 12, 2012 -> 01:47 PM) The business owner, who now sees a substantial increase in productivity and decrease in labor costs. Well that's just not true. His costs have actually increased due to the extra benefits he has to pay for the extra worker.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 13, 2012 -> 11:40 AM) These are all more likely scenarios when you see your countrymen being pissed on by foreign soldiers. Even if you may not agree with them or support their ideology, you're not exactly going to be rushing to support the foreign occupiers who don't even have the decency to respect the dead. It's Abu Gharib all over again. Are you just not thinking this through? How is it logical that you would accept your countrymen being BLOWN TO PIECES without some sort of negative reaction (from actually signing up to fight to just deciding not to help the US with information) but the additional step BEYOND that is somehow going to cause some kind of reaction? That makes no sense at all . Abu Gharib IMO was different since it was a systematic abuse of prisoners of war. This is three rogue soldiers doing something stupid and disrespectful to soldiers they killed.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 13, 2012 -> 11:16 AM) One of the common arguments against why Iraq was such a dumb war was that it increased antagonism towards the US, so I'm not sure whose logic you're presenting. Different war, different people. Who in the world thinks it was wrong for the US to go after the Taliban? No one, not even the locals in Afghanistan. I don't see who this imaginary almost-extremist Balta created will come from. If these end up being civilians, that's one thing. But right now it's more likely Taliban soldiers, who the region already hates (though less than 10 years ago). Again, it makes no sense that someone will be fine with Americans killing these people but doing something after the fact is going to push them over the edge. How does that make any logical sense? "You raped my wife. Well, i'm not going to react violently towards you, but wait! You didn't say thanks when you left? That's just rude and now i don't like you." At the very most you might have some people think "well, those guys suck." It's not going to be some rallying cry for Taliban recruitment. And the reaction should be tempered in their respective groups because stereotyping Americans as a whole based the act of a few would be wrong and unacceptable.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 13, 2012 -> 10:51 AM) So nothing the US ever does could possibly incite violent reaction? It's all deterministic? Whether we pass out food or piss on corpses, the responses will be the exact same? I don't get the logic behind (1) US bombing/killing Taliban soldiers =/= more terrorists and increased risk but (2) US bombing/killing Taliban soldiers and then pissing on their remains = more terrorists and increased risk Is the extremist on the edge of joining the fight really going to be pushed over the edge by this? "I'm acceptable of Americans killing these soldiers, but pissing on them? THIS WILL NOT STAND!" GMAB. It's a terrible thing they did. It should not be condoned. They should be punished. But it'll have ZERO increase in harm to US soldiers. Ordering another Big Mac and allowing your wife to show her face in public will have more of an effect.

My favorite was with less than a minute and a half to go, Indiana got 2 and-1 plays that were not even remotely close to being fouls. Think the Big Ten doesn't like drama?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 12, 2012 -> 04:32 PM) Americans would be justifiably outraged if videos of the reverse appeared. And progressives would be telling us to ignore it as merely the "fringe" terrorists performing those types of acts, and that any hatred/animosity towards the citizens of X country generally would be wrong.

anyone check out the new Cheadle/Showtime show House of Lies? I'd give it a B-. It's basically if Entourage and Made in America had a television baby. Not really sure where they can take it since the whole pitch-meeting thing would get old pretty quick.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international...jpyMVVsk1EVI2sO

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 11, 2012 -> 09:24 AM) Yeah, weird to bash Weber because he destroyed Matta last night. And it's not like his team played terrible. They still shot 47 percent. Still crazy that neither team had a single bench point. This was a classic your 5 guys versus my 5 guys type game.

QUOTE (He_Gawn @ Jan 11, 2012 -> 09:00 AM) Well, Etwaun Moore put up 38, 5 assists, and 3 steals on 13-18 shooting LAST year against OSU, so it's not unheard of. Solid win for the Illini. Best part is that it buys Bruce Weber more time. NICE Eh, he gets a win like this about every season. A year or two ago he beat a #5 MSU team at home and a few days later beat a #10-12 ranked Wisconsin team on the road. People who think he's a bad coach are idiots. It's his inability (or more likely unwillingness) to adapt to his team. He wants to mold young guys to be good when they're juniors and seniors in his motion offense system and man to man defense. Sometimes you gotta realize the players will just never be good in those systems and change it up. I think he's been doing a pretty decent job of it this year all things considered. People don't seem to remember this team lost 3 (arguably 4) of its best players last year. They brought back exactly one starter (Richardson) and their sixth man (Paul). They're relying on two guys who played a combined 11 minutes a year last year (Leonard and Bertrand...for both mostly garbage minutes) and a true freshman point guard (Abrams). His bench is a career bench player (Griffey) and a bunch of other freshman (Egwu, Shaw). They've gutted out an incredible number of close wins, due largely in part to his ability to design set plays and run them. Obviously the half court offense has been pretty terrible, and my TV remote has been thrown countless times due to this teams' inability to execute a simple post feed, but they're young and still learning. They coughed up 18 turnovers in this game and still managed to beat a national title contender. They're going to have a terrible loss in the Big Ten. You know it's coming. But so long as they continue to make progress I think they can be a pretty dangerous team come March.

QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jan 10, 2012 -> 10:09 PM) I am f***ing utterly speechless right now. God that was awesome. I can only pray that that could lead to a different Brandon Paul down the stretch. This. A million times this. That was probably the best Big Ten conference game single performance I have ever seen. 43 pts in a conference game, against a #5 rated team? Has there been a better one in Big Ten history?

Ugh, except the 30 people, thank you Illini fans for knowing that you've been there before.

God, please do not rush the court. have some class.

wow. 40 pts. possibly 42. just unheard of in the Big Ten, in conference play, in the modern era

QUOTE (farmteam @ Jan 10, 2012 -> 10:01 PM) If Illinois hangs on, it's just proving the old adage of "Hold serve at home, take what you can on the road" is especially true this year. The Big Ten is beyond brutal.