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QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 04:21 PM) Whenever they mention the maps they mention that it shows who "won" the various states. I am just having a hard time understanding why they use a different measure to identify which state a candidate won then the measurement that is actually used to secure the nomination. That is why they also report delegates won. Each state runs their primaries in their own way. In Texas you would need three maps to be really accurate. One to show delegates won based on the popular vote in each Rep district, one for caucus delegates won, and finally pledged superdelegates. And remember Texas awards delegates in a State Rep by State Rep districr basis. They report the popular vote because people want to know and it is the one comparison you can make from state to state. We still believe that every vote matters.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 03:59 PM) I understand the various things that are being reported wrt to popular vote, states won, etc. My beef is that when the major networks show a map of who won which state they only go by popular vote when that is not the measurement used for who wins the nomination. Would it be too difficult to color Texas and Nevada as Obama wins on the map? He did win those states when using the actual, and only, measurement used to decide the nominee. It depends on what they are trying to show with the maps.

QUOTE(pierard @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 04:12 PM) You really think so? I guess I never really though about it from that angle. It is a good point though. Personally, I don't know why people want pot to be illegal. Actually, after I thought about it, it would also depend on the current climate and who was elected and why.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 04:03 PM) He'd be impaired if he had a cold and took cold medicine, so yes he would be considering impairment is such a giant blanket statement. You can be impaired by coffee, pop, different foods, mood, blood chemistry, sleep deprivation etc etc. So I dont know what kind of statement you are trying to make. But how does pot make people better drivers, yet somehow worst surgeons?

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 03:58 PM) Makes zero sense considering I dont even want my surgeon in a fight with his wife before operating, having a bad day, dust in his eye, headache, twitch, ANYTHING. Are you saying he would be impaired?

QUOTE(pierard @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 03:43 PM) The whole pot legality argument is skewed. Right now, only one side (those in favor of legalization) bear the burden of persuasion. If the argument started on a neutral basis, that is deciding whether pot should be illegal or not without it already being legal/illegal, I think the argument to make it illegal would be MUCH weaker than the argument to legalize it. Unfortunately, Rockefeller was able to handicap the argument. Actually I think under those circumstances, we would wind up without pot, cigarettes, and alcohol.

QUOTE(pierard @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 03:45 PM) Driving = Surgery? Judgement, reaction time, reflexes, motor movement, etc. If they could drive better, why wouldn't they be better in surgery? What skills would get worse for surgery that you would not need in driving?

There are several *facts* being reported. It is being reported how many delegates have been won, and it is being reported who won which states. Should the media just not report the winner of the popular vote in each state because some people do not understand that delegate count is more important? What people think after reading and hearing those results cannot be controlled.

^^^ How many would want their surgeon smoking a joint right before operating?

wow. I hope there were two bathrooms, poor guy

http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/conditions/...ref=mpstoryview

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 02:51 PM) Winning Mississippi is not the same as winning Ohio, and shouldn't be portrayed as such. The whole Obama 11 state winning streak was stupid, because none of the states had any BIG delegate pull to them. The number of states each candidate has won, does not matter. All of the state sizes are not equal, and just giving total numbers of state wins is shortsighted. Hell just think back to the 2004 election when Bush used the same strategy to declare a mandate, and everyone freaked out. Oh how the times have changed... Using a sports analogy, isn't this like counting wins during the season? Of course there are big and small wins. But unlike say, college football, strength of schedule will not come into play. So I think there is some value in those comparisons. As far as Bush, I think the general is like the championship game. Sometimes the best team in the regular season doesn't win. Sometimes a bad call changes the results. And then we have the debates as to what the victory actually means. There can be valid and invalid inferences drawn from the same information. So I think it could be fair, in a primary, which occures in series, to make inferences that would not be valid if everyone voted at the same time. Still, great points, states won is not as big a factor as which states which will be a better predictor of success in November. But it really doesn't matter which Dem won Texas, they will lose in November and the opposite for California.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 02:27 PM) With Haeger and Broadway out, I think that means there is a 99% chance that Masset is in the pen. He's the only pen arm left that can go a few innings. I'm a little surprised they want to just release Vasquez - he seemed to do well last year. I wonder if something came up in camp we haven't heard about, or if he's got some sort of mechanical issue. Or just doing right by him. Maybe he can catch on a 25 somewhere.

QUOTE(Soxy @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 01:33 PM) Well, that certainly is your opinion. BTW, I agree pot is probably less harmful then alcohol, I just don't think the comparison is necessary.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 12:08 PM) Its not a big in depth thing. Player fails GM has to take action to cover failing player If Anderson could play CF like a major leaguer in 2006, we wouldn't be talking about Erstad, Owens, Quinten, Swisher, and the rest of them. Brian Anderson's failure as a major league CF forced Kenny Williams into action. If you can't understand the logic there, there isn't much point in continuing. And every GM in baseball knew the 8-ball K-Dubya was behind and would make it tougher for him to get fair for fair trades. If he keeps his head out of his ass, he could be truly great in this league.

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 12:51 PM) Just make sure the car isn't made in Mexico then. You have to define what you mean by "made in". No one "makes" a car from the ground up anymore, They all are buying components from around the world. In Reynosa, Mexico, across the river from me, are companies that make seats, wiper blades, stereos, batteries, key chain remotes, various lift motors, wiper motors, wires, cables, and a few more I am forgetting. But no cars are "made in" Reynosa.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 12:39 PM) You can't argue for legality because some is less bad than something else? I mean, if everything had to be good for you, cigarettes, cigars, TVs, and alcohol would be thrown right out the window and banned instantly, wouldn't they? Then you would have to accept an argument that alcohol is worse then pot so alcohol should also be banned. The comparisons are dangerous.

QUOTE(Soxy @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 12:31 PM) Come on, look at the pharmacological effects of weed versus booze--no contest that pot is less harmful. None. Less harmful then say carrots? Less harmful then water? Unless you are going to argue that pot is beneficial, these comparisons are meaningless.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 12:40 PM) I think the population in Texas and Florida is very mobile, and very different from the rest of the south (especially in Florida). But in places like Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Louisiana, etc.......it's like a different world from the north. The north has been moving south for decades. http://www.usnews.com/usnews/images/blogs/barone_flow.htm For some recent numbers. The rust belt continues to decline and the sun belt continues to increase.

With a more mobile population there is very little difference between the people living in the north and south. I can tell immediately if someone was raised in the north or south. The southern raised person will have more formal manners. They will address elders with a Mr. or Mrs. and say yes sir or yes man, hold doors and push in chairs.

Unless you are going to argue it is good for you, the a,lcohol comparison is worthless. But I'm glad you found the time to pick up that medical degree while in law school

QUOTE(YASNY @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 12:09 PM) Sheldon Silver, the Assembly Speaker of NY, was just giving a speech lauding Spitszer's accomplishments while he was governor. One of the things he mentioned? An ethics reform bill. Not surprising. I was watching a report on these sorts of scandals and according to the experts the individual usually hates that part of themselves and goes overboard trying to kill it. Kind of like making some cosmic amends.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 11:45 AM) ....Mary Ann from Gilligans Island wouldnt be in trouble. Wait, what is this thread about? Mary Ann was hot, but no match for Mrs. Howell . . .

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QUOTE(dasox24 @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 11:33 AM) I'm not even sure what just happened... think pot smoking under the parachute