Texsox

I guess I wasn't clear. SPAM, continue as always. Whatever was happening while a customer, continues after they leave. Incoming Legit email. Forwarded without attachments and in whatever form is easiest for the ISP. Or if it is easier and less expensive, some web based browser interface so they can look. Bottom way, allow the former customer some manner to see who is sending them legit traffic so they can advise that sender about their new address. No outgoing. I can't believe the same ISPs that can afford 30 day free trials will be crippled if they have to forward emails for 60 or 90 days. If their bandwidth is that tight how could they expand if new customers signed up?

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 25, 2007 -> 11:28 AM) The party ISN'T embracing him. The Republican voting base wants someone who they think can beat Hillary, and they think he's it. Plus, again, 9/11. Perhaps I should have said, I can't believe he is polling ahead of . . . ahead of . . . well anyone in that field.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 25, 2007 -> 10:11 AM) Two words... nine eleven The fact that he screwed the firefighters and site workers after the fact is irrelevant, because its not part of the national perception of his background. Yet. That is starting to change though, and I still feel like he is likely to fall down. I just can't believe the family values party is embracing him. He seems like Slick Willie II and I thought we had put that behind us.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Oct 25, 2007 -> 10:36 AM) Emerson, Lake and Palmer Brain Salad Surgery It will murder you, it murdered me We made it for our enemy Brain Salad Surgery Topic: Perversity Lou Reed Holly came from miami f.l.a. Hitch-hiked her way across the u.s.a. Plucked her eyebrows on the way Shaved her leg and then he was a she She says, hey babe, take a walk on the wild side Next: Computers

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Oct 25, 2007 -> 10:26 AM) For my small company. We receive 160k emails for 3000 users, 95.7% of the emails are garbage per day. To limit this, we have to employ a series of security devices and technologies so we are not liable for passing on malware or other items. All of these are at a pretty decent cost. 50k for a email security device, and you need at least 2 for redundancy. Plus subscription updates for virus updates. My T3 is 3500 for the email and browsing, again 2 for redunancy. 30k x 2 for the firewalls that protect the email servers. Then the costs of me to watch it, not that I complain about this. Now take those costs and expand them quite a bit, and you will see the difference in the margin of costs that the ISP has to deal with. Its not like the telephone company at all. The telephone company doesn't transport the phone call to the end, and then relay it across their network eating up their bandwidth and resources. They are able to deal with it via addressing at its perimeter. Phone numbers are also portable. If you really love your phone number, you can port it to another provider. Thats what I did to move to vonage. You can't do that with ISP's and how domain names work with email. There is a slight difference in the size and impact to bandwidth that email deals with. What about troubleshooting when you lose an email. Now you have to deal with 2 companies at least, to find what happened to your email. Each of them will be pointing to the other saying, tell them to fix it. Or we can take some time on our own, and make the changes. If you forwarded each customer who leaves three months, how much would you have to expand? They would not be able to send, so that cuts their traffic down, presumably in half, and it would not be permanent, only for a limited time. I could also see stripping any attachments. For that matter couldn't the forwarded message be dropped all the way down to a simple text message, Dear Former Customer We rejected an email from ABC@123.com to your former address. Please advise them of your new address. Plus, if traffic is coming into you with a faulty address, doesn't that take up bandwidth? Your malware and other programs would not change. When someone leaves, they will continue to receive spam mail for quite some time, so I don't see how that would change with forwarding. And if they do forget to inform someone they are changing ISPs when they receive the reminder and change those records, that cuts down on the future mail you have to deal with.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Oct 25, 2007 -> 10:09 AM) Sorry man. You must have posted it while I was typing. Go with his, folks. I wish I could remember the exact lyrics to an old John Anderson song Look Away. He had a great line about music row in Nashville. Instead Alan Jackson he's been readin' about Nashville and all The records that everybody's buyin' Says 'I'm a simple girl myself Grew up on Long Island' So she packs her bags to try to her hand Says this might be my last chance She's gone country, look at them boots She's gone country, back to her roots She's gone country, a new kind of suit She's gone country, here she comes Topic: One Night Stands

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Oct 25, 2007 -> 09:48 AM) You are also forgetting the big obvious difference between the two... One is run by the government, one is run by public industry. Once you leave as a customer, why should it be up to a for profit entity to take care of you? Are you willing to keep paying them for this extra service, until which time you quit forwarding? If the answer is no, it shouldn't be their burden. Telephone company does it. Isn't that the same?

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Oct 25, 2007 -> 09:37 AM) Antonio Carlos Jobim - "One Note Samba" This is just a little samba, built upon one note. Other notes are bound to follow, but the root is still that note New topic: notes From George Strait aka The Man of Country Music And emmylou got caught passing me a note Before the teacher took it, I read what she wrote. Do you love me, do you wanna be my friend? And if you do, well then dont be afraid to take me by the hand If you want to. I think this is how love goes, check yes or no. Next Topic: Shoes

QUOTE(YASNY @ Oct 25, 2007 -> 09:47 AM) I'm going to change my registration to Republican just so I can vote for Paul in the primary. You'll be more comfortable over there.

I hope so. If the GOP doesn't pick McCain, I pray one of the dark horses emerges. The front runners are leaving me a bit cold. I have the same reaction to Rudy that Kap does to Edwards.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Oct 25, 2007 -> 09:42 AM) If the concern is E-bills, go in and change your email address in your account. It is really simple. The same was true of snail mail, yet we found value in forwarding. Snail mail forwarding is much more costly than email forwarding. Why shouldn't our emails be considered on the same level with our telephone number and snail mail address? I believe, for most of us, our email is more important than at least one of the other two.

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Oct 25, 2007 -> 09:26 AM) Well, despite the fact that he doesn't have too many classic roles under his belt, he's still a legendary actor IMO. I could say the same for Jon Voight as well. Jon Voight may well be the most under rated actor of our generation.

I am still trying to understand how Rudy G is doing so well.

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Oct 25, 2007 -> 12:24 AM) Same dude. I always think that it starts with a K for some reason. IU would not place him in the same class as the others. He's a notch below IMHO.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Oct 24, 2007 -> 11:49 PM) That is not a class I look forward to taking I have Stats for Psychology Majors and the damn class is only offered during the day, and with the damn lab, it is impossible for me to take. Of course it is required for my major

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QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Oct 24, 2007 -> 10:01 PM) This isn't all that uncommon, actually. Plenty of people have slept on the two greatest movies of all time. What I'm really trying to say: Marlon Brando, Al Pacino, Robert Deniro, James Kaan, Robert Duvall, etc. Those guys can't act for sh*t. Why even bother tuning in? I'll bet that y'all are thoroughly familiar with "Home Alone", though. Is this like Sesame Street, which one doesn't belong? I'll take James Kaan

QUOTE(Middle Buffalo @ Oct 24, 2007 -> 11:26 PM) Only because you and the girls were talking about all the cute guys in the garage. Other than that, not gay. Actually it was more like, can you believe those guys? Keg stands?! Who's going to want to make out with some drunk guy?

I'm thinking of donating $25 per month and hopefully rolling it over as people repay. But honestly, I'm thinking of it as a donation, repayment would be a nice bonus. I also decided, for obvious reasons to work with someone about a two hour drive and a border crossing. Maybe I can break his legs if he doesn't pay back what will amount to a nice dinner for one less wine and gratuity.

I made a loan to David Vega Galindo. I'm starting with their smallest loan of $25, plus the $2.50 gimme that kiva asks for.

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QUOTE(YASNY @ Oct 24, 2007 -> 11:08 PM) Okay Tex, I'll give the candidates props when due. Edwards has a great hair cut. You can see that through the partisan eyes? Time after time they examine a politicians returns and they are misers. Here's one that actually gives at far better than American averages, and we still rip him. I wish he was well behind all the other millionaire politicians out there, but he isn't. I can respect that. I'm still not voting for him, but I wish more politicians felt the heat to give at his level.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Oct 24, 2007 -> 01:35 PM) I 10000000% agree. More conservative spending math at work

Is poverty the only area we should examine? Thompson wants to build a wall to stop illegals, how much of his money is he going to donate? How much has Bush donated for embryonic stem cell research? I'm not an Edwards supporter but the guy can "prove" his charitable position much better than most (all?) of the candidates. So the GOP supporters can parse their insults anyway they like (well Edwards started it ) but I think he's putting his pocketbook where his mouth is. Take a guy to task for the real stuff and give the candidates their props when they are due.

Wow, all the republicans here are in favor of handouts to fight poverty.