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Cabrera is a plus over Uribe, and that plus will be on the field for 132 more games than Jon. So I'm starting to feel a bit better, but damn it sucks to see Jon go. Shall we start taking bets on who will be the Kevin Butler of the 2005 Sox?

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Nov 19, 2007 -> 02:42 PM) Yup. Was having problems with urination for about a week. Nothing showed up in a sample, so I got the old "turn, cough, has anyone checked your prostate? bend over". At least he was gentle. He thinks its a case of prostatitis. Last time I had one I was remembering a Bill Engle routine which ends with "I have a Dentist"

QUOTE(The Critic @ Nov 19, 2007 -> 12:42 PM) Texas Flood - Stevie Ray Vaughn We All Can't Be From Texas - Willie Mach

I am not allowed to post to weather related threads between November and April

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Nov 19, 2007 -> 10:34 AM) I know someone who licked dogs*** off of someone's shoe for a dollar and a dare. And no one here is surprised that you would know someone like that.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Nov 19, 2007 -> 10:31 AM) On a related note, I got to start out my morning with "let's check out that prostate". Ugh. At your age?? Did you meet this "doctor" in a bar?

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Nov 19, 2007 -> 02:25 PM) I have taken every step to keep the wiggles and barney out of my house. I have introduced my son to Tom and Jerry, Woody Woodpecker, Chilli Willi, Droopy and the rest of the old time cartoons. Winnie the Pooh was a big hit in my house. Blustery Day was an all-time favorite

When a thread is created as a thank you service, and almost immediately someone decides to piss on the guy.

The Uribe may have made sense for a couple reasons How likely was this trade when they signed Uribe? The Halos may have wanted even more, but K-Dub could counter with we're happy with Uribe . . . Maybe the cash was to pay parts of Uribe's contract?

Thank you for all the effort and being a part of something I accepted would never happen in my lifetime, a World Series Championship. Enjoy the trip to sunny California.

QUOTE(Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 19, 2007 -> 01:12 PM) I'm not disagreeing that the wall would be a big waste. I just don't understand your basis for assuming that all this business would be lost. In my mind, there's been enough extremist debate about this (where a large and loud section of the US has stood firm on its position to shoot every illegal down if they try and cross) that any potential immigrant or tourist already has enough "ammo" to decide whether to continue to shop or vacation here. I don't see how making the actions physical would make it worse. Right or wrong, Mexican nationals see the wall as an insult. The projected impact is very troubling to say the least. I see interviews on TV, hear them on radio, and see them in print. But no one is talking about that on the national level. It's as if we don't matter at all. It is rare to find any elected official on the border in support of the wall. Tourism is this area's #1 industry. The wall may directly hurt our ecotourism by blocking access to very desirable areas near the river. It may hurt our International Tourism. It makes the area seem dangerous. In no way does it help.

We have to take care of our financial ship. Not tying their hands tells me these candidates will not dismiss a choice in advance without knowing the situation.

I object to Garland as being mediocre. I wish I could find a link, but it is not like half the pitchers have winning and half have losing records. IIRC less than 33% of mlb starting pitchers have career winning records. I wish I could find the number.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071117/D8SVCDSG2.html

QUOTE(The Critic @ Nov 19, 2007 -> 11:14 AM) Tread The Floods - Trivium Flood - Jars of Clay

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 19, 2007 -> 12:05 PM) Uribe can play 3B, SS and 2B and hit with power. He is a somewhat ideal, though very expensive utility option. Expensive is relative to the rest of the payroll. But you are right.

If you think there will only be minor economic damage, you really have no idea about border life. Read some of the clips I posted. Holy Week, Christmas, etc. are huge down here. Miller International Airport has a waiting list some days, especially around back to school, for private airplane hanger space. Again, when people see Mexicans, how do they know if they are legal or illegal? When a restaurant in Philly can receive international coverage for only serving English speaking patrons, that is what foreign tourist read. It's about marketing on some of this stuff. The wall is a colossal blunder on our part. It hurts our, US, American businesses. Harms the environment, and will not solve the problem it is set out to do.

Kenny wakes up with a terrible hangover, reads the newspaper and screams "Wrong Cabrera! I wanted Miguel"

QUOTE(dmbjeff @ Nov 19, 2007 -> 11:40 AM) It's too bad KW couldn't have just thrown Uribe in on the deal and we take back some over priced useless guy of their's. Sadly, that may be what the cash is for, to pay our now utility infielder.

QUOTE(dmbjeff @ Nov 19, 2007 -> 11:29 AM) I'm also very suprised so many people here are dissing the deal. I think OCab, as he will now be known around here, is a good player and a SIGNIFICANT upgrade over Uribe. Uribe moving back to his original role in 2004 of Utility INF might be best for him. I hope they can trade him somehow though and get that 4.5 million off the books, but I'm not sure how quickly you can trade guys who you just resigned. There have been deals contingent on guys signing a new contract, so I imagine there isn't a rule. But I'm just speculating.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 19, 2007 -> 11:28 AM) I know it. But even in a win-win, someone is giving money to someone else, and someone if making money on that price. It may be a win-win overall, but overall, im making money. Right, but if you are always lying and cheating people, how long will you be in business? If you are dealing with soemone who has screwed over three other people in your position, how will you treat that person? What if the person has never screwed over someone and you could trust him?

QUOTE(BigEdWalsh @ Nov 19, 2007 -> 11:27 AM) Same here. A nice upgrade at SS. And if we do sign Hunter, much stronger defensively up the middle. Up the middle includes the guy who is most in the middle, the pitcher. I agree in principle, up the middle is the most important and this is an upgrade 132 games per year.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 19, 2007 -> 11:25 AM) Yes you shouldnt knowingly f*** someone over, thats basic business ethics. But also everyone is out to make good for themselves over everyone else. You'll see for yourself if you ever go into the business world. Repeat business can still be achieved while winning a deal. There is a difference between winning a deal and f***ing someone over. Be in business for 25 years and you will see it for yourself. There is this animal called a win-win.

If there is more than $1,000,000. trading hands, the commissioner will have to approve. Which he will

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 19, 2007 -> 11:16 AM) Its business, ethics really dont play a huge part, you are supposed to not be retarded and do your homework. It still didnt stop Jon from being a horse though, and now our pen better be extremely good, because they are going to get alot of work this year with unproven guys in the rotation. IIRC, mlb has specific rules regarding reporting a player's physical condition. Plus, as noted, it's a small world and if you screw a couple teams, other teams will stop dealing with you.