Texsox

I must be missing your point, it appears you are are saying If we are going to accept war, we have to accept depictions of violence in our entertainment. If we are going to accept that adults enjoy sex, that pornography is ok. A pivotal factor here that needs to be discussed is this, is mankind becoming more or less violent? Once that is secured then we can look at the effects of violent books, songs, movies, games, etc. Certainly we have developed horrific methods to kill many more people at a time. Where ancient man had to be satisfied with killing one enemy at a time, we now can wipe entire cities off the map. Where we once needed to travel thousands of miles and engage the enemy face to face, we can now press a button and kill someone thousands of miles away. But that does not answer the core question, are we more or less violent? I believe we are more violent than at anytime in the history of civilization. Perhaps there is some primal energy that is not released when we pick up our steaks at Jewel. Is depictions of violence making that worse, much research seems to agree. Before I drift to far away, I'm wondering if I am still missing you point.

It appeared as if you compared the actual war with entertainment choices. It would be possible to compare the depiction of real war and TV content. The answer then would be to limit the war coverage and perhaps not allowing younger adults and kids to view the war coverage. That is different than editoralizing on sending people off to battle. It would be very consistent to believe it is ok to send soldiers off to stop a genocide, and not allowing children to see the violence.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Oct 27, 2007 -> 03:34 PM) I was thinking the same thing when the Pads signed him. I still wouldn't have a problem with the Sox picking him up to a one year deal worth 750K -1.5M with some incentives if he is decent and starts that he would make a bit more. He has had good years and obviously is coming off two straight down seasons but he is solid defensively and has shown if he can hit for any sort of an average that he will post good periphs (OBP and a solid OPS for a 2nd baseman). I think he'd be a good guy to help push Richar. He should be on the radar, but I think I will be sad if that's the best we come up with.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Oct 27, 2007 -> 03:29 PM) And then telling her she was responsible for paying for it after she recieves her next bill, AND having a supervisor backing her up on it is pretty amazing. Amazing to the point of not being believable. I'm guessing there is more to the story. Those calls are taped and they can go back and listen.

Actually I thought this was excellent journalism. Someone was having a problem with a major corporation. The networks could put their muscle behind the person getting screwed over. It's the classic David vs. Goliath. How many other people were spared this crap?

I wouldn't be surprised if he gave to a REP as well. It's an industry, just like a guy switching from Pepsi to Coke.

QUOTE(Alpha Dog @ Oct 27, 2007 -> 09:42 AM) Yeah, because we all know those daily death counts just scream 'positive coverage'. Those deaths should not be covered, it makes the war look bad, and dishonors their sacrifice.

QUOTE(Alpha Dog @ Oct 26, 2007 -> 06:53 PM) You know, when I first bring up media not covering certain actions or words of Dem politicians, I get "they are local level pols" or "That is a governor, not a Senator". Now you have a national level guy in Biden, and it's "He's not a major enough player". Way to keep moving the goal posts there guys. I dno't care if he is Tancredo level in his poll numbers, he is still running for Pres, that is certainly big enough. Liberals own the media and conservatives have never figured out how to get a foothold. Thank GOD for talk radio.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Oct 26, 2007 -> 02:09 PM) It's always ALWAYS different. A (D) says it, it's passed over, a ® says it, it's front page NYT specials.

I understand billing the people, but wait for their insurance, and if they were not insured, suck it up AT&T.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Oct 26, 2007 -> 04:31 PM) This Long-Distance Dedication goes out all the other really old SoxTalkers. Released in 1968 by the Foundations, and hitting number 3 on the Billboard Hot 100, it's Build Me Up, Buttercup. Why do you build me up Buttercup, baby just to let me down and mess me around? And then worst of all you never call, baby, hen you say you will, but I love you still. Next: salad Elvis, who I am certain covered someone Polk Salad Annie, gator got your granny Topic: Jilted at the alter

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Oct 26, 2007 -> 05:01 PM) Hello this is AT&T. My house burned down, I just wanted to let you know so we can cancel the billing. Did you save the receiver. Well no, thats not what I was thinking about. Well that will be 300 dollars, how would you like to pay for it. Nice customer service AT&T. You suck. What a load of crap.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Oct 26, 2007 -> 12:37 PM) FZ (yet again), Camarillo Brillo She had a snake for a pet and an amulet And she was breeding a dwarf but she wasnt done yet She had gray-green skin. A doll with a pin I told her she was alright but I couldnt come in Still on vampires Vampires? A Little Neil Young I'm a vampire, babe, suckin' blood from the earth I'm a vampire, baby, suckin' blood from the earth. Well, I'm a vampire, babe, sell you twenty barrels worth. I had to google that one. Anyone else with Vampire?

Going slightly off because my son just discoved Warren Zevon He's the hairy, hairy gent, who ran amok in Kent. Lately he's been overheard in Mayfair. You better stay away from him, he'll rip your lungs out Jim. Huh, I'd like to meet his tailor. and aren't werewolves and vampires close enough? next Topic: Censorship

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Oct 26, 2007 -> 12:17 PM) Robert Palmer?!?? I guess I'm just not up on his post-Zeppelin solo stuff. . . Big Strong Man (My Brother Sylveste - Irish Trad.) Have you heard about the big strong man? He lived in a caravan. Have you heard about the Jeffrey Johnson fight? Oh, Lord what a hell of a fight. You can take all of the heavyweights you've got. We've got a lad that can beat the whole lot. He used to ring bells in the belfry, Now he's gonna fight Jack Demspey. Next: Vampires Plant, Palmer, what's the dif? Maybe I'll find something by Emerson, Lake, and Plant next

These are tough laws. I see the need, at times, and other times it seems wrong.

QUOTE(BigEdWalsh @ Oct 26, 2007 -> 11:05 AM) Yep. In fact, the Andrews Sisters did a version. I think Bette Midler did too. I can only think of Robert Palmer I'm in the mood, I'm in the mood, I'm in the mood for a melody Next topic: Big Guys

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Oct 26, 2007 -> 11:29 AM) You just can't help but laugh at this one. Nice try. Next time he should just use different voices.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gjiKlNl...zW4zqAespeZ7g7w

I keep thinking Glenn Miller, In the Mood, but are there lyrics?

QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Oct 25, 2007 -> 06:02 PM) They are all creations of the Devil. Designed to drink ink.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Oct 26, 2007 -> 10:33 AM) kids > pets > kids' stuff Unless your house is literally on fire I can't imagine someone just saying "just leave the dogs". I can't either, but if the rescue crews are there evacuating you, I can't see staying and trying to find the cat. I can't see risking anyone's life for a pet. But some do put human life and animal life on the same level.

QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Oct 26, 2007 -> 06:37 AM) Man boobs can't be seen on television but damnit if it isn't seen as a good and patriotic mission by a man of God for the US to send in the military to fight and die in a grisly foreign war in far off lands in the Middle East. It always boggles my mind that many (not all but the vast majority) of the people who want decency in TV, movies, video games etc. somehow conveniently miss the fact that they also promote actual warfare compared to pixelated and controlled (i.e. wrestling) violence and indecency. The level of necessity differentiates going to war and entertainment. It is a bad analogy, and I'm a little surprised you would have used it.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Oct 25, 2007 -> 08:41 AM) If they want to do something about decency on TV, they could cancel 90% of the crap that is on the air right now!

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Oct 26, 2007 -> 10:25 AM) No doubt. We don't have any kids, so our dog would be priority #1, actually. F*ck everything else (clothing, material items, etc). How anyone could think otherwise is beyond me. Your kids become the bigger priority and their needs. When you are chasing around finding their stuff and making certain they are out of danger, the pets come second.