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QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ May 14, 2006 -> 11:01 AM) Id rather use monies being wasted on educating, providing health care and welfare for a group of people who don't even belong in this country in the first place. So, explain how your program works? What are you doing with the existing population, where are the replacement workers coming from, and what are the budget implications?

It's sad when citizens are expected to toe the party line and support everything a party does. If someone wants to call it liberal hypocrisy to now support everything, so be it. I am scared when people stop thinking for themselves and just pledge allegiance to one party and everything they do.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ May 14, 2006 -> 10:41 AM) Well at least you acknowledge that they're costing us billions of dollars. Now how about using those funds to deal with our own poor people instead of letting Vicente Fox export his own poverty problem to the US? As I stated, the costs would be there regardless of documented or undocumented. Our unemployement rate remains low, and has been for decades. Leading me to conclude that we actually need these workers. So how about using those fence funds to deal with our own poor people?

Tough on crime by executing criminals for any offenses, and toss in the occassional assassination of a foreign leader, and you'd have a great day. So why is it we try and stop other countries who do that stuff?

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ May 14, 2006 -> 10:27 AM) You're arguments are reduced to making fun of others in this issue and that's what's truly funny. Reagan didn't solve anything with his amnesty, he made the situation far worse. Bush is taking the right step forward with his guest worker program but thats all it is is a first step. You have to have a stick to go along with the carrot. Those "harmless" farmers and gardners are costing states billions of dollars a year, destroying the lives of farmers and ranchers who reside along the border and allow the Mexican government to export its problem to the United States. But you're too busy laughing to see any of this. :rolly And a guest worker program, that allows for workers that America needs, is controlled, and allows for citizenship after a set criteria is met, solves this without turning the border into a prison zone. It allows for the economic benefits that border communities derive from Mexican tourists. It allows for the labor that American industries need. Yes, poor people cost us billions of dollars, no matter their citizenship. Poor people don't pay much, if any, in taxes, so that is a false argument. It isn't their legal status that costs billions, it's their income. Replace undocumented with documented, and the cost is still there. Make immigration easier, resulting in less resources necessary to enforce the law, costs us less. This isn't about securing the borders, it's about controlling Mexican immigration. That can be accomplished without spending billions on a 2000 mile long fence. This issue has been around forever. Interesting timing that conservatives all of a sudden want to make it our nation's #1 problem.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ May 14, 2006 -> 10:22 AM) They should have flown him out to one of our "secret prisons" in the Middle East or Eastern Europe and let some CIA attack dogs have their way with him but I guess this will do. Our constitution really takes away all your fun. Ironically, you would have a much better time working for the types of regimes the US is fighting. Torture? Check. Spying on citizens? Check. Military patrols in civilian areas? Check.

^^^^^^^^ LMAO. Why did stopping Mexican poor people become our worse problem requiring billions of dollars and resources? Perhaps Republicans are looking for something to divert our attention from all the legal troubles at the White House? Reagan solved this by offering amnesty. Bush offered a guest worker program. Conservatives are so desperate for something to divert attention they are fighting the boogey men. We need a fence to save us from illiterate Mexcians or else our society is doomed, doomed we say! Don't stop and think that the worst terrorists in our history where either US citizens, trained by the US military, or came in through Canada. Doomed if we don't build a wall. We will be destroyed by gardners and farm workers

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She looks like you :-) I pray she grows out of that :-)

QUOTE(samclemens @ May 14, 2006 -> 08:51 AM) http://www.nysun.com/article/32651 "It was President Clinton who signed into law the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act of 1994, after it was passed in both the House and Senate by a voice vote. That law is an act "to make clear a telecommunications carrier's duty to cooperate in the interception of communications for law enforcement purposes, and for other purposes." The act made clear that a court order isn't the only lawful way of obtaining call information, saying, "A telecommunications carrier shall ensure that any interception of communications or access to call-identifying information effected within its switching premises can be activated only in accordance with a court order or other lawful authorization." liberal hypocrisy, straight up. Do conservatives support everything Republicans have ever done?

The only way we can keep terrorists from taking out freedoms, is if we voluntarily give them up The rights are only there to protect guilty people. We don't need freedom of speech if we don't say things the government doesn't like. We don't need legal protection from the government searching our homes anytime they like, if we don't have anything in our homes that the government doesn't like. We don't need our guns, the government has plenty. If the government telle me I don't need rights to stay alive, then let's give them up.

Since this fence will never be erected this is pointless. Y'all keep swatting mosquitos with elephant rifles. A guest worker program makes these people legal, which viola eliminate the need for us to live in a prison, because in your words, their first act wouldn't violate our laws. But since it's what Bush wants to do, and y'all are always anti-Bush, I guess you just have to fight everything he proposes. Support the President

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QUOTE(kapkomet @ May 13, 2006 -> 09:55 PM) WOOHOOOO! ONE STEP CLOSER TO IMPEACHMENT!

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ May 13, 2006 -> 07:17 PM) My cousin worked there about 10 years ago and said it was perhaps the funnest job he ever held. Mentioned several times how his friends and him would typically steal hundreds of dollars from their post every week. As well as hitting on women all day while not doing much work at all. Guess things changed from the time he worked and you did. It can be the department. I was in ride operations and had a blast, a buddy worked food ops and hated it. I opened and hit the golf course every afternoon.

QUOTE(YASNY @ May 13, 2006 -> 09:27 AM) Whatever it takes to secure our border. Secure from what? You honestly don't think that erecting a 2000 mile wall, costing hundreds of billions of dollars, is an over reaction? Are we so afraid of illiterate Mexican peasants we need a wall to protect us?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ May 12, 2006 -> 04:28 PM) Texas to get nation's largest wind farm. I thought Rush was moving to Texas. Seriously that is right where I live and creates an interesting dilema. The area is moving away from agriculture and towards tourism, especially eco-tourism and birders are the #1 growth industry. The World Birding Headquarters is located here. It is the spot in North America for birding. My understanding is the turbines will be in an area that isn't visited much, so visually it shouldn't be much of a problem, but promoting the area as the center of the birding universe and having a bird shop-o-matic spinning, seems to be at odds.

Welcome to fatherhood, the coolest thing in the world.

Please keep the following people in your prayers Rowand44 and his family especially his mom John Rivera and his family Kap and his new baby, what a blessing

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ May 13, 2006 -> 03:21 AM) My mom has breast cancer. My parents have known for about a month but they didn't tell me cause they didn't want me to get freaked out with finals and s*** coming up. It was such a weird feeling when she told me, I didn't know what to do. Sorry to hear that.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ May 12, 2006 -> 05:01 PM) Agree on the guest workers........then put up a nice high wall to keep those who still want to break the law out. Do you want to do the entire 2,000 miles?

I believe it is fitting that one American was able to spare his life. One, what a powerful testimony to our society and way of life. Around the world, and especially in the Middle East, a common citizen would never weild that kind of life or death power in their hands.

QUOTE(Steff @ May 12, 2006 -> 08:37 PM) Yikes.. talk about making more of something. Kinda sorta but not really related... when are the Soxtalk awards and I was dared to ask if Post Whore of the Year be added? Classic. No one makes that maneuver better. In fact it should be known as getting "steffed on". Awesome. Kinda sorta but not really related . . . the upgrade changed slightly the ignore function. To use the feature, go to Enter the screen name of the person you wish to ignore. If you do it properly, it should look like this

I made it through the Memorial service and Rosary. As you can imagine, being young and popular there was a huge, over flowing crowd. I've been asked to speak tomorrow at the funeral and have been wrestling with words for the past couple hours. Here's what I came up with. The family asked for a Scouting theme. He is being buried in his Scout uniform.