Texsox

This is the same guy who was hiding in a celler? Yeah, he's not afraid.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 07:59 AM) Interesting indeed, but Not Threadworthy. So Sayeth SoxTalk. Mod Tex, if you could move Scofflaw Tex's post into the Politics Clusterf*** thread, it would be much appreciated. By somebody. When did the Dems and GOP start fighting a different war? This isn't about politics, this is about our efforts to win in Iraq and get the hell out.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/02/ira...s.ap/index.html One way to beat the press.

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QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 11:44 AM) I'm just saying silvy and carmen are just throwing things out there, they don't know what's going on anymore then we do. Are you saying that people who have a budget, resources, and time to research contacts and develop relationships within the organization know the same as you do? Where do you get your information?

What I was thinking as I wrote this was how we do share this angst everyday, but in a different way. If she were a poet, a song writer, a painter, or worked in another media, we see this pain laid out for us in song and story, poems and paintings. So maybe this should be published. Maybe it ads to the range of human emotions that touch us each day. It pains me to think of a 9-year old who has such evil shooting into her live. I hurts to thing of her with such hate. I pray it is temporary and doesn't eat away the innocence of youth. Reporters and editors have a tough job in this. Let's take the situation that the editor agrees with y'all that the letter should not be published, and doesn't. They look like they were "protecting" the murdering SOB. Publish and they look like they are exploiting a 9-year olds pain and suffering.

QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 11:56 PM) ANYTHING (almost) for the almighty green! I know a couple shops here that stopped offering them. The shops right across in Mexico are full color, 1000 @ $32 US. The local guys are giving up listening to customers complain.

What is a testimony to our society is being a police officer isn't on the list of top 10 most dangerous professions. For the most past we do have a respect for law enforcement. It's tragic in that it is so uncommon.

QUOTE(Steff @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 10:59 AM) It could be... but it wasn't. So I clarified, twice. Tex's actions are calculated so his opinion is moot. I'm clarifying for you.. that I was referring to those researching a potential career as a pharmacist. You done? What do you mean by calculated? That I actually think before typing? That I actually would like to convey meaning and carry on a conversation?

QUOTE(Steff @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 09:52 AM) Then go work somewhere where it's legal to refuse to fill a script of something you are against. QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 10:04 AM) 'kay...sometimes it's easier said than done. QUOTE(Steff @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 10:26 AM) What's the difficulty when researching a potential career - one that requires planning and schooling - not to pick one that will test your morals...? One doesn't wake up one morning, decide to be a pharmacist, and hop in the car for an interview at the local Walgreens.. See y'all later. I see where this one is going.

QUOTE(Wong & Owens @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 10:47 AM) Not at a public hospital he can't. I guess the best solution is to ensure that if there is a pharmacist working who would not dispense the morning-after pill due to religious beliefs, the pharmacy will have another pharmacist on site that will. Everyone wins? First off, that makes a lot of sense in pharmacies with more than one pharmacist on duty. The next area gets a little tricky. A Doctor is obliged to prescribe treatments that in their opinion work and first of all will "do no harm". If the Doctor believes the treatment will "do harm" he has no obligation to offer that treatment. So if the Doctor believes a blood transfusion will do harm, he doesn't have to offer it. So yes, he can be within full compliance with his Hippocratic Oath, be in a public hospital, and not prescribe that treatment. The patient has the opportunity if they like, to seek out a second opinion. You can't walk in and demand to have your apendix removed. So you can't demand a treatment, and the Doctor doesn't have to offer a treatment that they think will do harm. How would a Doctor be forced to offer a treatment? Now, this does open the Doctor up for a malpractice suit, and he will have to defend that his treatment offered a chance of cure and did not veer too far from established medical practices.

QUOTE(Steff @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 10:45 AM) And pharmacists who have been in the field for years would just now be researching if they want to be pharmacists...? Clearly I was referring to those not yet licensed. OK. But aren't these pharmacists already in the field? I was replying to these pharmacists should just quit and shouldn't have been pharmacists to begin with. They have a legit right to work to get the law changed if that is what they believe. They may loose, but citizens have that right in this country.

QUOTE(Steff @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 10:38 AM) What part of "when researching a potential career - one that requires planning and schooling - not to pick one that will test your morals" wasn't clear...? What part of this law and pill wasn't around 10 years ago so how were pharmacists suppose to factor it into their decision? My son is going into Psychology. What advances in the field, and laws that will be enacted in 2015, should he be researching before making his decision?

QUOTE(Wong & Owens @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 10:23 AM) The laws are clear, so those people should seek different jobs--period. If pharmacists are allowed to break laws based on their own beliefs, where does it end? Do we let Christian Scientist doctors treat patients only through means that coincide with their beliefs? No. I couldn't actually kill an animal, so I don't work ina meat processing plant. I hate guns, so I won't pursue a career in law enforcement. I don't believe that marijuana should be illegal, so I am not in government. You play by the rules of the game, or you get out and go someplace else. These are new laws that need time to shake out. Sometimes we pass dumb laws and there are better solutions. Every MD is not required to perform abortions. Restaurants are given the right to refuse service. Evil can refuse to print a flier for an gun control rally or the opening of an abortion clinic. A book store can refuse to carry pornography. Doctors can refuse to write the perscription. Psychiatrists can refuse to treat certain disorders. If you check yourself into a Catholic Hospital, they will not perform an abortion, which is consistent with their beliefs. And yes, a Christian Scientist Doctor can refuse to offer treatments inconsistent with his beliefs.

QUOTE(Steff @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 10:26 AM) What's the difficulty when researching a potential career - one that requires planning and schooling - not to pick one that will test your morals...? One doesn't wake up one morning, decide to be a pharmacist, and hop in the car for an interview at the local Walgreens.. Are you suggesting they should have thought A. Someday, someone may invent a pill or procedure that I may find morally upsetting. B. The government may pass a law making it illegal for me to not dispense the pill. I think that's a little unfair.

It's the application that some pharmacists find objectionable. The best analogy I can offer is the same device used for liposuction, could also be used for an abortion. A surgeon may wish to use that to improve the appearance of someone, but not to perform an abortion. It is one thing to prevent a pregnancy via birth control pills, it is another to terminate an existing pregnancy. It's a moral decision I can understand some people taking. I would not have a problem dispensing the pill, but respect those individuals that have a moral objection to helping an abortion.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 08:32 AM) And then have an extended discussion thread about how this is George Bush's fault for underfunding internet addiction research because he is an anti-semite. I believe this belongs in the political thread. Besides, it is really Al Gore's fault, he invented the internet. But of course conservatives want to make everything about Bush.

I doubt any pharmacy is going to risk their license to operate over this law.

New York Times Link Instead of heading to the Doctors office, I wonder if we could just web cast a session, form a message board to discuss treatment, maybe post some links to addiction recovery sites . . .

http://www.nbc10.com/news/5438681/detail.html Photo Linked Here Basically the couple were easily seen from the street. They seem to be having sex in a window. The student snapped a picture, posted it on his personal web site which is University hosted, and now risks suspension.

I think Walgreen is following the best course of helping those people get licensed in a state where they can refuse to aid in an abortion.

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