Texsox

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 08:37 AM) Yeah, if anyone is the kings of overreacting to a common activity... Pitchers shag balls in the OF all of the time. Pay attention at a BP and you will see that. They do it while they stretch or work on long toss. AL pitchers always dream of being "real" baseball players

QUOTE(winodj @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 08:25 AM) So first it was about the money. Then he abused her. Then he denied her care. Now he sleeps around on her. Is it me, or is every stop being pulled out to demonize this guy? And should someone have to live a life of paralysis indefinitely because his wife is brain dead? He waited 8 years before he asked to have the feeding tube removed. Eight years is a long enough time to establish whether or not there is hope. Seven levels of judicial review have now agreed with Michael Schiavo that her wishes should be honored. The parents don't. It was all those things. To further the conversation, it doesn't make sense to keep rehashing. I do not think it is possible to examine *his* wishes, without examining his motivation. Remember the basic situation here is he wants her dead. If he wasn't involved, none of this would be going on. The courts are defending his wishes as her guardian. There is no writen record of her wishes, only the word of a guy who would like her dead. Let's say a miracle happens and she sits up. Who does he live with? His wife or his girlfriend and kids? He should not be making this decision. Keeping her alive, at worse, is no benefit to her; at best spares her life. Killing her at worse, kills a human and at best ??

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 11:31 PM) Yeah, Ladies love confidence..... Confidence and BIG COCKS. So here's my advice: Go to the supermarket by yourself an appropriately sized and shaped fruit or vegetable, and then throw it down your shorts in a nice banana hammock. I know baggy pants are in these days, so you might have to rub up against the girl while you are asking her for her to notice. The key is to only rub your junk on her just enough for her to notice. Too much and you'll 1) creep her out, and 2) bruise your fruit or vegetable so that you can't have it for lunch later. So this Roman soldier asks his buddies for help with the ladies, and surprisingly receives the exact same advice as above. Fortunately for him the style of the day were tight speedo style shorts, and the outline of the potato (potatoe for GOPers) was clearly defined in his shorts. After walking through the marketplace, and receiving nothing but laughs, he returned to his buddy and asked for more advice. After carefully looking over the soldier and his potato, his buddy replied. Let's try this again, only this time, put the potato in the front.

The official reason for including solitaire in early versions of windows was to help people learn to use a mouse. People learn faster and more completely when they are involved in a game. What this means for businesses is they could put together a trivia type game to help employees learn products. Games could be designed to stress safety issues unique to that facility. Lan games can be used to develop team work, reduce stress, etc.

QUOTE(winodj @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 09:47 PM) If death is not the end, I see a benefit to this. Assuming that she said that she didn't want to be kept on life support in this kind of situation, which her husband and six levels of judicial review determined, her wishes would finally be honored. And this is about her, right? And her right to life and her right to die? Or maybe this isn't about life at all. Or maybe there'd still be a baby alive in Houston after the hospital took her off life support, against her parents wishes, because the money ran out. If we were certain those were her wishes, I would agree 100% and be writing that she should be euthanized in a painless manner, instead of slowly dehydrated. But the only person who will benefit from her death, is the same person who is pushing for her to die. If he wasn't involved in this, there would be no controversy. Keeping her alive, at worse, provides no benefit to Terri. Killing her, at worse, kills a human being. We should always error on the side of caution. As a parent I can not imagine the terror of having someone killing your baby. Especially when that someone is living in a new home with his common law wife and children. The guy has moved on. Let the parents care for their child. They raised her and have much more invested than he does. Interesting point regarding divorce Juggernaut. I assume that Florida is a no fault state. I wonder if this was in a state where you must have grounds, if that could have happened. I still can not agree with that process. There are some people **cough cough Hillary cough cough* who do not seem to mind their spouses sleeping around. Sweet irony then of conservatives pushing for divorce.

QUOTE(winodj @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 09:00 PM) http://www.responseunlimited.com/datacard.lasso?list=2968 Gerald Kelly, Theological Studies 1950. I can certainly understand that view, in fact I agree that is the worse case scenario. But notice there is not harm to the patient. He mentions no benefit. So worse case there is no benefit to her in keeping her alive. What is the worse case scenario to standing by and allowing her to die? Again, what is the benefit to Terri in allowing her to die? What is the potential harm in allowing her to die? I have yet to hear anyone describe a benefit to Terri in allowing her to die? If there is no benefit, but a slim to no chance of a brilliant and miraculous upside in keeping her alive, isn't the safest route choosing life? Don't we want our government to choose life for it's citizens?

QUOTE(winodj @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 05:54 PM) That was the 500th post in this thread. Er, 501st. did you count them all?

QUOTE(winodj @ Mar 20, 2005 -> 08:42 AM) He pursued an aggressive course of therapy for five years. With no improvement, and according to every medical professional who has reviewed this that I've seen, no chance of improvement. If she's in a perpetual vegetative state with no hope of improvement, why would you try to get her further therapy? How is she being harmed by keeping her alive? Who benefits if she is dead? The very person who had the final say. That seems a perverse situation. This isn't a grieving spouse, weeping at her bedside. This is a guy who goes home to his common law wife and kids, while the parents mourn. I wonder if he will even allow them at the funeral. He had them barred from her bedside. From what I've heard, whenever she started to show signs of improvement, he changed therapists and treatments. If he cares about her so much, why is he living and making babies with someone else? We're looking at a guy who is planning a wedding for 5 minutes after the funeral v. parents who desperately want to care for their child. As a parent, I can truly feel their pain and it is an easy opinion for me. Ask anyone who has had children, you do not realize the bonds until you see them, or feel them kick. Again I ask. Eventually she is going to die, how is she harmed by delaying, if she is as bad as he claims. And how does she benefit? He should walk away, get divorced, and allow the parents to care for her. The government should never decide death for one of it's citizens. It is far easier for me to sympathies with the parents then a man who went ahead and started a new life. Her parents are willing to take the burden from him. Some would call it grandstanding, and there are some people who probably are, but for many in this, they are trying to save her life. And among the people who would prefer to see her die, some of those are grandstanding as well. And death by dehydration is a terrible way to die. We treat stray dogs and mass murderers better. Opening up another can of worms. If the kill her crowd wins, let the poor woman die a peaceful death by lethal injection. Most people would at least give a stray dog a bowl of water.

I was listening to Hannity this afternoon and he had a "Noble Award Nominee" Doctor who has spent 10 hours with her and he claims, she can follow objects with her eyes, moves from side to side. He claims will therapy she could be walking and functioning. This seems way optimistic to me based on what other Doctors have reported. He did mention some other things and a couple things that seem wrong to me. Every time a nursing home suggested therapy, the husband would move her to another home. If there is no hope, why was she moved from home to home? Two nurses have signed affidavits that she has chewed and swallowed food on her own. When they mentioned it to the hubby, he moved her to another facility. He is living with and has two children by another woman. Why doesn't he just let go, and allow her parents to care for her? That still makes no sense to me. She suffered through several infections and he would not authorize even giving her antibiotics. He would not allow the facility to take her outside? What harm could there possibly be in taking her outside? Was he afraid she would run away? I am rapidly losing any sympathy for this guy. I know the parents are probably clinging to too small a hope, but this guy seemingly doesn't care. I hope this hasn't turned into a pissing contest on this guy's part. It feels weird way over here with the GOP I feel like I crashed a party and I'm waiting to be kicked out.

Think the Doc will suggest treatment in Vienna?

QUOTE(Queen Prawn @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 04:55 PM) I, too, am uncool and I am cool with that lol. Go put on your tiara and PLaY PRiNCeSs with Br!an

QUOTE(Iwritecode @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 02:07 PM) The biggest problem is that some kids get so used to it that they start turning in homework assignments with these "misspellings". That is a problem. They also start to buy lite beer. I read an interesting article way back when regarding Sesame Street and how it negatively effected my generation because they couldn't stay focused for more than 40 seconds. TV hasn't always been helpful either.

QUOTE(Steff @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 02:11 PM) Good grief.. Christopher Reeve could communicate. And while Terry makes noise and appears to look at people when they talk to her.. there is no evidence that she has any ability to communicate nor any proof that she can remember things for more than 5 minutes as that part of her brain is liquid. The point I clumsily was trying to make is a feeding tube may or may not be considered a life support device depending on circumstances and to be careful when writing a living will. Likewise, someone in a coma would also need a feeding tube. A narrowly defined living will may not reflect your wishes. I believe the totality of the person is needed to determine when a feeding tube is considered live support. I 100% would respect her wishes to not be kept alive in the state she is in, if she had clearly stated those wishes. Absent of any written statements by her, I do not see any harm in keeping her alive.

Now I see how you were looking at this. I can definatlly see your point. What I think makes this case unique is the lack of a written document that proves what she wants and the finality of death. I know some are trying to link it with the whole pro life issue. It is interesting that many anti-death penalty Dems are on the let her die side. It seems to me that she is getting a death sentance and we aren't even being as kind to her as we would a mass murderer. Dehydration (not starvation) is going to take her life and it will be a terrible death. I've read too many accounts of patients who Doctors said could not hear, in fact could. Patients who Doctors said couldn't feel pain, could. If she is in as bad a shape as the pro-death crowd believes, she isn't in any more pain or suffering by keeping the feeding tube in place. If she is functioning at the level her parents are desperate to believe, she is not only not being harmed by the feeding tube, but any rational human would agree keeping her alive is the right thing to do. The chart as I see it. Husband's view: Feeding tube: Waste of time No feeding tube: quickens death Parent's view: Feeding tube: sustains life No feeding tube: murder Where does she lose by being kept alive? Where does she gain by dying?

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 01:55 PM) God damn hippie. I hate the way you talk, mang! Peace

Full disclosure: I was a full fledge chess geek in grade school through college and much of that was traced to the Fisher v. Spasky World Chess Championships. I think I have played through those games a hundred times. I even (major geek) went to the 5th grade costume party as a chess player. (Oh how did I ever manage to reproduce). Having said that, Bobby Fisher is a complete, antisemitic, psycho and needs therapy, not a country.

Every generation has it's own phrases, I think it's really hip and groovy that the hip cats of today are what's happening. What makes this unique is we are raising the first generation of instant communication babies. This is the first generation who are growing up with IM, message boards, and relying so heavily on written communications. It only makes sense that a unique language would develop. Right On!

But that doesn't explain the more obnoxious pwn3d

QUOTE(flippedoutpunk @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 12:57 PM) From what i remember it comes from a programming error from some old computer game where when you play online and you kill somebody the automatic message said "(Players Name) was pwned by (Other Players Name)" I cant rememeber the video game though.. Warcraft was the game.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 12:51 PM) With all the hand wringing going on about BMac, I thought I'd make a couple of points. All we've heard out of Arizona is that BMac is ready. That has come from Ozzie, from scouts, from opposing managers, from the hitters. Also, they aren't going to be jacking BMac around like they did with the 5th starters last year. He won't be pitching on 2 days rest, oe on 10 days rest. They'll put him in the rotation and let him take his turn. I'm excited Brandon's getting the opportunity and I believe he'll succeed. Excellent points. One constant is he's going to be under some extra pressure because he is replacing Buehrle. When was the last time we brought up a starter who wasn't immediately under fire?

QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Mar 19, 2005 -> 01:49 PM) ::breathes a sigh of relief that KW can't trade for him again in July:: Kenny, could bring him out of retirement . . .

QUOTE(T R U @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 12:43 PM) The only thing I need to do now is go to the food court and get something to eat to get this nasty taste out of my mouth

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 12:41 PM) It must be Jon Garland Fever I had the same thing happen to me today. Just substitute any heavy lifting with logged onto Soxtalk and found out Buerhle broke his foot. The throwing up, and everything else is right on.

Glad you are feeling better.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Mar 21, 2005 -> 11:39 AM) You're suggesting there is some inconsistency here? Get the f*** out! Wouldn't that be consistent? Aren't they taking the decision away from her husband?