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QUOTE(TheBigHurt35 @ Mar 16, 2005 -> 05:09 PM) So, if drilling in the middle of nowhere in Alaska is so bad, why is nobody protesting our drilling in the Gulf? There were plenty of protests, and they lost. Just like there were protests against building a nuclear reactor in Zion, Il. And each time, eventually, America's overwhelming desire for batteries for our toys has won out. We are the biggest consumers of resources on the planet. I believe we have a sacred moral obligation to protect our planet for fish, fowl, and animal for ourselves and future generations.

You can't handle the truth!

It's just a song, it's just a radio show, it's just a movie, it's just a speech, it's just a thought, it's just a newscast, it's just a picture, it's just what we feed our brains. If it's just fiction, then how would it challenge our beliefs? There are many parables in the Bible. Wouldn't it be illogical to assume a novel couldn't challenge a parable?

Let's see it's Patriotic to lower our dependence on foreign oil and thwarting terrorists. But we can not give up our Hummer's to go to market and lunch :headshake

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 16, 2005 -> 10:35 AM) Your first thought is wrong, frankly. (pun intended) You don't think by the Sox helping out Tellum, that come Frank's contract time, Tellum might be a little more inclined to say "Hey big guy, why don't you take that offer from the Sox" even if it isn't the best one? Tellum knows he can work with this organization, and something like that can help when you are trying to make a decesion between two offers. I think we are misunderstanding each other here. This is the part of your posts I was thinking about. The passage you wrote [by helping out Tellum, he'd be more inclined to say "why don't you take that offer". . . even if it *isn't the best one*.] Why would Tellum make this recommendation? Because Tellum works well with the Sox? It should be because Frank works well for the Sox. I am reading your comment to mean, since the Sox signed Giambi, at some point in Frank's decision making process, Tellum will be thinking "Hey the Sox helped mt out, now I'll help them out." First off it would be a very poor career move for Tellum if he didn't have Frank's interest 100% at all times. Especially if the favor was to help out a steroid using minor leaguer. Second part of the quote. Tellum isn't making the decision between two organizations, Frank is. I do not see Frank giving two hoots about another of Tellum's clients.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 16, 2005 -> 11:31 AM) Right, wrong or indifferent, it happens. Look around the league and you will see that certian teams have clumps of players from certian agents. Do you really think that is because they went out and asked all 30 teams for the best offer, and it just happened that everytime it was the same team who made the highest bid? And I honestly believe if Frank was a greedy SOB he would have left Chicago a long time ago. There was plenty of more money out there are various times, and I have no doubt that if he is a FA after 2005 someone will offer him more money than the Sox again. I also believe unless the Sox offer is a complete joke, Frank will take it, and Tellum will tell him it is a good idea. It does happen that a great working relationship allows the team and agent to negotiate fair contracts and players cluster. Boras' relationship with the Tigers greatly helped Maggs. If that is your new position, I agree. If you are claiming that Tellum should or would tell Frank to sign for less with the Sox *because* the Sox signed Giambi, I still disagree.

Honestly there were many times on my motorcycle I wish I had one. Since the motorcycle doesn't have the mass of a car, the lights would never change. More than once, when the intersection was clear, running a red light was the only answer. Or the right turn on red, through a parking lot, method.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 16, 2005 -> 10:46 AM) Oh heck no, but as long as we can get this guy out, I am all for it. I am surprised. As someone in the business world, I figured you'd understand the "its not what you know" part of sports business. I know the system works when people uphold their moral and legal obligations. Tellum cannot be selling one client short to advance another. Yes, this does signal and confirm the excellent working relationship between both parties. If Frank has to question if his agent is looking out for Frank, or paying back a favor to the club, the system doesn't work. Come on SS, you know that's correct. Let's consider this for a moment. IIRC Frank on more than one occasion has expressed frustration with his contracts. Some fans would even go so far as to call him a cry baby and whiner. I wonder what a different agent, and different contracts, would have done for Frank's attitude, and by extension, his performance on the field?

How about this one JR is thinking, "I'm going to offer Frank more because Tellum delivered Giambi to us and I like working with him" You know scratching the back and all

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 16, 2005 -> 10:40 AM) How is that violating his duties? Borass does that all of the time. He took less realized money from the Mets for Beltran instead of going to Houston. Does that mean we can get Scotty disagented? Because in your scenario he's telling Frank to take less because the Sox signed Giambi. Glad to see you are now a Borass fan.

Tellum would be violating his duties as FRANK'S Agent if he does that. Are you saying that Tellum should do that? Define lowball for Frank? I'll bet we see numbers from $500,000 to $6 million that people consider "low ball"

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 16, 2005 -> 10:12 AM) So I guess that means you are guarenteeing he won't have his 3rd season ending injury in 6 years? And he won't have the huge slump from his numbers as he recovers from injury as he has historically? You can ignore the reality only so far in your love for Frank. Read the thread title. This is about Giambi signing as a way to get Frank to end his career in a Sox uniform. Couple thoughts: Fans will say Frank is a bum if he turns down a Sox offer, no matter how small. They will turn on him if he turns down $2mil to accept $4mil from someone else. Fans demand loyalty from the players while not demanding the owners show any. JR has shown a willingness to allow players, no matter how "special" to leave if it doesn't fit with current team plans. Signing Giambi will not have any effect on Frank's decision. I have been very consistent that every player and every team has to negotiate in their best interest. Negotiate hard, accept the deal that is best for you, and later, suck it up and live with those terms. If that means Frank ends his career as a pitch hitter for the Dodgers, then so be it. If that means the Sox decide that Frank no longer fits in their plans, so be it. My love for Frank? In a nut shell. If Frank was half the leader and club house guy as he is a player, the Sox would have at least another post season appearance at at least one playoff series win. I think he is awful as a leader, moody, and one of the reasons our attendance is down, while the Cubs are up. Sammy blows kisses, hops, and "hugs" the fans. Frank sulks, signs contracts he later regrets, and is inconsistent with the greatest source of advertising to the club, the reporters.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 16, 2005 -> 09:58 AM) I am not sure where you are going but.... Unless Frank retires as a White Sox of his own free will, this place will go up in flames. It will be UGLY. Even if it means giving up Konerko?

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 16, 2005 -> 09:47 AM) Who said they have no problem with it? I did.

The first step on the road to ruin, a working government

"Otis! My Man!" "Can we dance with yo dates?"

The mom must be heartbroken and probably beating herself up for being late.

What is alarming to me is all the money we borrow from around the globe. The same countries that would not send troops to Iraq, are happy to lend us money so we can go there ourselves. The rest of the world saves, while we spend and bankrupt ourselves. Bush and the GOP just keep spending and spending and cutting taxes. Let's all take pay cuts and max out credit cards! Then when the economy is "stimulated" we'll all make more money. Don't let the government spend more than we send them.

Intersting the people here who called Maggs a selfish, greedy, MF for becoming a free agent and NOT showing any LOYALTY. Suddenly don't have a problem with dumping Frank if it means helping the team. LOL. You guys kill me.

Jay's Column

QUOTE(The Critic @ Mar 16, 2005 -> 09:26 AM) "....this one goes to 11....." I find myself quoting that and people around me giving me a blank look.

QUOTE(retro1983hat @ Mar 16, 2005 -> 09:09 AM) Billy Goat: s***ty, crappy, overpriced, miniscule burgers. f*** Sam Siannis and his uncle's dumb curse. I think the reason I would not want the Cubs to ever win has more to do with not wanting to see that old bastard and his girlfriend (some goat they got from Lincoln Park Zoo), than anything about the baseball team. The popularity is mostly from the SNL bit with Belushi, Akroyd and company. Cheeseburger, Cheeseburger, Cheeseburger, no fries, cheeps, no Coke, Pepsi!

QUOTE(mreye @ Mar 16, 2005 -> 08:56 AM) Exactly! It's a cut in the program's annual budget increase. Not an actual cut! Call me a synic, Tex. It's the truth. Where does it say it is a cut in the increase? Even if it is a cut in the increase, inflation and needs increase, so it would still be a cut.

QUOTE(Wong & Owens @ Mar 16, 2005 -> 08:34 AM) I don't believe the book contains a lick of anti-Catholic "prejudice," but if it does, well, payback's a b**** ain't it? In Catholicism there are Capitol "T" Traditions that are bedrock matters of faith and there are small "t" traditions that are more transitory, and have changed through the years. This book challenges some of the Traditions of Catholic faith. The Virgin Mary is one of them. Jesus not marrying is another. IIRC the book also questions Saints and their roll in faith. I would also assume that it challenges Peter and his roll. For those wondering small t traditions would be things like the frequency of receiving communion. That has gone from at every opportunity to once or twice in a lifetime (preferably near death), to daily. Another one is Priests being allowed to marry. That was changed a few hundred years ago.