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Stats aren't my strongest suit but for it to be a SVO doesn't the following conditions need to be met? A pitcher can earn a save by completing ALL three of the following items: 1. Finishes the game won by his team. 2. Does not receive the win. 3. Meets one of the following three items: a: Enters the game with a lead of no more than three runs and pitches at least one inning. b: Enters the game with the tying run either on base, at bat, or on deck. c: Pitches effectively for at least three innings. Is it a SVO if the pitcher comes in the 8th inning with a 4 run lead? That would partially explain our lower SVO stat. With out feast of famine offense we had a lot of blow outs and complete games.

I've been looking for about 6 months. I really dislike travelling in Mexico with all the recent problems along the border. The federal government has taken over Reynosa trying to fix the corruption, or getting their cut, whichever view of the world you like.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Feb 8, 2005 -> 03:44 PM) Maggs passed his physical & was cleared for major league baseball activity. Insurance companies don't go around asking people to jump rope. They deal with medical opinions I suggest you read this again: http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories.../18/story8.html An NFL player's disability insurance can cost $2,500 to $3,000 per $100,000 of salary insured each season, Lattinville said. Carriers typically cover 75 percent of a player's salary. Read the article. Even if premiums were to go up 500% it's still no where near the amounts your talking about. Unless of course you think insuring Maggs is a higher risk than insuring an NFL player He may be higher risk. Comparing a healthy NFL player to someone with a known injury who hasn't demonstrated he can play.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Feb 8, 2005 -> 03:28 PM) The Sox had 34S last year. Min had 48S. I'd rather have the saves than the HR's. I will gladly exchange a +10S potential for a +20HR potential. Are you looking at blown saves as well? Minny had more blown saves than the Sox and the Sox had more complete games. Minny also had more save opportunities. I think you're on to something here, pitching both from the #4 and #5 spot and relief have caused us a lot the past couple seasons. The losses in offense will be balanced not only by the speed but the pitching as well.

QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 8, 2005 -> 02:36 PM) I haven't seen any doctors reports.. but from all that I've heard it's caused serious damage to the knee. From what I have read about it.. taking it easy is one "treatment".. obviously Maggs doesn't have that luxury if he wants to stay employed. From the articles there was three courses of treatment Do nothing and the healing would be 18 months to never. Drill holes to relieve the pressure / drain with at least 9-12 months of rest. The treatment he took in Vienna which promised 4-6 months. Which is one of the reasons the Sox would have been in a no-win situation advising Maggs of which treatment to take. Conventional treatment where he would certainly miss all of Spring training and the start of the season, without a contract. Or a "not approved in the US" surgery in Vienna. What would the Sox have said? How would having input have helped the Sox?

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Feb 8, 2005 -> 03:23 PM) Did the Sox call Geico? they could save 15% or more on insurance... That's about all they could afford . . .

QUOTE(YASNY @ Feb 8, 2005 -> 11:22 AM) I don't remember his name, but one of our WWII generals, in response to a German demand to surrender had a response that seems appropriate here. NUTS! That General would be none other than General Anthony McAuliffe. [paul harvey voice]The rest of the story[/paul harvey]

QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 8, 2005 -> 02:14 PM) By the way.. edema doesn't go away. Does Maggs have a specialized form of edema? I thought this was temporary and could be cured? From the Intelihealth site Of course most people are not professional athletes.

Maybe he and Canseco could tour together . . .

In the good old days of the cold war a country could cast it's fate in one of two directions. Be friends with the US or USSR. Either way, you could be a little twerp and know that a major super power would back your action. If your crops failed, someone would provide some food. If you suddenly had something of value, "your bully" would protect you. Now it's a one country game. Fear us. We can take on anyone and win. If we decide you need democracy, we'll kill as many people as necessary until you have democracy. We are #1 and not afraid to shove our weight around. Shape up or you're history. The sooner the rest of the world realizes that, the better we'll all be. :finger world. We got it all!

s***, what was he going to do if his team lost?

Another guy we kept bringing back. He had what 3 or 4 trips with the Sox?

QUOTE(YASNY @ Feb 8, 2005 -> 09:50 AM) Compare our combined starting RF to Dye, not just Magglio. Compare our combined starting C to AJ, not just Burke. Then you might have a more accurate snapshot. Good point. Davis was .257 and Borchard was also under .300

Willie .343 Uribe .327 One or the other will be playing almost everyday, so that seems a wash.

So we are going to have more baserunners? obp last season: Lee .366 vs. Pods .343 Maggs .351 vs. Dye .334 Burke .386 vs. AJ .319 Jose .287 vs. Iguchi? So why will we all of a sudden have more baserunners? I must be missing something.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 08:34 PM) I was looking through an American-Dad Forum and I saw that there was a guy on there named Knucklesox, I read a couple of posts of him and believe me it's him. Those guys are f***ing obsessed with a show that's only aired one episode. OMG, there's a fan site already? I checked out amerciandad.com I don't think it's the same.

QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 10:12 PM) Maybe I missed something during the process, but I don't remember us offering the same $60 million contract after he got hurt. Did everybody else know this? Without any information on his injury That's about the stupidist thing I could think of doing.

A single glove freaks me out. If he added a couple sequins, it would really be creepy.

QUOTE(Mr. Zero @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 06:41 PM) You guys banned him already, at least show the decency to not talk behind his back. He asked ManofSteel to post he was coming back. I only mentioned he was the expert on American Dad and wished he was around to offer insight. IIRC he knew way more than anyone about the new series. He was the first to post the link to the new series and download the preview.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 05:39 PM) Beastly said he "did a lot for us" and I'm stating that we never got anywhere with Ordonez. We've never gotten anywhere with Buehrle or Frank either, but at least they are class guys who don't take their cheap shots through the media like Jagglio is doing. He knows damn well that KW didn't bury him, so he should keep his mouth shut. Look at the quotes in the paper, Maggs has run his mouth while KW has handled this situation with class like a professional. Buerhle spoke lovingly about the Cardinals and Frank has spoken about being mistreated and the club not showing respect. The Club alllowed an All-Star player to leave with zero to show for it. You would think the guy single handed stopped the team from a World Series. Geez, he got a better deal somewhere else and took it. No one is calling Hermanson a greedy sob for turning down his last offer and becoming a free agent. Give the guy a break.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 05:33 PM) Like take us far in the playoffs...oh nevermind we never got anywhere. We talking about Buerhle, Frank, or Maggs?

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 05:23 PM) Dye, Hermanson, Podsednik, Vizcaino, Hernandez, Peirzynski, Iguchi > Percival, Ordonez The realities of small market spending in baseball. Instead of having those guys and Maggs, we have to settle for one or the other. A problem teams like the Yankess and Red Sox wouldn't worry about.