Texsox

Show me where I disagreed with you on Israel? Besides my statement that no HUMAN can be perfect and with the constant threats, suicide bombers, and everything else happening to Israel it is even more impossible for them to be perfect. But go ahead. Please post where I criticized Israel. Show me where I disputed one of your Pro-Israel idea. Do I disagree with your position on assasinations? - Yes I disagree and so does our Constitution. Do I disagree with your position that the elimination of all Palastinians is a necessary condition for Israel's peace? Yes I disagree. Do I disagree with your position that it is ok for Israel to spy on us because we are spying on them? Yes I disagree. Do I disagree with your position that suicide bombers are the lowest form of life and should be stopped? Yes I do. Do I disagree with your position that Israel is a sovereign nation and the US should defend her? I agree, we should defend Israel. Israel has been the most loyal of any Middle Eastern Country. Too bad she has no oil. I disagree with your position that there can be no peace in Israel unless the Palistinians are destroyed. I disagree with your opinion that all Palistinians are not trustworthy. You are so racist against Palastinians you refuse to believe that someone else could see good in both. But please, go back and show me my racist statements. Show me my terrible anti-Israel statements. And again. Just because I think you are an idiot, doesn't mean I dislike all Jews. Just as you disliking me doesn't mean you hate all Chicagoans or White Sox fans. And by-the-way I heard an interesting talk at a Boy Scout 10 Commandment walk by the local Rabbi. He felt that just being born into a faith is meaningless unless you practice it. And I am tryng to rememebr what pro-Israel statements you have made. It seems you usually make anti-Palistinian statements then label anyone who disagrees a racist. You see it as one or the other. Perfect recipe for extreemist behavior.

Your view of a debate is everyone agree that Israel is perfect or they are racist. I believe Israel is 80% right in their actions, you said 99.5%. I'm supposedly a racist, you are not. What is the percentage that gets me labeled? I've condemed suicide bombers, you've advocated the assasination of Arafat. And you talk about debate. A debate has to have two sides. There are not two sides with you. I do not agree with most that APU posts on the subject. I think his retoric is as one sided as yours. I will not condem an entire group of people over the actions of a few. And by the way, Israel is a nation, not a religion. But since you seem to link them, how can you rationalize your 100% devotion to Israel. You're willingness to defend the slightest criticism, yet you do not practice your faith? Is there some guilt complex working here? Have a pleasant evening. And would you please post my quotes that you feel are racist? I've been through three threads and cannot see where you get the idea. I think the persona you have created on-line is as an idiot. Not because you are supposedly Jewish, but because your posts are assanine.

It is ok for allies to spy on us? Amazing. Name calling. Why is it anyone that disagrees with you is racist? Most of my opinions are shared by my Jewish friends. In fact, I have had several friends read previous threads and they shake their heads in amazement that you could be so blindly ignorant of human behavior. It is their insight, from actually being there and seeing the problems, that I rely on. For some reason I find their opinions a hell of a lot more informed than yours. They are close enough to the situation on a daily basis and know the problems. They do not have blind faith in Israel's leadership. They know, again from first hand knowledge, the dangers of believing one side is without fault. The fact that I can see both sides of the debate means I am anti-Israel is just silly. Is everything in your life that way? If I search the Pale Hose forum will I read you not agreeing with everything the WS have done? Does that mean you are anti-Sox? You have disagreed with Bush; does that make you anti American? I think Israel is in one of the worst situations I can think of. Not of their making. I do not believe military might will bring a lasting peace. I have not "blasted" Israel. I sympathize with Israel, I do not sympathize with the concept of destroying Palestine in the process. I do not sympathize with killing innocent people. I do not believe sympathizing with innocent people over their fate, at the hands of leaders who cannot compromise because of fear or ignorance or whatever, means I am anti-Palestine or anti-Israel. I detest the murder bombers and suicide bombers that radical Palestinians have used. I also detest Timothy McVeigh’s bombing in Oklahoma City. If I sympathize with his family, does that make me un American?

I should have qualified my statement. I should have said aware, or conciously involved. I wasn't disagreeing with you. I was just pointing out this was murder of the child, not suicide. I think it is a mistake to call him a suicide bomber.

Good idea. And they could wind up with a tasty meal when it is all over. Lobster= clarified butter = Yum Yum

I do not see this kid as involved, I see him as a victim being exploited by the lowest form of humanity. A 10 year old cannot make an informed decision like that.

:fyou the slime that attempted to do that to a little kid.

The rest of the story

Culd he be worst lefty-lefty than he was righty-lefty

For some reason I never believed that Nichols was involved as the feds claimed. I've always suspected there are others who have gone undetected. I also have a hard time believing a death row inmate from Oklahoma

Thank you. You are correct. That is why I am the humble mod and you are the Admin with not one, not two, but three trophies

Back to the spy thing. Is it ok for China to spy on us, since we are presumably spying on them? No I can't offer proof, but then again you have no proof we are spying on Israel. Or is it only OK for Israel to spy on us? Where do your loyalties lie? The US or Israel? Should you be working for Homeland Security if you believe it is correct for Israel, or any country to spy on us?

From Israel4Ever This is as near as I can tell, the only time he admitted Israel was doing something wrong, in this case, spying on the US. I am certain he would use the same justification if it was Russia or China. Maybe I'm mistaken, he may believe it is right for Israel to spy on the US.

Then you are blind. Israel has been targeted throughout their history and have been justified in most of their actions. But by me saying most, you will say I hate Israel. Being HUMAN they have made mistakes. The Palistinians have also made mistakes. Both sides are right, and both sides are wrong on some things. But by me saying that the Palis could be even 1% right, you brand me a racist. Most of my opinions have come at the feet of friends of mine who have LIVED there. While your busy checking bags at O'Hare, they are living there or having their kids live there. So don't be f***ing lecturing to me about being racist. You have condemed an entire race of people and you call me a racist. :puke The only route to permant peace is by acknowledging both sides as HUMAN. Both sides. Do not mislabel my contempt for your posts as contempt for Israel or all Jews. As I recall you haven't been to Temple in a long time. Isn't it ironic you are calling me racist when I've been to Temple more this year then you.

The only f***ing statement you make that really pissses me off is calling me a racist. You stupid f***. It is not being racist to see that people make mistakes. Please quote one of my so called racist statements? I would be the biggest hypocrit in the world if I was racist against Jews. Half my friends are Jewish.

And would that reason be that they could turn on us? Or is your government making a mistake? And I am impressed, I would have bet big money that you would have denied the spying allegation.

And the Houston Chronicle where it originally appeared? And the people they quoted where high ranking Gov't officials, are they lying. And if US officials ill lie, wouldn't you be happier living in Israel where officials never lie?

What a joke. I do not hate Israel. I see Israel as being in a difficult situation, with enemies all around. They will and have made mistakes. They are HUMANS. You don't seem to grasp that. You have zero objectivity. I see Palestinians sending 10 year old suicide bombers and it pisses me off to no end. These kids do not have the capacity to grasp what they are doing. But for you to think that Israel has a monopoly on perfect behavior is just silly. Because I believe Israel is capable of HUMAN mistakes, I hate Israel? What a stupid f***ing statement. Either I say Israel is perfect or I hate them? How f***ing stupid are you? Someone could say it is daytime in Israel and you will say it is night. and anyone who says it is daytime hates Israel. Are you saying that Britian and Spain are also allies? Did the Chancellor of Perfect make an error And what about the attack and spying? Please tell me how this was some plot by a few Americans to discredit Israel. I want to read how you deny these allegations. Hater? Because I find good on both sides?

If he is back to his old self it gives us a huge boost. I think we have a couple guys who will fill in if he fails. I wouldn't give him too many chances to keep his role.

Hmmm, has anyone ever seen BEGOOD and Heather at the same time That could explain a few things I hope you like roses

I learned it as earthly mother. You must ahve gone to a fancy shmancy ejukated skool

When would it be the best time to capture him? November 1st? Carter thought the middle of April would be a good time when he faced a similar oportunity

everywhere except Israel!