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I'd be fine with him back. But it ain't going to happen

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 02:53 PM) My question is are they still going to play the players walk up music and announce the batters and things like that? I could see some players wanting them to just so they don't get out of their routine. They probably will for the TV cameras. I'm thinking this may be the highest viewed game of the year that doesn't feature the Yankmees of the Red Sox

Nothing is as bad as that game in Baltimore . . . nobody showed up.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 02:14 PM) I know this is f***ed up, but lets not pretend that there was anything they could do but bend over and take it. Ah, isn't this the same owner that voted to strike when he had the best team in baseball? The ownership group has proven to be baseball first, team concerns second. I'm not surprised at all. And they will rightfully expect the same benefit should it ever be reversed and there was a problem in Chicago.

Now the players could go back to their roots Hey batter batter, s w i n g batter batter . . .

I understand that is why they do it. Now look at it from a competitor's POV, they may lose business to the government. The example that really hit with me was when a customer of mine back in the electronics days, an assembly shop, lost a long time customer to a shop that was basically set up to job train prisoners in Wisconsin. The prisoners got the work, my customer got to lay off workers. There were great reasons to train prisoners for real jobs, etc. but the consequences were innocent people losing their jobs.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 02:08 PM) "Let me tell you something, Stone Pony. Nobody hits with runners on base in an empty stadium better than Gordon Beckham." https://twitter.com/NotKenWilliams/status/593128067528200192

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 02:02 PM) Why not go ahead and play two tomorrow (when the teams have just had two days off) as opposed to playing two on May 28, when the Sox will be in the middle of playing 17 straight days? QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 02:04 PM) That is what I am wondering. Start the game at 11 or 12 local time and just play two games and be done by 6ish and fly out. It's pronounced KA-CHING!! $$$$ Concessions etc etc Or with the appeals they are looking to use the twin bill somehow to the teams advantage. Use that day if the appeals don't an out and it might not change the rotation schedule.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 02:02 PM) What I didn't get into there either is, some departments use a points system for military and/or college time, effectively putting people with either or both of those at a major advantage in hiring. Philosophically I am opposed to government entities competing with private businesses for for-profit work. However, I do like the idea of a PD based "private" security firm.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 02:00 PM) It happens in soccer all the time across the world as punishment to overzealous (violent) fans Thank you. I should have thought of futball first.

I was trying to find a list of sporting events played in empty stadiums. I'm guessing it has happened before, I just can't think of a professional match. I have heard of High School and perhaps a college that cleared out all the fans to play.

I wonder if there were other credible threats if the game was played in front of fans.

I see the same thing in teaching. The proposed changes in salary and performance reviews will basically drive any good teacher out of poor areas with a history of low test scores and into areas where the kids are already achieving.

Anyone care to speculate what the players preferred? Would they really have wanted to drive to the stadium and play?

I love a double header.

And to be fair there are a lot, the vast, vast, majority of citizens staying home and not contributing to the riots. This is a battle between a tiny population of both groups.

I believe if one looked at the Sox fan site forums ten years ago there were several options. We were the underdogs, the small guys. We have suspended and banned members far less than some sites, a little more than others. In the end, we've hit a balance that attracts passionate, knowledgeable fans, that can disagree without it turning ugly every time. It seems to be a winning formula and without much hyperbole I believe we are the best Sox board out there. It's 2015 and we are still surviving well after forum popularity has declined. One thing remains constant, the better the record, the better we get along. Nothing like a slow start or a prolonged losing street (three days?) for things to get testy.

I'm not certain that MLB needs to get "facts out there" in this situation. They should be exploring multiple options, listing them just adds to the uncertainty and speculation. The leadership should be internal. Let's look at unintended consequences of a couple options. The O's forfeit the series. Next time, teams will fight to play games in this situation potentially placing fans and players in a dangerous situation. Play the games in Washington, Chicago, anywhere there is an empty stadium. Deep economic loss to the area. Remember how MLB owners argue that a stadium adds to much to the local economy? They can't have it both ways, losing a home game has the opposite affect. Teams shouldn't be punished for doing the right thing especially when it involves the health and safety of players and fans.

QUOTE (3GamesToLove @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 10:22 AM) It's very difficult to just move a game to an alternate site on short notice. There are staffing issues and ticketing problems. It might seem the perfect solution, but there are hoops to jump through. QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 10:23 AM) They've had ample time since 5pm yesterday, in my opinion. Just thinking about tickets. If you have tickets for Section 201 Row D Seats 15 and 16 and those seats do not exist in the other park, or are substantially different, where do people sit? Do you exchange tickets at the gate? How long would that process take? It seems like it would take more than a day for logistics. Parking, etc etc.

Who in their right mind would want to be a cop in this environment? Now take away any job protections. What mythical person are we left with to take the job? And that IS a problem. By making the job attractive for a quality candidate, you also leave open the poor candidate to stay. I'm not certain there is an easy solution. But making the job less appealing to quality candidates doesn't seem like a step in the correct direction. Also, have we now set a pattern that any event like this must must be met with a violent protest bigger than the previous? This is not a good path either. It's dangerous for everyone. There was a great point that I think was kind of tossed aside earlier in the thread. When we think that the protesters are protesting white power we tend to over simplify. This also points to people who do have power versus the powerless. Money = power in America. When there are no legitimate and useful means for average citizens to see results they take to methods outside the "system". So we have looting and violence. There are lots of problems here that all need to be addressed.

QUOTE (3GamesToLove @ Apr 22, 2015 -> 01:39 PM) Obviously injuries affected his career, but shortened? The guy is in the top twenty of all-time games played! QUOTE (ptatc @ Apr 22, 2015 -> 01:41 PM) Most definitely. I still believe that he could have been an HOF and one of the best players of that generation without that knee injury. It didn't just shorten his career but really limited his hitting and play in the field for more than half of his career. I sit corrected. Poor word choice by the English teacher.

If there were one perfect ballpark design, we'd all have one.

Interesting. Then one of the authors we have done work for would be considered an employer, he paid my wife as an employee. (There was a unique circumstance that helped us both out) This will also include anyone who employs full time housekeepers, nannies, etc.

Not this season.

I'm happy to hear him so comfortable with his position on the team. I'm guessing by game 30 the team is .500