Texsox

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/...p;sct=hp_bf2_a6 Read more: http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/...6#ixzz1XjcqZXU3 I think being traded would be teh perfect end to Oz's tenure here. Unique, just like him.

I think it's time to break up the KW / Oz tandem, they are not working together I think Oz is the one to go I do not believe another manager would have this team in first I think KW had the right mix this season, but no one could reliably predicted Dunn's season, Peavy Problems, etc The solution to big contracts is never sign a quality veteran.

QUOTE (Wanne @ Sep 11, 2011 -> 09:38 PM) That's just it...EVERY move Kenny has made has been out of seemingly desperation. That's not what successful teams do. They only appear that way when players flame out beyond anyone's most negative expectations.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 11, 2011 -> 08:35 PM) Unless they could get an attack done on Ground Zero or a football game, I think you get many more large soft targets when people go back to work. I agree with you. Plus, adding another date would be a further reminder.

Was this a full weekend b-day celebration?

My little form of torture involves the can I instead of may I. As in can I go to the bathroom? I assume you know how. Now please sit down and get back to work. Or Can I go to the bathroom? Can you tuck in your shirt (a school rule I rarely enforce except in these cases).

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 11, 2011 -> 07:25 PM) I'll be honest, with 9/11 being a Sunday, an attack didn't really make sense. It makes much more sense on Monday or Tuesday. Plenty of targets for the weekend. But I think you are correct.

QUOTE (God Loves The Infantry @ Sep 11, 2011 -> 07:25 PM) Kind of goes in line with what I said earlier about different perspectives and circumstances, eh? I might not be as pro-gun as I am if my childhood had included such a tragedy. Either way, again, I can't fault you for your decision. It didn't make me anti-gun, just much more safety conscious. There was some debate whether his death was accidental or he intended to kill himself. Either way, I saw the look in his father's eyes and knew I would never wish that on anyone. Kids do dumb things for a lot of reasons from peer pressure to a lack of maturity. I'd rather take a chance on an intruder getting past my security system than risk a ready to fire handgun. I even toyed with the idea of having one unloaded around thinking I could bluff my way past someone. But in my mind that scenario always ended with two guys facing each other and scared the other is going to shoot. In that scenario, I wanted to be able to shoot for real.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 11, 2011 -> 07:22 PM) They didn't have a federal income tax until the 20th century. And see how well that worked. Originally, under the Articles of Confederation, the government wasn't allowed to collect taxes at all. It was strictly a local matter.

I explored the options in 1990 and wasn't comfortable with them. I also lived in a low crime area, so I wasn't too worried about a home break in. I preferred a monitored security system. My thinking was I needed to be able to grab it in under 15 seconds, while half asleep, and be ready. That meant loaded and ready. My bedroom set had a couple hidden compartments, and I rigged one to take an extra step to open, but in the end, I just wasn't comfortable with kids around. It basically stopped me from shooting handguns and I guess I never really looked back. It's a personal choice and I know I am one of the few gun owners that leaned that way. When I was a junior in high school a little kid who lived next door to my girlfriend killed himself with his parent's gun, so I know that is a big factor in weighing the risks. We have world class dove shooting in the area. With the King ranch just north of me and some other lesser known, but just as nice ranches close by, there is a lot of interesting hunting opportunities.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 9, 2011 -> 03:46 PM) A little off topic but interesting if you work downtown. Would the Sears Tower have survived 9/11? Thanks for posting.

Having three players not pan out isn't unusual for a GM. What makes this unusual is they are three of the highest paid guys on the team. I wouldn't call them bad decisions, there was a gamble or two in there, but the Dunn signing was solid, and turned out to be perhaps the worst signing of the past ten years.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Sep 11, 2011 -> 06:05 PM) I really hope KW gets the boot. Peavy, Dunn, Rios. all s***ty signings. So when the team is desperate for a DH how will you handle a GM who says a Dunn type player is about to have a major league all-time record for futility?

Going into this year I would be very optimistic Peavy would have a much better season and something around 150-180 innings. Now I see how a player could be "dunn" and actually get much, much, worse.

Happy Birthday(s)!!

QUOTE (God Loves The Infantry @ Sep 11, 2011 -> 03:54 PM) You and I share more common ground than I previously thought. What kind of guns you got? I've got a SIG 556 (it's front heavy but the piston operation makes it far more reliable than any AR IMO), a Mossberg 590 with pistol grip and telescoping stock, the obligatory 1911, a Glock 19, Beretta 92 and HK USP in .45. I'd like to get an AR soon just because they are so customizable. I could go on all day with everything I want to own, so I'll spare you the rest of it. And I get what you're saying about groups. In 99% of them, there's good ones and bad ones. But as far as I'm concerned, there are a few groups that just don't offer anything. I'm not going to meet a Nazi or a Stalinist or a Klansman, people whose beliefs led to the deaths of millions throughout the last century, and think, "he's not evil, just different." There are evil groups out there, but that label applies to the murderers and the torturers and the tyrants and the thugs. It doesn't apply to groups that want more spending or less spending, more gun rights or less gun rights, more social programs or less social programs etc. If you call such people evil just to further your political agenda ("racist" comes to mind here too), it cheapens the word's meaning when you eventually have to use it on someone who truly is evil or racist. I hope that makes sense. My tastes lean more towards black powder and shotguns (nothing exotic a 12 and 20 gauge). I made a decision when my oldest son was 2 that I wasn't go to have a handgun in the home. The rational was for the weapon to be useful for self defense it would have to be ready in seconds. That made it too available and in too dangerous of a state with kids around. No matter how well I trained them. I do enjoy heading out to a ranch and shooting some of my buddies stuff. The nice thing about living in Texas is so much land to shoot on. The worst thing comparing Illinois to Texas is he cost of hunting. I never paid a fee to a farmer for access. Here a decent lease will cost $2,500 and up.

QUOTE (God Loves The Infantry @ Sep 11, 2011 -> 12:59 PM) Good to hear. Of course, there are some groups out there that bear exception to the rule of being different and not evil, but those should be pretty obvious. And hopefully those types won't be joining our discussion anytime soon. The problem with groups is other people start deciding who is in the group, which may or may not be true. I have a much different image of Mexican immigrants than almost anyone else here. I teach at a school that is 99% Hispanic. I live in an area that is 90% Hispanic. Economically our area thrives because of Mexican tourism. When I group together Mexican immigrants, I see doctors, lawyers, business people, laborers, and almost everything in between. Others around here only group up the lowest wage earning immigrants. Some people group Muslims and only group the extremists, leaving out the majority. Almost everyone here would label me a Dem. But I'm a gun owning, balanced budget wanting, abortion hating, limit social program, Dem. So I bristle when I hear Dems think this or Dems think that.

QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Sep 11, 2011 -> 12:55 PM) Never said the US didn't have Debt.. I was discussing America in the beginning and understanding which debt b**** was talking about.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 11, 2011 -> 12:34 PM) I guess I'll flip back and forth between this and the Bears game. why bother?

QUOTE (God Loves The Infantry @ Sep 11, 2011 -> 12:47 PM) Because each side manages to find enough examples to support their arguments, and this evidence will keep their beliefs entrenched even in the face of opposing evidence. Politics has been around for a long time. Why are there debates on anything anymore? Maybe because there aren't any absolutely correct answers. For instance, I have my evidence for widespread gun ownership and someone else will have their evidence in support of gun control. It's just different angles that we're coming from. I totally believe my stances and will argue against all comers, but that doesn't mean the opposition is evil or ignorant. They're just different people coming from different backgrounds and philosophies. Just my two cents. We found some common ground, I agree 100%.

Thank you, just checking. What they needed to do in the face of all that debt was cut taxes to the wealthiest Americans

SS, great point about the danger of comparing two numbers that were derived from different methodology. Balta, kudos for the graph. Question, have we not learned much about economies in the past 80 years? Is it still such and inexact science that improving on the results from the depression isn't possible? Why is there even a debate as to what to do?

Wait, the season is still going on?

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 10, 2011 -> 12:14 PM) And you realize our country was started with massive debt right? Would you please elaborate? What are you considering as the start?

Exactly. And we don't need to offer incentives to businesses for hiring people. There are all sorts of jobs out there, it's just people don't want to work.