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QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 4, 2009 -> 04:56 PM) Yeah, we easily could have bettered Atlanta's deal, but McLouth is simply not worth the cost. We have a very good CF and leadoff prospect in Jordan Danks, who is probably a 1 - 1 ½ years away. Once Danks is ready, we'd have to move McLouth to a corner spot, where his production would only be league average at best. No reason to waste valuable assets on a short-term upgrade in CF. Also, it's pretty clear that Kenny's focus right now is a front-line starter who can help this year and in the future. We shouldn't trade any of the young players we have in AA unless it's for a right-handed, stud pitcher who's locked up for several seasons. If we need do an upgrade at CF or 2B, we should be able to find some cheap short-term options once we get closer to the trading deadline just because of the economy. Welcome to soxtalk.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 2, 2009 -> 08:30 PM) God damn Tex, you are old as hell Well yes I am. Lau, more than just about anyone, revolutionized hitting by teaching the release of the top hand and getting a better extension. Brett, Thomas, McGwire are just a few guys who have credited Lau. Walt Hriniac (spelling??) basically was a devote and continued that with Sox hitters.

I can't believe it has been 25 years since Charlie Lau passed. I'm not up on instructional books, is his How To Hit .300 still the top book for hitters?

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jun 2, 2009 -> 05:29 PM) No - he's perfect though. The right man at the right time to fix all that ails our country. Everything that's f***ed up is about the past administration; everything about today and tomorrow will be fixed by "the best president ever". And that is perhaps the magic of Obama. Even a ardent GOP supporter sees how great Obama will be. IIRC McCain was mentioned as a possible Kerry running mate. McCain enjoyed support on both sides of the aisle. I can believe the story. But I had a much different take. I saw it as more friendly bolstering, than some intimidation thing. I really do not think that Biden could have intimidated McCain at all.

QUOTE (GO CHI SOX! @ Jun 2, 2009 -> 05:40 PM) Obviously we would sign him in September when rosters expand and we could stretch out the finale of his career in a 30 day tribute. Who knows, he may play great and we make the playoffs and forces himself onto the team. Nice thought.

QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Jun 2, 2009 -> 02:22 PM) Sen. Paul Simon from the great State of Illinois. I was in a documentary class in college and he took time out of his busy schedule to do an interview with us. I wasn't there, but the people that interviewed him said he was incredibly nice and accommodating. And he seemed to have a lot of integrity. He made an appearance when I was in school about the time we were giving up the Panama Canal. Afterward, he spent about 15 minutes patiently explaining to a few people why that was a good thing. He may be the last of the honest beyond approach lawmaker.

QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ May 31, 2009 -> 10:31 PM) I had a birthday wish designed intelligently, but I haven't seen him in so long, I deleted it! Happy Birthday and come back soon! awesome. Yes, PA, I do miss you posting Happy Birthday!

QUOTE (TLAK @ May 31, 2009 -> 08:33 AM) From 5/14, he talks about how the game has changed in that starters aren't expected to go as long and how it has changed their approach early in games. He ends with this: F'ing poetry.

http://cbs4.com/local/Tanning.Butler.Ritz.2.704601.html

QUOTE (mr_genius @ May 29, 2009 -> 05:24 PM) Well, if I ever end up in court I will demand a judge that is Irish/German, from the southside of chicago, has an advanced degree in the mathematical sciences, and roots for the White Sox. No one else can understand my struggle. well played. Everyone has struggles. I believe there are a shared amount, based on us living in the same environment. Then there are the additional struggles based on our unique attributes. No doubt in my mind that when I was growing up in the 60s and 70s the struggles for minorities were far greater than any advantages that were being written into law. I also believe, at some theoretical point in time, the advantages being written into law, and people's changing attitudes, will balance, or in fact, create a disadvantage for majorities. Some will argue we are already at that point. I'll only say there are still many "firsts" left to go. In 2009 we are still talking about a first on the Supreme Court.

Howl and Other Poems by Ginsberg and The Collective Works of Flannery O'Connor. In-between I am reading Desolation Angels by Kerouac

QUOTE (rangercal @ May 29, 2009 -> 05:18 PM) My best guess is different budgets for different districts. Probably not necessarily due to race, but being under counted in the US Census could have something to do with it. If not everyone is accounted for in the Census, that means less funding for your area. That would have to mean that mixed areas avoid census takers. Again, that is my best guess. I believe you are on the right track. However, I believe funding is based on property taxes which are based on property values. Large families, living in cheap homes, are about the worse combination for a school.

QUOTE (rangercal @ May 29, 2009 -> 04:50 PM) I attended a Private school in Chicago from 1st-6th grade. I attended a cps school for the first part of 7th grade in the Logan Square/Humboldt park area of Chicago (Majority of the student body was Hispanic.) They were doing basic fractions, something that I learned in 2nd or 3rd grade. Speaking to buddies from college who went to cps in Lincoln Park claim that they learned at a pretty fast pace. They all laughed their asses off when ever I brought up the fraction story. So take it for what it's worth. The research is out there for those who want to seek it. My Fiance also taught 2 years 6th grade at a Hispanic cps school. She still can't believe how far behind her school was when she got the position. I was more interested that mixed schools were farther behind than the others, I was wondering what would cause that? It would seem like they would all be struggling.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ May 29, 2009 -> 04:33 PM) I have this horrible thing called common sense, and I understand what/why it happened in the first place. Was it wrong? Yes of course, but I'm not gonna act like some holier-than-thou idiot like you and get all pissy over some dumb kid who's good at basketball being screwed out of playing when he was 18. He didn't get a f***ing degree in mechanical engineering, he played the system the way the NCAA/NBA has made it: they are not student athletes, they are free performers that bring in millions of dollars in profits and don't see a dime of it. Who gives a s***, getting angry over this "outrage" of cheating is the dumbest f***ing thing I've heard all day. Well spoken. I guess my uncommon sense tells me that grades ought to be based on the work done in the classroom. He didn't play the system, he cheated the system. Uncommon sense tells me there is a difference. If you read my posts, I was not pissy that he was screwed out of playing, I am pissy that he CHEATED, someone changed his grades to screw another player out of a spot on the team. Bottom line, your common sense values cheating over honesty. You find it difficult that someone would defend honesty over cheating. That speaks volumes about your character. And if you look at the tone of my posts and yours, all the caps and swearing makes me wonder who is really angry here. Unless swearing is your normal way of communicating.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ May 29, 2009 -> 04:10 PM) Well Derrick did have a "passing" grade regardless. So your point is moot. Really? The earlier poster said no one was stopping him from earning a living and forcing him to go to college. My moot point is, actually the NBA does force kids into at least one year of college. And a new point is, this highlights the cost of that policy.

QUOTE (lostfan @ May 29, 2009 -> 04:07 PM) ? I haven't addressed that anywhere and I already said 3 or 4 times that what Rose did was wrong. Actually, to be accurate, what was done for him, was wrong. And it was wrong to him. While he may be a millionaire a couple times over, he was still an 18 year old kid at the time. Making him retake that course would have taught him a nice lesson. And sorry, I keep asking what to base grades on and so far no one has bothered to answer. As soon as that question is answered, it becomes apparent how wrong that is to the system. His grades were changed and the 15th player at Memphis, who was probably in the top 300* graduating seniors, gets bumped. You may call him a s***ty player, and that somehow justifies him getting screwed, but that seems like he's a pretty decent player to me. *15 scholarships on a college team. Four to freshman, Memphis seems like a top 75 program.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 29, 2009 -> 03:39 PM) If you can't get good enough grades or SATs on our own to get into Memphis, you are dumb. IIRC, there are different requirements to get into a school versus being eligible to play NCAA athletics. The NCAA requirements, I would bet, are higher than Memphis' admittance requirements.

QUOTE (lostfan @ May 29, 2009 -> 03:35 PM) Realistically, if you're as good as Derrick Rose is at basketball (or close to it), some program somewhere will find a way to have you playing. Is it right? No. But that's just how it is. The one who gets screwed out of a spot is the would-be last guy on the roste. But that would mean you're not really that good at basketball to begin with, so... tough s*** I guess. Life sucks, and it would be like that if said player made the pros, too. What would you base the grades on then?

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ May 29, 2009 -> 03:26 PM) That's such bulls***. They don't prevent from making money at all. No one is forcing them to go to college. At the end of the day it is still their choice to attend. Plenty of other options out there for them. The NBA does not allow graduating high school students to play in the NBA for one year.

QUOTE (lostfan @ May 29, 2009 -> 03:17 PM) Does it really matter Yes it matters. Because by doing nothing it means another player gets screwed out of a spot he worked for and earned when someone cheats his way and takes it away from him.

QUOTE (lostfan @ May 29, 2009 -> 03:09 PM) Who here is saying that cheating is okay? f***ing hell guys. Saying "I really don't care" or "this isn't as big of a deal as you guys are making it out to be" isn't the same as "cheating is fine by me." I agree. But saying it's ok because the CPS are terrible, the NBA's policy is unfair, Rose is stupid, it isn't his major, he's going to be a basketball player, he didn't get a f***ing masters in mathematics, or any of the other justifications why cheating is OK in this case, is far different. What was done for him, is wrong.

BTW, is there no empathy for the player who didn't have his high school grades switched and did not make the Memphis squad? Remember, by him cheating and taking a spot he didn't earn or qualify for, someone else, another gifted player, was denied that spot. I find it admirable that even cheating and fraud has such die hard fans. I hope when faced with a situation where someone cheats and robs you of an opportunity, you are equally magnanimous in your praise.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ May 29, 2009 -> 02:35 PM) Yes, you are the single greatest person on the face of the earth. I wish I knew what it was like to never do a thing wrong in my entire life. Congrats. And its not wrong what the NBA or NFL does? They get free development programs and prevent kids who have no business in college from making money. But you keep thinking you're perfect, I'm sure that goes over well. All this because I actually believe cheating is cheating? Actually you would be the one that would never do anything wrong, since nothing seems to actually be wrong to you as long as it can be justified. The difference is if I cheated, I would own up to it, admit my error, and try to make amends. I wonder which of us is most likely to cheat, the person who finds excuses for the cheating, or the one who calls cheating, cheating? Actually, don't bother answering that. I believe the NBA and NFL policies are unfair to the gifted young player. I prefer a free enterprise system. Since you believe it is ok for the school to change his grades, what should his grades have been based on?

What should grades be based on if not performance in the classroom?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 29, 2009 -> 02:02 PM) Man...that's an awful lot of money he's owed. I know we have money coming off the books, but for a guy his age, that's steep. There's going to have to be cash coming back if they want a package anywhere close to what we offered for Peavy. That makes sense from the WS perspective. However, if I'm the next GM, I'm thinking they were willing to give up that before, but it couldn't get done, they will offer at least that, plus more, or receive less, to get the next deal done. I'm certainly not going to allow them a better deal. The cats out of the bag. Makes the next negotiation that much tougher.