Texsox

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Aug 21, 2008 -> 04:57 PM) Why not? We all hear how Obama is black and we can't be mean to him. because it would be racist. Great point. Someone in this contest should take the gloves off and really start with some hard hitting attack ads.

QUOTE (shipps @ Aug 21, 2008 -> 03:17 PM) Lol.I know I was just pointing myself out kinda like when you commit a crime and you think you are a person of interest even if your not and you just break.It feels like a load off my shoulders. Any more you are suppose to be doing?

Saves is a terrible stat to use? I'll admit it does not tell the whole story, most closers may never get 50 chances in a season, but it seems that the very definition of closer is to earn saves. So it may not tell the entire picture, but it should be the first stat to use. I've never seen how they won in the standings just how many.

QUOTE (shipps @ Aug 21, 2008 -> 02:29 PM) Let me ask you this.How large are your balls? Actually they seem to have not changed in size, except there was some pain on the right side when the pain was on my right side. ATH, thanks for the concern, but I will not be going off the deep end based on this diagnosis. I was actually considering writing an article about various diagnosis and a random post on an internet message board was one of the diagnosis I thought I would include.

While I wait for my Doctor's appointment, let's play Doctor. I started presenting with lower right side abdominal pain after moderate exertion. This had been going on for a couple months, gradually getting worse. It was localized slightly below my belly button. My Dr. decided that is was probably the early signs of a hernia. Yippee! Let's all turn our heads and cough! Now, it suddenly moved to the left side only, and then to both sides. It is intermittent paid, about a 3 on a 1-10 scale. I have not been able to correlate it to food, drink, or anything like that. I'll be seeing him in a couple weeks, but in the meantime, what's the diagnosis?

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 21, 2008 -> 12:56 PM) Frustrating isn't it? God I hate the f***ing Twins. Way back it was the A's that pissed me off. Now it is the Twins. They weren't even suppose to be in the race this year. It was suppose to be Detroit and Cleveland. How dare they play well.

QUOTE (shipps @ Aug 21, 2008 -> 02:10 PM) www.fingerpointing/Texsox.com.Stop making me feel even more guilty than I did before. Knight has way too much class to name names. He just said he was waiting. If I knew it was you, I would have offered to help.

Just to keep it from becoming too obscure, and assuming I was the top of the ticket, which is slightly hubris. I'd pick from here, ABC. My short list would have DE (but we'd kill each other), FGH (ditto but a slower death and the hyperbole from both of us would be unreal lol), IJK (probably not enough diversity of opinion), and LMNOP (again, probably too liberal), unless I needed the old people in Fla, then it would be QRS. I'd honestly prefer to be the VP to one of those guys. It seems that as VP you can actually do stuff. You do not have an official agenda, can pick a pet project, and use the office of VP to make it happen. Note: I started to name names and realized that was a bit unfair.

QUOTE (Felix @ Aug 21, 2008 -> 12:00 PM) Gagne's 2003 disagrees, and that's without putting any research into it. Thigpen had a great season, but it's not even close between the two. That depends on the criteria you use. Based solely on saves, Thigpen had more than any other reliever, ever. No argument from me if you want to look for other stats and reasons to name Gagne's season better. It will be fairly easy to do and if I wasn't a Sox fan, I just might do that. But I'm a Sox fan and used saves as the bottom line for a closer.

QUOTE (knightni @ Aug 20, 2008 -> 06:57 PM) Sorry for the long delay guys. I'll try to pick it up more. For the record, it isn't Knight slowing things down. He has asked a number of people to write short bios and they are taking some time to get done. So he's too nice to kick some butt, I'm not. If he asked, get your lists done.

Bias alert. Alpha, I didn't think I needed to mention this to you but, as a conservative gun owner, I known how the liberal press would like nothing better then to take away our weapons. So they write horribly biased articles that make all gun owners out to be some wack jobs. I'm glad we had a judge up there protecting gun owners. Just read American Rifleman magazine. Month after month stories of good, honest people getting screwed over my cops and judges. If all the judge had was this article, then I agree with you Alpha, the sentence was too light. Thankfully, we have a system where people have their day in court. Based on everything else the Judge heard, this is what he decided. When I took my carry training, they called it carrying when ever we were transporting the weapon by any means. In our vehicles, in a back pack, in a panniers while biking, in a waterproof case while boating etc. But I agree that the most direct meaning would be physically out and carrying. I believe he would have been charged with carrying even with it in the back seat and I am fairly certain you would have supported the definition of carrying in that case. So let's go with your scenario, they knew he was armed, but approached as if he wasn't? However, that gives probable cause for pulling him over. It just seems strange they go after him for carrying a loaded (how did they know at the time it was loaded? Good assumption though) weapon. Then when they saw the weapon say "he's armed". I also do not understand how he knew if his hands were or were not out of sight. There were at least two officers circling his car. Should he ask, can you see my hands? Again, I've rested my hands on my lap when being pulled over and never have been dragged from my car. And, laughingly, once with my face painted from a paintball match. Bottom line, I don't think there is enough info to pass judgment on the sentence. You do. That's cool.

I am so embarrassed I left him off my list. As I was writing the bio I was kicking my butt, which hurts my already poor typing skills. Bo was class and always seemed to genuinely have fun playing. I also read something I wasn't aware of, basically the Bucs took him on a private airplane ride which made him ineligible for his Senior year of baseball at Auburn. The bastards did it on purpose because they were worried he would get injured.

I had hot soup from an airport Chilis taken from me back a few years on a Continental flight. They nice person at the gate told me it was "too hot". I asked him to blow on it for me. That may have been the problem* *I kid. I delayed boarding a couple minutes and ate it at the gate. It did make sense, I was planning on finishing before take off. I figured they serve hot coffee in flight.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 20, 2008 -> 06:01 PM) Well, here's the question we all need to ask. Do we have a high enough tolerance at this point in our lives to play a drinking game with Rudy's speech using 9/11 as one of the phrases? I'm actually worried about casualties from that night. Depends on how we play. If you use an exact phrase, it may not be so bad. But I'm guessing Rudy G. has 1001 ways to say Obama will let the terrorists in, and will use them all. And some of it may be true.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Aug 20, 2008 -> 05:47 PM) OK, let' see here. So many things in that post i want to get the straight. 1) if we are going to start arguing semantics and conjecture with every damn story that gets posted here, there will be no discussions at all. At some point, we have to, at least for discussions sake, take the story at its word. 2) The story said he was seen walking around with a gun. WHY the officers didn't initially approach him with their guns out, I have no idea. As for the reaction to him moving towards the consol, you must not have been pulled over in a long time, at least not bycops who didn't know you. You always keep your hands where the oficers can see them, ESPECIALLY if you are wearing camo face paint. 3) How much jail time I don't care. the fact he got NONE is what pissed me off. 4) Take your scenerio and put it about 10 years ago, and maybe throw in a few abortion clinic pamphlets and you would be dead wrong that no one would blink. Even if it happened today, if he openly supported abortion killers, the Pro-Choice people and NOW would be on this faster than Homer Simpson on a doughnut. 5) Semantics here again. It doesn't say if they ordered him out of the car before they grabbed his wrist. They grabbed it fearing he was reaching for a weapon. While holding his wrist, they noticed a weapon and then ordered him out, and when he refused, dragged him out. Since he did NOT get jail time, I hope he gave up something good. But his medical career could be alot more difficult now. Assuming the school doesn't kick him out for this, just imagine him trying to get malpractice insurance with these charges on his records. That is one bill I wouldn't want to see. And with people googling doctors nowadays, I wonder how many times his name will pop up with this info when people are checking out the new doc in town! I hope this follows him around forever. I am taking the story at it's word. He lowered his hands. Do you seriously keep your hands on the dash or raised when the cops pull you over? I would think resting your hands on your lap would be a normal movement. Why weren't the cops in a position to see his hands? I don't see where they mention he was out of his vehicle. I read the article three times. They do mention carrying a weapon, which to mean means he was carrying it in his car, not physically carrying it. Like a trucker is carrying dynamite. You could be right, but again, taking the article word for word, I believe they did not know he possessed any weapons until they saw it in the car. I read where law enforcement could not link him to any terrorist groups, but it seems you have. Perhaps you can make a judgement by reading one newspaper article, but I refuse to second guess the judge who probably reviewed more material than what was reported here.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Aug 20, 2008 -> 05:49 PM) I really hope you are right. because if he goes out and blows up a cafe, there is going to be hell to pay for more than one government official. We could run around and lock up everyone who disagrees with the government, but that seems like what we are fighting against. How long where you msuggesting he be locked up for? Life? Twenty years?

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Aug 20, 2008 -> 04:55 PM) what he was doing is not legal. this is obvious. he should have gotten more jail time for this felony. i just hope this moron doesn't go on a killing spree. I was responding to "what if it was me" and "what if it was Texas" questions. Did it say he was found guilty of a felony? I thought all felonies had mandatory jail time? But I still would like to know if he pled guilty in exchange for his plea. This may prevent him from legally owning any weapons. Not that it would make it impossible for him to obtain, but it does make it easier to lock him up the second time.

I am disappointed in the choice of keynote speakers because Rudy isn't the strongest family values guy out there. I would have prefered a starker contrast to the Edwards - CLinton morality plays. I also would have prefered someone who would have better moral conservative credentials.

Sad.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Aug 20, 2008 -> 03:43 PM) Tex, note the timeline. He was stopped, verbally sparred with the police, moved his hand to the center consol where officers feared a weapon, his wrist was grabbed and he was ordered out, another officer spotted the Ak-47 and THEn they forcibly removed him from the vehicle. He resisted more, was whacked with a flashlite and a taser, and STILL refused to comply. So, he didn't just simply grab a door, he reacted in a menacing way, refused to follow instructions and was combative to the police. trust me, I KNOW that some police abuse thier power and authority. But this guy deserved jail time. Yes, he has rights. The cops didn't stop him for being Muslim, they had probably cause. If he passed background checks, he can legally own a gun. he CAN'T be walking around the park with it. And if the gun is not readily visible to the officer, you are supposed to inform them that you have a firearm, on you if you have a carry permit or in the trunk if a rifle, etc. Perhaps as you hinted he may have struck a deal. if so, it had better have been a juicy one to avoid jail time. And I certainly hope that he is subject to lots of searches and suspicion for a long time. So much of this is conjecture. He moved his right wrist towards the center console where the cops worried he may have had a gun. Where was he suppose to lower his right hand too? There was no mention if a gun was there. Again, if he was walking around the park with a gun, they would have known he was armed before seeing the weapon in the backseat. So I am not agreeing he ever walked around the park if the weapon. (I also would not be surprised he did), but it just seems if he had been observed with the weapon they would have approached him in a much different manner and assumed he was armed. How much jail time? A month? Ten years? And what have other defendants received for say kicking the squad car door, twisting away, punching a cop? I don't know what other people have received and for what level of resist, so it is difficult to say he should have received this. Perhaps NSS could comment better, but I assume that 90% of the arrests involve some form of resist. I assume that not everyone puts on their own handcuffs and walks to the car. Your question was should he have received jail time and I am still of the opinion we don't have the facts necessary to make that judgment but this seems within the realm of reason. I also think he he was a white Christian with say Pro-Life pamphlets no one would blink that he received probation. I see you added. that quote. What that seems to me is the cop is looking at this wack job in face paint and getting nervous, they see a weapon and freak out and grab him and start pulling him out of the car. It doesn't say if they ever ordered him out of the car.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Aug 20, 2008 -> 01:50 PM) 9/11.... 9/11.... 9/11.... War on Terror.... 9/11.... 9/11.... 9/11.... New York.... 9/11.... 9/11.... 9/11.... Mayor.... 9/11.... 9/11.... 9/11.... John McCain is best ready to serve in a post-9/11 world where 9/11 could happen any day of the week, especially on 9/11. With all the friends we've mad the past eight years, I believe we should be even more diligent. Those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Much like my son and History II in college.

One thing I know about the MLB is it takes some luck to win. Some average guys to step up and be huge. We have one more mini-slide left this season, I hope Minny slides the same time we do. I am enjoying this feeling.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Aug 20, 2008 -> 10:57 AM) So do you think he should have served jail time, or was probation appropriate? As I stated earlier, just the resisting arrest should have warrented jail time. The rest would just be mitigating factors into making it longer. Felony arms possession is also jail time (which it said he was charged with). In gun-friendly Texas, if you were pulled over with an AK-47 in your backseat and resisted arrest, would you be out of jail? There is too much we do not know before judging the judgment. First off we allow for gray areas and a sliding scale with crimes. Resisting arrest for example. He grabbed the door handle. That doesn't seem nearly as offensive as taking a swing, etc. Not being there, perhaps it was as much a reaction to being yanked from the car. I have seen, and I am certain others have, blooper reels and COPs episodes where people are dropped on their heads while getting pulled by police. It could have been as simple as that, we really don't know. We do not know what deals were struck with the prosecution. He could have agreed to plead guilty in exchange for that recommendation. He may have provided some information on others. We just do not know. In Texas, I can have a AK47 in my backseat without any problem. If after the dust settled and adrenalin stopped flowing, all I did was grab the door to my car as I was being dragged, trying to save my face from eating pavement, no, I doubt I would get any jail time. What clouds this is his thoughts and beliefs. And at least in 2008 we still convict and sentence people primarily on what they did, not on what they may have been thinking. I do know this, if this guy still has his rights, then all the good people still have theirs. When we start stripping people of their rights based on what they believe in, that gives the government way to much power in my book.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Aug 20, 2008 -> 10:46 AM) I don't think anyone cares that he had a gun (or rather owned a gun)... I think people do care however that this guy hates America, supports people who have/want to do very bad things to this country, was walking around a park with a loaded and very deadly assault rifle, and on top of it all resisted arrest. I love it how people defend this piece of crap human being, saying he has all the rights to run around with a loaded AK-47, while supporting terrorist organizations. I love the Constitution, and there doesn't seem to be an asterisks on the Bill of Rights. The AK 47 is no more deadly a rifle as any other semi-automatic. You have to pull the trigger each time you want to discharge the weapon. Same as a innocent looking Remington. The article is unclear that he was ever observed holding the rifle. They say they saw it in the backseat and *then* knew he was armed. Based on that interpretation, it doesn't seem as if he was walking around. But I respect those that read the article and believe he was. I also support the right to free speech. There are ways of supporting terrorism that are legal. Sad, but true. Once we start restricting anti-government speech, we also restrict the "good stuff" we agree with. Dangerous territory. To be accurate, I support our Constitution, our right to arms and our right to free speech. The end result may be someone I do not agree with is using those rights. But that is a far different reality then saying anyone here is supporting this guy.