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OMG, both Jones and Rolle fall to them? They are sticky ass s*** right now. I'll say Rolle, just because I like him the most, but damn, are they happy ass s*** right now. Also...I doubt they take a RB in round 1, even if Caddy/Benson is available. They like JJ Arrington a lot, so they will probably take him in the second.

So I guess were making a trade? That's pretty sweet

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Mar 25, 2005 -> 05:59 PM) Just remember the only publication to pick the Illini as the #1 team in the nation comming into the season was Playboy so this could be a good sign. Dude, that reading the articles thing is a joke. There are pictures in there...OF NAKED WOMEN.

Add was has been said about Pedro in this thread to the fact that 3B is like the deepest offensive position in fantasy. There are a ton of good 3B eligible hitters out there.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Mar 25, 2005 -> 06:05 PM) Also where the f*** does the correlation between Ray Ray and Tadahito come from? I guess since Prior is injury prone than Rich Harden is injury prone??? I'm not seeing the relationship? Since when does Ray Durham being injury prone at age 29 make all 2B over the age 29 injury prone? You are wrong. Harden would have to be traded to the Cubs for that to work.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Mar 25, 2005 -> 05:28 PM) I would rather there be no baseball than cheaters. But maybe this is just me. I know they will be in the hallf of fame but asteriks really should be included. Even though selig is against it. I wouldn't be opposed to asterisks at all. I do think that them both being in the 500 homer club, and due to them doing what they did for baseball, that they will be in.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Mar 25, 2005 -> 11:33 AM) I'll tell you right now who the pick is going to be. The Vikings are going to draft Braylon Edwards at this slot if Williams if off the board. I'd bet my bottom dollar both Edwards and Williams aren't off the board at pick 7. The Titans are going to draft Pac-Man Jones out of WVU and the Vikings are going to select Braylon Edwards. Book it. Seriously, book it. I do agree that Tennessee will not take Braylon...however, the thought of both Edwards and MWill being off the board is not completely ludicrous. If San Diego has some type of change of heart where they want Edwards badly, they can trade 12 and 28(which I have been preaching all along, but I do know that it will not necessarily happen) for #4, and take Edwards...TB would then probably take MWill...that leaves them both off the board at 7. I would say there, Minny would look to trade down, because Williamson is not a good value at #7(he is probably in the 10-15 range, so even 9 is reaching for him)...but if they can't find a trade down they like, they take Derrick Johnson, and then take another receiver at 18(probably Clayton). I will also say that if there is a trade up in the draft, it will probably either be Minny trading up to 3 to secure one of the WR's, or San Diego up to 4, again, to secure one of the WR's.

:banghead :banghead :banghead QUIT f***IN WORRYING ABOUT WHAT PUBLICATIONS SAY ABOUT THE WHITE SOX Jesus tap dancin Christ. The Sox made no sexy moves, their team OPS went down, their team average went down, the 3 and 4 spots in the rotation are held by Cubans who are very questionable(El Duque being injury prone, Contreras just having never been good in the majors as a starter), the bullpen has a junkballer...do I have to go through this again? I want to ask everyone on the board one favor - that being, do not read or watch another AL Central prediction for the rest of ST anywhere...not ESPN, not BP, not TSN, not the Tribune, not the Herald...no where. And just let them play. This s*** is going to work...we have a full (6) man rotation, a very deep bullpen, a lineup with essentially no holes, a deep bench, and a guy who will start the year on the DL that will be back in probably mid May who will put up a .950 OPS or close to it for 3 and a half months. Put it this way...when the fewest amount of wins you will probably get from your rotation is still in double digits, you have a good chance...and when the worst OPS in your starting lineup could be like .700(either Pods or Crede), and the worst average will probably be around .250(probably Crede), you will be in for a good season. I can give a hundred reasons why I think the White Sox will win the division, and even a couple as to why I think they could be a World Series team...but that is pointless, because writes and analysts everywhere could give me hundreds of reasons as to why the White Sox will not be a .500 team...and half the reasons will probably be the same reasons I have for them winning the division. Now, having vented a little on that, I will say Sheehan is a little off-base in his reasons. MB is a #3 pitcher.....on the Yankees. Freddy Garcia is a #3 pitcher.......on the Red Sox(maybe). Carlos Lee did not turn into Scott Podsednik...Carlos Lee turned into Scott Podsednik, Luis Vizcaino, Duque, AJP, and Iguchi. Most 2005 projections I have seen for Aaron Rowand project him to hit around 30 homers and to hit in the .300 range. There is no need for Joe Crede to bust out and have a huge year...he can put up .250 20 60 .700 and we would be fine. Iguchi is not injury prone because the last good 2Bman we had was Durham, who, at 29, had his last full healthy year(that is probably the worst argument I have ever heard). And since when is $9 mill a year getting paid like an ace? Kris Benson got paid $7 mill a year, so he must be getting paid like a #2 starter...or no. And Buehrle getting $5.75 is nothing compared to the $7 mill or so Eric Milton is getting. And he can't say the White Sox offense will be bad. I mean, they are still likely going to hit 200 homers, and will still probably score 750-800 runs...so that doesn't seem too bad to me. The fact that they are going to try and score runs in more ways then 1 just tells me they are trying to become a more versatile offense, thus making it more dangerous. So instead of losing games 3-2 and winning games 11-5, they will win both close games and blowouts, and they will lose the same way. Nothing wrong with that...kind of seems similar to what the Twins are doing. In general...Sheehan has to be a Cubs fan...or a Twins fan...or he just has to hate Kenny Williams. I'm not sure which.

QUOTE(Reddy @ Mar 25, 2005 -> 05:06 PM) i would be fine with neither making it I wouldn't. Steroids or not, McGwire and Sosa saved baseball in '98 with their home run chase. And, steroids or not, Bonds is still the only 500-500 player in the history of the game, and probably will be the only one...though I suppose I can't say that for sure.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Mar 25, 2005 -> 01:55 AM) They blame that on the curse. Jesus is perfect, don't ya know? Well, to be quite honest, I think even Jesus would get a little rattled after Gonzalez's stone hands booted that taylor-made DP ball.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Mar 24, 2005 -> 11:32 PM) Shouldn't we just skip them and go on to the next pick, then come back to them? Ha BTW, if those were the available players, which I do not think they will be, I would say they'd trade down and get some more value out of that pick. Though, they could also draft Derrick Johnson too...so I'll say that.

QUOTE(chisox05 @ Mar 24, 2005 -> 06:06 PM) We seem a bit overload at WR. (First Round pick) No

QUOTE(T R U @ Mar 24, 2005 -> 03:50 PM) dude the Titans lost both their CB's Dyson and Rolle... I think they will be taking Pac Man Jones I agree with that, I just said they'd take Rolle. Either Rolle or Pac Man is a good choice here. They have also had luck getting receivers in the later rounds(Mason and McCareins were both 4th round picks and Bennett was undrafted). I think probably the last receiver they took in the first round was Kevin Dyson...and he was was a bust, considering he was a first round pick. I do not see them taking a receiver in the first round. The highest I see is 2nd round, and that may even be reaching a bit.

QUOTE(kwill @ Mar 24, 2005 -> 03:32 PM) I dont know if you know this or not guys but San Fran park is massive and one of the biggest ballparks in the league. It plays huge and is very spacious and only one other player has hti the ball into the water Barry say: THANKS MANNY!

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Mar 24, 2005 -> 12:25 PM) Roids enabled Bonds to hit more HR's which then is factored into the calculation of his OPS, OBP, & SLG. Unless you have another roids player to compare him to that clearly shows that roids enabled him to hit more singles, doubles, triples, & get walks you are standing in a pile of bulls***. I don't get what the singles, double, and triples have to do with anything(because, for starters, singles mean very little in SLG, and you rarely see roid players get triples), but anyways... Sammy Sosa. I would like some type of explanation as to how he went from a .320 OBP guy, at the highest, throughout his career, to putting up OBP's in the .400s. You think him hitting 129 homers between 98 and 99 maybe had something to do with it? I could see .285 35 100 .350 .900 numbers or so from Sosa off roids...but no way in hell he puts up a .400 OBP without roids.

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Mar 24, 2005 -> 01:33 PM) There have been rumors the Bears interest in Edge, etc. I doubt Henry, unless the Bills are willing to give him up for a 2nd day pick. With our 2nd round pick we could trade for Edge or Alexander, both much better than Henry. SB A second rounder next year could potentially work.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Mar 23, 2005 -> 05:02 PM) He is not even a career .300 hitter with steroids. So your saying without them he would have a better average? Find that very hard to believe. Maybe I exaggerated with .300 But I could seriously have seen like .285-.290. Sosa was pretty much a .300-.330 hitter during his roids run in the late 90s, early 00s...I could see .280-.300 without them. So instead of .300 35 100 .950(because he would be around .950...consider that he hit .259 this year and still put up a SLG of like .527...if he starts hitting, he will be pitched around, and the OBP will go up...he would be around .950)...if he puts up .285 35 100 .900...are you gonna complain?

QUOTE(Queen Prawn @ Mar 23, 2005 -> 05:43 PM) Not as good as Nerds! Come on now, we all know that all Willy Wonka candy is just awesome. You can be a runt, nerd, or gobstopper...in my world, you are delicious

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Mar 23, 2005 -> 05:40 PM) umm Anthrax just messed up. For most of their careers Ricky Williams had a horrible line in Miami and the Chargers O-Line have been anything but good for Tomlinson. Fact is behind a good line Jones looked amazing but than we saw his true self when the line fell apart. What made it even worse, in the few games A-Train started with the same bad line he outperformed Jones. Benson like Ricky and Tomlinson will make an impact even if we have a bad line something Thomas Jones for sure didnt do. All I need to know about Benson is that he ran for over 1000 yards this past year with Vince Young as QB, who threw for 1849 yards. That tells me that Benson was probably facing 7 and 8 man boxes consistently, and was still running everywhere. PS...Benson ran for 1834 yards...only 15 fewer yards then how many Young threw for.

Gobstoppers are good

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Mar 23, 2005 -> 03:57 PM) Just a team that is relying on defense to win games, needs atleast 2 good running backs. I don't think that thought is doubted. I think what people are wondering is if you take that RB at 4, or if you take it at 36(or 39...whatever the Bears 2nd round pick is) As an outsider looking in, I have mentioned it quite a few times...I think a trade down could be the smartest thing the Bears could do. If you trade down with San Diego(who has 12 and 28), you will likely be looking at atleast WR-CB/OL, and there is a chance, and I would actually say a good chance, that one of Cadillac and Benson slips to 12. For starters, you would already have Minnesota hoping and praying that Tampa Bay picks Caddy/Benson at 5, because if they don't, the best WR at 7 would be Troy Williamson...I think he is high at 9(though, unlike what I said before, I could see him going there to Washington)...he is way too high at 7. It essentially forces Minnesota to take like Derrick Johnson, and while that is not a bad thing, it keeps them away from what they wanted, that being an elite WR. If that were to happen(say, hypothetically, it goes SF-Rodgers, MIA-Brown, CLE-Smith, SD-Edwards, TB-MWill, TEN-XXX), that leaves only 1 team from 7 to 12 that needs a RB...Tennessee has Brown, Minnesota has RBs up the ass, Washington has Portis, Lions have Jones, Dallas has Jones...only Arizona has a need for a RB, and they could be looking at Rolle 1st round while trying to pick up JJ Arrington later on...if that were to happen, that leaves Chicago with their choice of Benson and Caddy...at 12, along with another 1st round pick to go with it. Now, San Diego could take Williams(him being SoCal and all), Tampa Bay could then take Caddy/Benson, Minnesota would take Edwards, Arizona could then take the RB Tampa does not draft, and Williamson could go to Washington...but even then, you still have Derrick Johnson who will probably be available at 12, and he's not a bad value pick there at all. As of right now, you will get Benson, Caddy, Williams, or Edwards at 4, guaranteed...so there is no risk there. However, trading down, while a risk for you to not get your man, I think is a smart move here.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Mar 23, 2005 -> 12:53 AM) Umm, if he puts up Sosa like numbers I'd gladly take Pena. I'm talking about that few year run Sosa had where he was the best or one of the best offensive players in baseball. This is ego aside. But if the Sammy Sosa from 98 was still around I'd take him on the sox any day of the week. As much as I hate the assclown he was amazing during that run. Now it's obviously not a guarantee...because roids did help Sosa...but Sosa, even off roids, was still probably going to be a .300 35 100 .900 type hitter his entire career. Which is one of the reasons that, if given the chance, I would get this guy and make room for him, quite honestly. I'm not going to dismantle the team, but if we fall out of it, I wouldn't mind trading Dye to a team that needs a decent bat and maybe a RFer, and then trading like Garland for him. That's not something I'd do now, but, like I said, if we fell out of the race, I would make that trade.

It's not that hard to tell when someone is lying...but it would be dumb to tell the truth in this instance.

Doug will be pimpin the (women)! yea uh oh s*** i may need a prom date too...but I don't think I will start my own thread. I will just save up my money and be like hey, you wanna go with me - $50 in it for you

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Mar 22, 2005 -> 06:19 PM) I guess I'm just not impressed with him. 22 BB, 108 SO, and a .316 OBP is disgusting. I understand potential but his minor league numbers sucked and he appears to just be a free-swinging strikeout master with a ton of power like Borchard. By the way, remember that Pena is from the Dominican so his age is automatically in doubt. It is a little late, but still worthy. Wily Mo Pena, 2004(24 years old) - .259 26 HR 66 RBI 5 SB .316 OBP, 527 SLG, .843 OPS, 22 BB, 108 K in 110 games, 358 PA's Sammy Sosa, 1993(24 years old) - .261 33 HR 93 RBI 36 SB, .309 OBP, .485 SLG, .794 OPS, 38 BB, 135 K in 159 games, 636 PA's Surprise, surprise, I have seen him compared to Samme before. And you wonder why any team wouldn't want him.