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2014-2015 NFL Football thread
witesoxfan replied to southsider2k5's topic in Alex’s Olde Tyme Sports Pub
QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 3, 2014 -> 05:27 PM) I want more football news. Bills traded a 6th round pick for Tampa WR and recent stabbing victim Mike Williams. -
QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Apr 3, 2014 -> 11:14 PM) Barnum finished with 3bb's for Dash, nice. Kyle Hansen 1 IP, 0 BB, 2 SO in relief for Dash. Really disappointed he's not starting this year. He was excellent last year. I guess Sox don't see too much in his stuff. Or they really like him and his feel for pitching and are trying to fast track him. Daniel Webb started 2013 in A+ with the Dash and ended in the majors, where he currently sits. Addison Reed started 2011 with the Warthogs and ended up in the majors, closing the following season. Moving someone to the bullpen isn't always an indication that the team doesn't like him in the rotation.
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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 4, 2014 -> 09:14 AM) People have disagreed and said that there is a mechanical change he may need to make to exploit his power - that he drives the ball too much into the ground, and thus hits too many ground balls/bloops. I'd like to see him open his stance up a bit and maybe stand up a little straighter. Frankly, that closed stance at the plate and even the way he goes about attacking the ball reminds me of Edgar Renteria. It's a bit of a defensive swing, but you can hit the ball hard and with authority, especially the other way. Your browser does not support iframes. Your browser does not support iframes. If he could be Renteria at his peak, nobody would complain, but that offensive production is heavily dependent upon a high batting average.
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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 4, 2014 -> 08:42 AM) I hear ya, but it's nice to know that the option is out there. He'll be what, a 28 year old this offseason? He'd be pricey but if we solve the catcher's spot and we think we're going for the division in 2015, Abreu followed by Sandoval is a formidable middle of the order. I feel like I've seen this movie before. (and no, I'm not saying Sandoval will turn into Dunn, but he's such a streaky and inconsistent hitter that I just don't want them investing a ton into him)
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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 4, 2014 -> 08:37 AM) Also should point out that if the White Sox want to spend bigger money on a guy on a multiple year deal to fill their DH spot, Sandoval is an obvious option as well. Sandoval is looking for a contract similar to Hunter Pence, maybe more. He's a guy I stay very, very far away from.
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QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 3, 2014 -> 11:37 PM) If attendance doesn't matter, why not just charge 10 bucks for box seats and be done with it? If you do this, and it brings in 10,000 fans to the upper deck, you make $100,000. Now, if you charge $22.50, and that brings in 4,500 fans, you make $101,250. If you average that over the course of a season, you bring in $101,250 more than with the $10 tickets, which means, in the upper deck alone, you make a games worth of revenue more over the course of a full season. Now figure that when school's out and the weather is nicer and the weekends come, the Sox will draw more than that anyways, and the figure I used - $22.50 - is a pretty low figure anyways. Price point maximization is really a pretty simple process and is something you learn in ECON101, and major league baseball teams are going to employ very good economists because messing that up can lose you a lot of money.
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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 3, 2014 -> 08:25 PM) My counterpoint to that remains Jose Reyes, who started off swinging as freely as Garcia or even worse and turned himself into a solidly patient hitter. I think he's the exception rather than the rule. Players will typically improve their patience and eye at the plate as they age in general, but it's usually not as drastic as Reyes. Whether they improve because they improve recognition or because pitchers are actively pitching around them more is what comes into play. My initial guess tells me that, more often than not, player's "patience" or "eye" improves because they start hitting the ball hard all the time and pitchers start pitching around them. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 4, 2014 -> 07:42 AM) Soxtalk was all ready to meltdown and rebuild, until it came to actually dealing with the flaws and growth of young players. It's not bad to look at the flaws of players. Creating discussion saying "what do we feel Player X has to do to improve his game" is constructive conversation. I don't think anyone is necessarily saying that Garcia sucks or he's a lost cause, but there are some signs that we see in his game that are really concerning. QUOTE (onedude @ Apr 4, 2014 -> 08:10 AM) I kinda see Garcia as a future Ordonez for a ceiling. He's got comparable numbers(exception of BBs) at same age. My fear is that this is his ceiling, and players rarely reach their ceiling. He has great plate coverage and pretty good bat control, but he strikes out a lot more than Maggs did too.
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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 4, 2014 -> 08:19 AM) How about Castro? There are reasons to be down on Castro, but he's 24. He deserves more time.
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QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 4, 2014 -> 12:16 AM) I think he's Jamie Moyer-esque. He's going to pitch a long long time unless he wants to retire and spend time with his beloved dog and his beloved family. He hinted at retiring when he was 32, and he's mentioned several times that he doesn't really intend to play forever. He's a phenomenal pitcher, but I don't see him playing long beyond this current contract, if at all. He's made more than $100 million in his career, so he's set financially.
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Sox vs Twins April 3 game thread
witesoxfan replied to southsider2k5's topic in 2014 Season in Review
QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Apr 3, 2014 -> 04:47 PM) Same reason I hated AJ and every other loser associated with the Twins. Garbage ass team in a garbage ass city. I actually happen to think Minneapolis is a pretty nice city. -
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 3, 2014 -> 02:37 PM) Worked well for Crede and Jenks, not. Jenks' agents were Genske and Felder, and the Sox were never comfortable giving him a long term deal because he never got serious about getting himself in better shape. They were smart.
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Sox vs Twins April 3 game thread
witesoxfan replied to southsider2k5's topic in 2014 Season in Review
I like Lindstrom and what he offers to the team, but I think this club would be better off with Webb closing out games. -
Sox vs Twins April 3 game thread
witesoxfan replied to southsider2k5's topic in 2014 Season in Review
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Sox vs Twins April 3 game thread
witesoxfan replied to southsider2k5's topic in 2014 Season in Review
QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 3, 2014 -> 04:29 PM) Can Lindstrom do this? Or is he a hack? Know little about him. Would be nice to get three going into powerful KC. Lindstrom has closing experience. He throws hard and throws a lot of sinkers. Frankly, he is the exact type of guy that can put together a really good season out of nowhere, ala Dustin Hermanson, and really help the Sox out either late in games or as a piece to trade later in the year if things fall apart. -
Cool little piece on Buehrle's game http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/mark-buehrl...imperfect-game/
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Sox vs Twins April 3 game thread
witesoxfan replied to southsider2k5's topic in 2014 Season in Review
Down 5-1? f*** it, score 7 in the next two innings. -
Sox vs Twins April 3 game thread
witesoxfan replied to southsider2k5's topic in 2014 Season in Review
Time for Abreu to do yardwork -
Sox vs Twins April 3 game thread
witesoxfan replied to southsider2k5's topic in 2014 Season in Review
So in the 8th inning yesterday, Dunn made the score 5-4. The Sox eventually won in extras. Today, in the 5th inning, Dunn made the score 5-4. The Sox eventually win 14-6. -
QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Apr 3, 2014 -> 01:04 PM) The fact is that Dunn has a .722 OPS as a White Sox and that is why many people do not like him. It's .781 the last two years and he's hit 75 homers over that time frame too. He's a good offensive player, especially against right handed pitchers.
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Sox vs Twins April 3 game thread
witesoxfan replied to southsider2k5's topic in 2014 Season in Review
QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Apr 3, 2014 -> 11:30 AM) I'm thinking, they are stalling this year out. Knowing that Konerko and Dunn aren't on this team next year, Viciedo is a perfect DH with De Aza as the full time LF. So this year, its going to be messy, but next year will open up. I do not believe Viciedo is a perfect DH. For all the b****ing about Dunn, he's a far more productive hitter than Viciedo. -
QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Apr 3, 2014 -> 11:11 AM) Didn't Stone say it was the best pitch he's seen all year? Why do the Twins have him rotting at the end of the bullpen? The Twins are just brutal. I know they have some good prospects, but man they suck bad. It doesn't help when your franchise player is a better Mark Grace. It makes absolutely no sense. His sinking stuff is like as nasty as Kevin Brown. He doesn't strike guys out now, but he definitely has the ability to do so. His GB/FB last year was 3 and he threw 60% ground balls. The dude is absolutely a ridiculously talented pitcher and the Twins instead are starting Kevin Correia and Mike Pelfrey. It's mind-boggling.
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QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 3, 2014 -> 10:55 AM) Not only did Eaton look horrible, but that balk pitch that didn't count was absolutely filthy. Deduno was throwing a lot of sliders but that pitch had a lot of hump to it. I was worried Eaton was going to hurt himself with the swing he threw at it. Not the first time it's happened. Your browser does not support iframes. "something something good hitters aren't afraid of looking bad something something" - some old guy
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QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 2, 2014 -> 11:48 PM) Perhaps I was being a bit overzealous but if Hahn and the front office are serious about this quick turnaround, they cannot pass on Rodon. I would be ecstatic if we could line him up behind Sale-Quintana-Johnson as early as 2016. I would just like to point out that Andrew Miller was once assured of being a top of the rotation starter right out of college too. Things can change quickly.
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QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 2, 2014 -> 11:44 PM) You knew Buehrle was only going to get better and better. He's one of those guys who will be a crafty lefty into his 40s (if he wants to keep going). That arm has been magical. Here's to that golden left arm remaining strong. He's a marvel. Except that Buehrle isn't getting better and better. He's a dependable arm in the rotation, but he's a #3-4 starter anymore.
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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 2, 2014 -> 06:15 PM) I didn't take it to mean anything other than what you posted FWIW. Still, it was a really embarrassing crowd. There are reasons for it - 2nd game of the year, cold weather, low expectations, coming off a terrible season - but it's still embarrassing. That crowd almost makes the Marlins look good in comparison. QUOTE (Marty34 @ Apr 2, 2014 -> 06:37 PM) I think it's silly to blame the customer of any business for not buying the product. I didn't. Read again. I said it's embarrassing, but that there are a lot of reasons for the attendance to be low. If I'm a teenager and my mom comes up to me while amongst all my friends and kisses me on the cheek and does that thing where she cleans a smudge off my face in front of all of my friends, I'm certainly not at fault for the embarrassment even though I'm the one with the embarrassing scene.
