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QUOTE (Whitewashed in '05 @ Sep 30, 2010 -> 11:18 PM) He ABSOLUTELY OBLITERATED that ball on the grand slam. And the Twins are playing s***ty baseball at just the right time too. If they get swept in the playoffs again, I'm going to be pissed. I get really, really tired of losing the division to those POS's year after year only to see them get trampled on, because it makes a statement about the AL Central and the White Sox in general, when really, I don't think any team is going to beat the Twins during their typical hot stretches. Hopefully they just have their light switched turned off right now, and they know where it is and can turn it on before the playoffs start.

This is even worse when you consider that people who actually are racists and don't like him because he's black won't follow the NBA because, NEWSFLASH, the NBA is a black dominated league. So, by suggesting that people didn't like "The Decision" because he's black, he is insulting those white Americans who do follow and enjoy the NBA (they sure as hell don't like it because of all the white people on the court) while also making himself look bad amongst not only the black community but the entire nation by pulling out the overused race card, when race clearly isn't and has never been a factor in this. Maverick Carter might be the worst PR guy in the history of mankind.

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Sep 30, 2010 -> 10:34 PM) i have no idea what you just said, i was only paying attention to the Asian girl in your sig. i hope she will be back in 2011 Yeah she is pretty smoking hot. I usually have to stop and look at her for a good 5-10 seconds before I continue scrolling.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 30, 2010 -> 10:34 PM) If I was Konerko I would just say "Give me a reason to think this team will be good next year. I'll make my decision my X-mas, so let me see what team you have by then and then I'll decide where I am going". He'd be stupid to give them till Christmas, because most teams have virtually finalized their rosters by then and aren't going to be looking to give out a big contract to a middle 30s 1Bman.

After tonight's game, Jose Bautista has 54 home runs. Of those 54, 53 of them have been pulled, in some manner. His final homer of the night tonight was his first homer of the year to RF.

QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Sep 30, 2010 -> 07:35 PM) He's suggesting that if he were white, he wouldn't of caught so much flack. That's kind of what I thought, but he has obviously caught as much s*** as he has because he's a dick.

QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Sep 30, 2010 -> 03:12 PM) *raises hand* About LBJ, I really hate when black people throw the race card around for no good reason. It would be nice to see LBJ "accidentally" catch a "stray" elbow at some point this season. Seriously. There are negative racial connotations and stereotypes throughout sports today, but I don't think race ever, ever, ever came up. I'm actually still confused about this. Is he suggesting people were pissed at him because he was black because he went to the Heat? Or what? Because none of it makes sense to me.

I could see Crawford getting a 7/$120 (or maybe more) deal this offseason. I don't think that's in the cards for the White Sox. If they signed him, I obviously wouldn't be upset because I think Crawford will become a better and more powerful hitter as he gets a bit older. If they did that, it would also be at the expense of Pierre. I believe in the past Crawford says that he prefers playing LF (and since he's signing somewhere, he's going to get his wish or you will have a disgruntled player), and you obviously can't put Pierre in CF, since Rios is better, or RF, and he's making way too much money to be a bench player, and he is good enough that someone would trade for him. I just want to point out that the only moves Williams really made during this past offseason to add to the everyday lineup was trading for Mark Teahen and Juan Pierre. He acquired Rios and Peavy during the year, but we are talking exclusively the offseason. Williams is going to have to aim a bit higher if he wants to make any type of changes to the lineup.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Sep 29, 2010 -> 06:20 PM) Thompson is too raw for the AFL this year. Mitchell hasn't played at AA so I'm not sure of his classification for the AFL. You can have like one player who isn't at AA or above in the AFL, can't you?

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Sep 29, 2010 -> 04:28 PM) Players I don't see returning (not tendered a contract or traded): Konerko AJ Jones Kotsay Quentin Putz Jenks Pena Garcia and one of Buehrle, Danks, Floyd (my bet is on Buehrle) I actually think you will see the Sox look to retain a few more than that, because it will take an enormous amount of creativity to put together a contender while losing so many guys, and the Sox almost have to try and win next year. Attempt to retain Konerko, but he may have priced himself out Re-sign AJ to 1 year deal with an option Look into keeping Jones because he is pretty much a perfect 4th outfielder Kotsay is gone Quentin will atleast be tendered a contract. I don't believe you are going to find a player of Quentin's potential for a similar price on the open market, and thus, I think he will be kept. They'll look into keeping Putz, but I agree that he's gone There is no doubt Jenks is non-tendered, but I could see the Sox resigning him to a much lesser deal. Pena is tricky, because he's been terrible, but he's still going to be pretty cheap and he's got a good arm. I think he's back. I agree that Garcia is gone, unless he wants to come back on a very similar deal. I think he can get $5 mill, and the Sox can't afford that. It's possible a starter could be dealt, but I see it happening only in the perfect scenario. Money definitely needs to be freed up, but I don't know how they will go about it exactly My prediction for the opening day lineup Pierre - LF Beckham - 2B Rios - CF Konerko - 1B Quentin - DH Pierzynski - C Ramirez - SS Teahen - RF Morel - 3B

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Sep 28, 2010 -> 01:38 AM) that's why i said i would rather, rather than it will be likely. would you want garcia or pena as your fifth starter, both guys who has shown poor peripherals this season, and will probably get you an ERA closer to 5.00, or a younger guy in Torres who has better chance to succeed than both of those guys going forward? Torres has been in Triple A for 3 years now, and has performed very well the last 2 seasons, i think it would be fair to at least give him a shot in the big leagues. Carlos Torres' game simply does not translate to the MLB, and he really isn't starter quality material. The White Sox know this, which is why they've avoided using him in the rotation as best they can.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 29, 2010 -> 12:06 PM) Well crap, I thought he was making $3M for some reason. I'll edit - I suspect they offer him in the vicinity of $3M for a year, or maybe $2M and a team option at $3M, or the like. FWIW, I didn't even read your post. I was talking about elrock's and sitting there with a 'WTF?' expression on my face.

QUOTE (joeynach @ Sep 29, 2010 -> 06:59 PM) Morel is Joe Randa in the making. Good glove and arm at third, can put the ball in play at a decent clip, and can prolly pop 10 HR a year. I think Morel has better power than that, but they could ultimately be similar players at the end of the day, and that would be great for the Sox.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 29, 2010 -> 10:41 AM) What does that even mean? That's true about every sport. I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking that.

But Eric Hinske and the Braves haven't made it to the postseason yet. (I'm obviously well aware that you are talking about Orlando Cabrera, he of the mammoth .262/.301/.353/.654 line, and yes, it is entirely coincidental. He was and has been a pretty good player, but the Reds would be better off with Paul Janish starting as OC is pretty much past his prime at this point and would be better served in a utility role moving forward)

QUOTE (daggins @ Sep 29, 2010 -> 12:35 AM) I'm not sure the Twin's have that much cash to throw around, what with Mauer getting rich and half the roster reaching arb. Opening a new stadium and bringing in 3+ mill fans along with any revenues that come along with making the playoffs will help them spend a bit more money. I have no doubt that they'll have a higher payroll than the Sox next season.

QUOTE (J.Reedfan8 @ Sep 28, 2010 -> 10:18 PM) That is just so fitting for the Reds. Not to mention it was from a young (and insane potential) player. Jay Bruce since August 8th (31 games, 113 PAs) - .365/.451/.740/1.191, 11 HR

Jay Bruce hit a walk-off homer to propel the Reds to a division championship. That's pretty cool.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 27, 2010 -> 10:45 AM) Is the difference between draft spot 15 and 18 really that big of a deal? The difference between 15 and 16 is a huge deal. The difference between 16 and 18 isn't a big deal whatsoever.

See ya Trent Edwards.

Paul Reuben Sandwich

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 27, 2010 -> 12:49 AM) Nothing more f***ing annoying than that. I remember in 2002 it looked like we were on our way to a 90-loss season and at least a top 10 pick. Then the team, led by Joe Crede who went prime Scott Rolen in September, decides to after sucking all year go 22-12 in their last 34 games and finish up at 81-81. Therefore we ended up with the 18th pick and drafted the mythical Royce Ring. I don't mind when it's a player like Joe Crede leading the cause, because it shows the development of a player (even if Crede was rather mediocre for the next two seasons). If the Sox won out and Brent Morel hit 10 homers along the way, I would be perfectly fine with that.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Sep 24, 2010 -> 01:37 PM) Eh, no. It may have been a failure but in no way to I see it as a game changer making us division champs. If they can win at this clip w/o Morneau, they can do it w/o the aging Thome. I don't see how you can really suggest that. They'd still be winning, because they have a good overall team and they probably would have found some type of competent replacement, but with their current team, there's no one on their roster that is going to replace Jim Thome. I think you are seriously undervaluing Jim Thome (which *never* happened when he was with the Sox). Jim Thome has come on and been like the best hitter in the entire league during the second half of the season. You are going to tell me that the Twins are going to go to the minors and find some ho-hum bum who is going to be the best hitter in the league? (of course, people are going to wisecrack and say "DANNY VALENCIA" and "LEW FORD" and whoever else...none of them are anywhere near Thome) That's due to the incompetence of the manager. Ozzie Guillen didn't think he had enough at-bats for Jim Thome, but that's BS. The Twins, even with Justin Morneau for most of the first half as well as Delmon Young having a breakout season, still managed to get Thome 175 plate appearances in the first half of the season, which is about a 325 PA pace. I also don't buy that Thome would have broken down and missed a ton of time. I agree that Ozzie would have miscast him as the everyday DH in Chicago (when Thome was quite clearly content with playing part time, considering he signed with Minnesota when their roster was packed), but he had one DL stint during the 4 years he was with the Sox, and he still would have been a productive player...an .850 OPS from the left side in the middle of the lineup would have helped a hell of a lot more than a .684 OPS, I can tell you that much for sure. QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 24, 2010 -> 01:49 PM) How do you know the Sox are two games better with Thome? I doubt he comes here and hits the way he did in Minnesota. Maybe having him in the lineup forces Paulie to play more 1st base, and he doesnt have the career year he is having. As I said above, I agree that Thome would not be a 1.000+ OPS monster in Chicago. I figure he probably would have put up an .850 OPS because he would have been misused by Ozzie. But to suggest Konerko is having a career year because he's DH'ed more? I would strongly disagree and would suggest that you are grasping at straws to justify a huge misstep by the Sox. Konerko DH'ed 17 times last year and has DH'ed 21 times this year. He played 134 games in the field last year and has played 121 this season. I would say it's likely that Konerko will probably DH one more time, may (or may not) get a day off, and the differences between the two will be minimal. The main reason Konerko has had the year he's had are because he's been healthy all season (you can argue the contract year stuff too, but I won't). And maybe the Sox sign Jim Thome and his addition does win the division. Maybe Ozzie would have used him correctly and not played him against LHP and gave him scheduled days off and taken care of him with baby gloves, and maybe the Twins don't have a legitimate replacement in the minors, and the players they rotate through the DH spot in the following months put up a Mark Kotsay-ian -0.7 WAR. Using calculated numbers, that could mean White Sox +4.4 wins Twins -4.4 wins That's 9 games, and had 7 of those been in July, when the Sox were up by 3.5 games, it may have been 10.5 and the Twins may have traded Hardy, Hudson, and Pavano and conceded the division to the Sox. I can play that game too. What I like to do instead is look at it ceteris paribus (for the most part, as I discussed above). If Thome has been worth 3-4 wins for the Twins, he certainly would have been worth atleast 2 for the White Sox (unless, of course, he got hurt for an extended period of time, which has only happened to him like once in his entire career). His production would have also saved the Sox from losing games with Mark Kotsay as the DH, so in that regard, it can be viewed at as 3-4 wins added to the Sox. I'm also sure that the Twins would have picked up someone, but I strongly doubt that anyone they picked up would have the resume Thome does, nor would whoever they picked up put up an OPS over 1.000. Of course you can assume that, because there is a mountain of evidence that suggested that Jim Thome was going to be a good hitter this year, and there was another mountain of evidence that suggested Mark Kotsay was not going to be a good hitter. If something happens during the season and circumstances change, then it happens. But the Sox not signing Thome cost them 250% more financially and they'll end up getting 75% less playing time out of it. Is that a sound investment? The oft-overused phrase (sic) "Sometimes the moves you don't make are the best moves of all." I think we can agree that the Sox not signing Thome was one of the worst moves of all, and it's worse when you consider the bigger picture, because the Sox have not made many great moves in the past 18-24 months.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 12:00 AM) Let's discount the 6.32 ERA Hudson put up for the Sox in the AL when they were fighting for a playoff spot. I won't argue about the fact that Hudson will be due like 8-10 million over the next 6 years, while Jackson is due that much in 2011, that makes it a bad move. But plenty of pitchers have showed up to the majors with a hot streak, then been figured out and hit hard, which could happen to Hudson too, hes only 16 starts in. Its funny how everyone around here complains about how bad the Sox system is, but then when someone gets traded, they just get upset about how he good that player is and he should not have been traded. Which is a better sample size...4 starts straight out of the minors, or 11 starts after getting his feet wet? Hudson's a good pitcher, and all the Sox can do right now is hope that Edwin Jackson is better.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 25, 2010 -> 12:51 AM) How much were you drinking freshman year? AJ leading off? PK second? Thome 9th? Great lineup you got there. It's listed in order of position, not in a lineup form.