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QUOTE (the People's Champ @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 12:11 PM) No way to get an RBI there?? Sure there is, it's called a two run homerun. That's probably the only way, cuz Konerko might not score from second on a double. Or he might, but Cox would hold him up.

QUOTE (rcpweiner @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 11:52 AM) Sure, but he didn't have to do it for the money he did. The Sox payroll is $110 million, and they'll have quite a few contracts coming off the books within the next 2 years or so...is $5 mill a year for 2 relievers really that big of a burden?

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 12:04 PM) Or. . . make sure you hurt yourself with one of the recalled bottles and enjoy the lifetime of free beer your lawyer gets for you. I....HAVE...A...PLAN

So, having never been to an actual baseball game with the intent of drinking but with plans to do so sometime within the next 3 years, I now understand the importance of tailgating. $7.25 a f***in beer? Ho-ly s***

If Crede keeps hitting the ball hard, I'm not worried about him (ultimate 'duh' statement). It's when he gets into his 0-4's with a K and 3 popups to the right side when you need to start worrying, because he doesn't walk enough to be able to mask his slumps.

QUOTE (RME JICO @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 11:34 AM) True, but if you strikeout a lot and have a low OBP, then something needs to change. Thome strikes out a ton, but also walks a ton and has a nice OBP. Last year, Fields struck out a lot and had a low OBP (.308). An out is an out, but K's are very important to pitchers because more balls in play equate to a higher probability of a hit/error. A strikeout has basically a zero probability. Now a ball in play can also lead to a double play, etc, but that only occurs in certain situations where a hit/error can occur on every ball put in play. One more year in AAA or until the trading deadline will hopefully help him. I would rather have him play everyday in AAA instead of riding the pine in the bigs with sporadic AB's. Thome is also a career .281 hitter, so he puts the ball into play quite a bit too. His BABIP is .330 for his career, which is above the league average of .290-.300. That's why he can generally get away with striking out as much as he does. Fields actually had a pretty solid IsoOBP last year though too of .064...for a rookie who wasn't making contact much, he shows pretty good potential to be a player that draws quite a few walks in the future. If he can learn how to mash mistake fastballs along with hanging curves and what have you that he already can, he'll probably become a guy who walks 70-80 times a year. If he can't hit the fastball, he probably won't be much more than Troy Glaus without the walks at the plate, and that would result in a player who's not a ton better than league average. Give him a bit of time to get acclimated to major league pitching though and I wouldn't worry too much about him.

I don't feel strikeouts are overrated, but they shouldn't be treated as the ultimate statistic of pitching. Just as a K takes an opportunity away from the opponent for getting a hit, a walk gives away an opportunity for your defense to make an out. So walks, while not equally important, are still rather important. The main reason I use strikeouts is to be able to determine how successful a pitcher should be or how good of stuff they have. Look at the league leaders in K's, watch them pitch, and I'll bet 19 out of 20 of them will have great stuff. It's also a good measure of projectability as well.

QUOTE (bighurt4life @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 12:51 AM) Aardsma made the 25 man roster in Boston this year, bit of a surprise but then again he had an era in the low 1's last season for the first month It doesn't surprise me in the least. I thought Aardsma had the best chance of becoming a setup man out of he, Masset, and MacDougal, and I was pretty disappointed to see him go.

QUOTE (sox-r-us @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 12:28 AM) So you do not care what message this would send to the remaining players on the team, most of whom love Crede (go read Kong, Buerhle, AJP's quotes in the Chicagosports.com article today) when they see their friend/team mate gone despite doing everything right this year (again assuming he continues to play well and stays healthy) .... Hell I might like you if you hit a game winning homer.

QUOTE (sox-r-us @ Apr 7, 2008 -> 11:34 PM) Those who thought that Crede would not be healthy this season were wrong No, that's not right either. We're 7 games into the season. Those that felt he was too injured to begin the year may be wrong, but not those saying his back won't hold up. It's.7.f***ing.games. Seriously, do you not understand this? You can make this determination based off of 7 games. Yep, I forget what Crede...let's recap, shall we? Crede's had one good season, one fantastic postseason, a good 200 PAs or so in 2002, and 4 pretty crappy years, including last year when he was down with an injury for 2/3 of the season. Just a fantastic resume. You also seem to be giving Crede a little bit too much credit for 2005; that's a hell of an insult to the other 30 or so guys that helped propel that team to a World Series victory, and you should quite frankly be ashamed of yourself as a fan. Crede had just as much to do with that World Series victory as anybody did. You take even one piece out of that puzzle and I doubt the team wins it all. Since when are 30 year old 3Bman coming off back surgery young? And, I will once again say that trading Josh Fields would be the biggest mistake KW has ever made. Depends on what you mean by baseball. Are you referencing the game itself, or are you referring more to the economics of the game? Because I'd bet several people on here know the economics of the game better than Buehrle or AJP, determining market price and the value of a certain player over another. And all those metrics will tell you that for the price - yeah, it's a big deal when comparing $12 million to $320K - that Josh Fields will be the more valuable player than Joe Crede next year. So, I'd say get off your high horse and telling everyone you were right. I don't ever recall seeing you toot the Crede horn this offseason, and I wouldn't start talking s*** like this 7 games into the season. I hope you are right, and I'll eat all the crow you can dish out (or put you on ignore because "I told you so attitudes are so goddamn annoying"), and that it means a lot of wins for the White Sox. Making strong conclusions based off of 7 games is like proposing to a girl you've known for 20 minutes.

Your what hurts?

and then he went yard

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 7, 2008 -> 11:31 PM) Quentin's AAA numbers suggest that he's going to get on base at around a .365 clip and slug around .465. From watching him in the field he looks to be a + baserunner (in smarts and speed combined) and also to have a great arm and passable range in either corner. He's also cheap and young -- what's not to like? Only the injury history: hopefully he can stay healthy and give us a good young corner run producing threat. From seeing him play a bit, he looks like he has better power than that. Not disagreeing with the projection or numbers, just saying he does look better than that.

QUOTE (YASNY @ Apr 7, 2008 -> 11:19 PM) But Joe Crede is a below average third baseman. And I'll stand by that statement to this day

QUOTE (BearSox @ Apr 7, 2008 -> 10:47 PM) I know I was a negative little b**** for most of the offseason, but actually seeing good baseball being played has made me all giddy inside. Perhaps the Athletics won't be a better team than the White Sox...?

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 7, 2008 -> 06:42 PM) There's good people, there's bad people, and then there's Rob Bell. lol is there a story too or not?

QUOTE (Texsox @ Apr 7, 2008 -> 07:08 PM) That's confusing. Are you really saying if their careers ended today, Fields would be considered the better player? Wow. I don't think he's suggested anything close to that at all.

He's been great through 7 games. Hopefully he continues it, and hopefully the Sox keep winning.

crede sucks though, how did he do that

but wite works

QUOTE(YASNY @ Apr 7, 2008 -> 11:47 AM) That's smart. Then what? Then he has a smaller strike zone then Eddie Gaedel. On base every time.

QUOTE(danman31 @ Apr 7, 2008 -> 03:42 AM) I think the Sox will finish ahead of the Royals, but KC isn't that terrible this year. If the Sox win less than 75 they won't finish ahead of the Royals. I wouldn't put $50 on that fact. I think their offense is a ways off still, but that pitching staff is turning into a pretty damn talented one. They are going to be a pain in the ass all year long, and with a couple solid additions, could possibly be a force as soon as next year.

I took down 3/4 of a 1.75 of dirty Ron Diaz the other night, so I am not scared.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Apr 6, 2008 -> 10:46 PM) Javy Vazquez will dominate tomorrow, making people all across the globe go, "Chris who?" I apparently will be explaining to 6 billion people tomorrow that his name is Chris Young, the starting CF for the Arizona Diamondbacks who put 32 homers and 27 steals for an upstart team last year, and he currently has splits of .263/.440/.842/1.282 with 3 homers and 2 steals.