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Wouldn’t it be much wiser to double or triple the contracts for all those identifying and developing the young Cleveland pitchers and recruit them to the White Sox organization?

Almost equally important was flipping another higher pick, Daz Cameron and pieces, for Verlander. And then how they got their hands on Yordan Alvarez, yet another huge piece of the puzzle.

Yes, you are...

OK, Boomer...

Yes, the inevitable Vaughn/Burger at second nonsense again...

Well, we can all hope that Chris Getz wouldn't be so off in an evaluation...especially as the gritty/grindy type who never possessed any of the physical talent easily accessible from the Luis Robert Tool Chest. For example, Ben Sheets' future power scouting numbers from 2-3 years ago would be pretty interesting to look back at in retrospect.

Sure, if we didn’t have 4-8 week mandatory quarantines upon returning to China. Also, International flights still down 97.8% from two years ago, so ticket prices are through the roof…even for Korea.

Depends entirely on your appraisal of Burger…or Vaughn at third.

https://www.fueledbysports.com/chicago-white-sox-first-round-draft-picks/ Not many teams could successfully "blow" 2015-2018 and be so well positioned, lol? If you include Rodon now, it's actually a five year time period wandering in the wilderness...outside of Sheets and maybe Burger (potentially) being 2022 contributors or more likely trade chips. P.S. Certainly Rodon contributed a lot in 2021 after "testing" quite limited FA, but not as much as was universally expected based on his position in the draft. Obviously, more than Kolek and Aiken, though.

Well, therein lies the question. Without those three players (and you can add in the Frazier/Robertson trade as 3 1/2) to jump start things...how long would it have taken the White Sox to get to the position they're in today? You can argue that Tatis and Robert (at least potentially) offset each other, or will eventually, but I suppose it's possible looking at how things played out we would have not made the playoffs in either year. The reality is that White Sox fans, after suffering roughly a decade...I don't think they would have had the patience like KC/Houston/Cubs fans to go through a complete rebuild...basically starting from scratch and building through the June draft, FA and international markets. The Padres, for instance, also "rushed" their rebuild in an effort to catch the Dodgers a year or two before they were originally projected to, and it imploded in dramatic fashion. It's just that now we're unfortunately in a situation where we're lacking the finishing/"put us over the top" pieces and our trade chips are at an all-time low with a #30 farm system. Time will tell, I guess, what they do when/if he lockout's over and the market conditions for MLB settle into a more predictable financial landscape. History might say that 2021 (with Rodon and Lynn) was the year to really push and put all the chips in (RF, for example)...instead of waiting. Obviously, they made the Kimbrel trade, which is still impacting the future outlook of the team until that's cleared up or clarified one way or the other.

Sure, but it does put more pressure on the Sox to clear him quickly when this flurry of moves eventually takes place...as they will be more unlikely to add a larger contract like Conforto with Kimbrel still occupying that 2022 payroll space.

Right...in the postseason, TOR starters largely reign, or at least guys like McCullers. What works in the regular season inexorably falls apart without Glasgow. It's the cheapest, most coat efficient way for that particular market, of course. It's also not so much fun for fans, comparable to excessive shifting.

Let’s get through another full season before confirming that as a universal phenomenon…most teams still don’t follow the Rays’ path, and they have suffered a number of very high profile pitching injuries as well. Glasnow, McKay, Honeywell, etc.

That might be a more balanced trade if you consider that Glasnow was likely to miss all of 2022 while adding to payroll…

He’s got a much more extensive record of performance than, let’s say, Cesar Hernandez. If they want to dump him, the Sox should be quite interested. Plus, the AL Central isn’t nearly as competitive as the AL East. Solves the Conforto lineup balancing quandary without the 4-6 year commitment.

Invest that $30 million in SoxTalk SPAC and eventual take to market via IPO…everyone can be millionaires like BuzzFeed. Or to create the best analytics department in baseball, one that is the envy of all.

No way in H.E. double hockey sticks LL

Or post-season...the Rays' downfall.

He's now essentially on a four year, $79 million contract. The odds of an MVP for either Yoan or Buxton are approximately equal, as are their risk/reward scenarios financially. You could even argue Buxton financially has more of an incentive with those Top Ten MVP vote escalators built into his deal. Both top overall prospects in the game at similar career crossroads in terms of putting together one full totally dominant season. Moncada's 2019 is the closest...but then Covid and new baseballs.

It means we better not sign a cheap starter at under $6 million and expect a repeat of 2021 Rodon and Lynn…as they were paid a total of $11.5 million for a whopping 9.1 fWAR. It was an occurrence that’s usually only once or twice a decade with the White Sox, that a FA or acquired pitcher puts up those kind of numbers.

I guess he was pretty much the bottom of the barrel, due to his availability to the rest of MLB...and despite having a really decent fWAR one of those years. Maybe a case of misleading numbers, where the player doesn't equal the sum of all those parts in the clubhouse. Hasn't had a bWAR over 2+ since 2016 with the Brewers. Five different teams over the last five seasons. https://www.fangraphs.com/players/jonathan-villar/10071/stats?position=2B/SS Interestingly, Fangraphs had him at 3.9 fWAR (0.0 bWAR) after playing with Baltimore in 2019, they still didn't protect him on the roster. 2.1fWAR for 2021 with the Mets. Negative defensive ratings for 4 years in a row. Getting older.

They're really going to trust Suzuki as a starter but not Gallo, based on what?

Kimbrel…

Yuck. Another $7-9 million on this bullpen, would make it far and away the most expensive in MLB. And you are unlikely to get a repeat out of Tepera, but you're buying high on him, too.

They had seven shots inside the five in that quarter and couldn't score. Guess that was the high point of the Iowa effort against Michigan...oh, well.