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They would probably want Sheets and Burger…as they’re still likely to trade Olson. Chapman needs to build his value back first half.

One guy like Taylor or Schwarber…highly doubt we get two, and that would practically guarantee we start trading guys like Vaughn, Crochet and Sheets for 2B/SP. That’s still going to be at least $140-150 million between just those two. Also don’t see Conforto and Taylor combined, that would be closer to $160-175 million.

Thank god it isn’t Correa. Now where does he go now? Baddoo, Baez, Greene, Torkelson, Cabrera, Candelario, Schoop, Barnhart, Grossman ERod, Mize, Skubal, Manning, Alexander/Fulmer

Why would you want to cheer for one of the worst teams in baseball the next 3-4 seasons? To further punish yourself for being a White Sox fan, and basically enduring ten lost years on baseball....to another lost half decade of the Cubs? Not the most logical bandwagon switch. Maybe try USC football, or something. LSU, if you're a Kelly fan.

It has been pretty rare for young hitters to come up and dominate since Covid...but if Torkelson and Greene are as good as advertised and Correa signs (and stays healthy), they can put a scare into the White Sox. A lot depends on the continued progress of Manning and Casey Mize. That's quite a bit to go right, and they're still relying on a number of complementary pieces like Candelario, Baddoo and whoever they have catching, but you just never know. They're the kind of team who could pick up the same sort of big bopper OF/DH guys like a Hunter Renfroe/F.Reyes and all the guys the Braves brought in for the second half and suddenly have a pretty decent defense. Just depends on Correa liking Detroit and Hinch enough...AND $$$$$. The son has never opened the financial spigots like the father.

2010 and 2012 seasons (until final two weeks) were entertaining. 2014, you had Abreu added to the team and a breakout ROY/MVPish season. 2016 was nice for 33 games....and there's also the building excitement over those subsequent 3-4 years of rebuilding...to something much better than "mired in mediocrity." Now you have kind of a sense of waiting for what's next, and the organization's progress being at something of a crossroads, especially with a manager of LaRussa's age and owner at Reinsdorf's. If you're standing still this week, you're falling behind. Fortunately, most of the real contenders in the AL still have mostly been sitting it out on the sidelines, but we still have some time remaining before everything gets frozen in place.

This might be the most depressing thing I've read the entire off season, and there's frankly a LOT to choose from. But ESPECIALLY if it were to preclude addressing 2B and/or RF...his lingering presence on the payroll.

Decision-making time frame seems way too Hahn-esque.

$18 million per year seems about right, in the range of the QO but over a much longer time frame due to his age, LHedness and past results before 2021. The only question is how many of those teams who haven't yet joined the spending spree desperately need a RFer.

Ever at over $90 million?

Eflin has averaged 1.875 fWAR for the last four seasons...they're not just going to give him away for free. Only one year remaining before FA, projected to get $5.5 million.

Unless you are the Giants or Rays or Rangers (Minor/Gibson/Lynn), if you try to beat the odds with these bargain basement pitching signings, you'll more often than not end up with guys like Jake Arrieta or The Dark Knight giving them one too many chances at the end of their careers. You can capture lightning in a bottle, like the Giants this season, but it's almost impossible to sustain? When's the last time the White Sox actually drafted and developed an impactful starting pitcher? Chris Sale. One year of Cralos Isle of Rodon. Maybe it will be Vera, but the track record over the last decade with guys like Carson Fulmer hasn't been all that great. Crochet just wasted another year. Just look at all those second round draft picks that never amounted to anything, for example. We're still largely relying on the fruits of the Sale, Eaton and Q trades, along with Luis Robert.

So we should give Tepera $10 million to return by this argument...?

Treinen, Graterol and probably Jansen back. Someone will try out Joe Kelly as a closer, so another landing spot for Kimbrel off the board. Wouldn't be shocked to see Iglesias back with LAA.

The injury history and fact that Seager will likely have to move off SS at some point make Correa the better choice. Seager made more sense for the Sox, simply because LH/playoff-proven/would be able to player other positions more willingly than Correa, such as 3B and 2B (which is where he would be with the Sox). Well, let's just say it would be a shocker if Anderson would willingly give up SS for anyone but Correa.

Can really envision the White Sox taking a low risk go at Duffy since already so familiar with Central. Health...who knows? But any pitcher in that $8-12 million range will come with warts. Probably a deal based around a ton of incentives.

Seems the Giants really need to keep him if they want to continue to compete in that division. Plus, much closer to Las Vegas. Story is going to get way too much money from someone missing out on Correa...and not satisfied with Baez's erratic offense.

Not unless Ron and/or Jose Abreu are somehow involved. Or Greg775's palatial Lawrence estate.

That's probably not the ideal way to do it...by further enriching the Ricketts Family. Like changing from Miller Lite to Budweiser.

Well, try losing your coach to USC and half your recruiting class at a critical juncture and facing the same fate as Nebraska, Arkansas, Missouri, Texas A&M and Colorado by joining the SEC, at least until Saban retires. Two years ago might be the last OU BCS team for a number of years...if not a decade.

Boston, NYY, Houston, LAA, Seattle, SFG, SD, LAD, pretty much the entire NL East, Cardinals, Cubs… What are the odds of beating out all of those clubs for one of the 3-4 position players we’d actually be satisfied with? We had the open lane with Machado and Harper, and then Wheeler. Now that door has pretty much been slammed shut to add a star player externally. And we might end up this year having lost/traded/got nothing in return of value for THREE Top 4 overall draft picks because we weren’t willing to spend money in FA at premium positions and were forced to trade from our last remaining area of strength…our MLB positional player depth chart along with Crochet, yet another 1st rounder. Those three young guys were supposed to be the next wave and keep the payrolls relatively reasonable. Even that’s in danger of disappearing in this crazily distorted (by two teams) market.

You can see a pitcher slipping between the cracks, but a lot of teams have hardly done anything as well and will be chasing after the same 3-5 position players as the White Sox. Plus, it’s going to depress season ticket sales/deposits with the threat of a strike and no interesting new player moves if this drags on and on…had they gotten to the ALCS, it would be a slightly different story at least.

He also went to OU like Hansen, so never underestimate comfort factor, Arlington being so close to Shawnee…just down I-35 a few hours. Not to mention OKC had Rangers connections through the 89ers for years and years, 85% must grow up Rangers’ fans in that area, the rest KC, Houston, Rockies or Cardinals.

You forgot losing Heuer as well, which might require another $7-8ish million on a Tepera/Neris or similar signing. Basically $20-22 million in completely unnecessary additional spending…which could have gone to a Gausman, Conforto, Story, Taylor or whatever high quality player that actually would have moved our WS odds up appreciably. ”But we spent the money!l!” But, as usual, it wasn’t allocated wisely or efficiently. See RF/DH for a decade, as well as Friends & Family Spending.

And it would even somehow manage to discourage season ticket buyers in the process…it’s actually pretty telling that the increases in gas and food/grocery prices in recent months is right in line with the Scherzer increase over highest AAV. Around 15-20%. But who would have thought Fed easy money policy, Cohen overspending and inflation would be the Sox downfall, vis a vis the convenient villain which is JR’s anti-union advocacy?