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How old were those players when their long term extensions ran out? How old will Baez be? 35 is not even close to late 30’s/early 40’s now, is it? It’s not going to financially hamstring the Tigers in any way, shape or form.

But those playoff numbers erased that…

Yankees. SF had a career year out of Crawford, unless they’re moving him to 2B. Yankees seem like the obvious choice, though.

But still only 35 at the end. Compare to the Cano, Miggy and Pujols deals.

Should change title to seven years instead of six. Baez 28, Conforto 29, so likely now six for for Conforto. Our seat at the party is simply 14.3% smaller than everyone else’s.

“Detroit has spent most of the past five years in a prolonged rebuilding effort but has managed to stockpile an enviable farm system that now leaves the team on the precipice of turning the corner. Young starters Casey Mize, Tarik Skubal and Matt Manning will be expected to team with Rodriguez in leading the starting staff, while 2020 No. 1 overall pick Spencer Torkelson and 2019 No. 5 overall pick Riley Greene are both viewed as top-10 leaguewide prospects and potential lineup anchors. That blossoming young core makes it easy for Detroit, a team that has previously trotted out Opening Day payrolls north of $200MM, to spend heavily in free agency this winter. Miguel Cabrera is signed through the 2023 season, but the only player on the books beyond that point is the aforementioned Rodriguez. Roster Resource’s Jason Martinez projects a $104MM payroll without Baez next season, and that’s before the likely non-tender of Matthew Boyd and his $7.3MM projected salary (courtesy of MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz). With that in mind, even if this is the last marquee move of the offseason for the Tigers — and, to be clear, there’s no indication that’s the case — the additions of Baez and Rodriguez clearly set the stage for a return to aggressive adding in Detroit. The Tigers will have one more high-end draft pick in 2022, but the goal for the team is clearly to shift into win-now mode, and the additions of both Baez and Rodriguez are notable steps in that direction. Baez has averaged a hefty 4.6 wins above replacement (per Baseball-Reference) per season over the past four years, even including that ugly 2020 campaign, and the Tigers will count on him for more of the same as a linchpin both in the lineup and on defense as they turn the page from a rebuild the fans are all too ready to leave in the rear-view mirror.” mlbtraderumors.com

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They would probably want Sheets and Burger…as they’re still likely to trade Olson. Chapman needs to build his value back first half.

One guy like Taylor or Schwarber…highly doubt we get two, and that would practically guarantee we start trading guys like Vaughn, Crochet and Sheets for 2B/SP. That’s still going to be at least $140-150 million between just those two. Also don’t see Conforto and Taylor combined, that would be closer to $160-175 million.

Thank god it isn’t Correa. Now where does he go now? Baddoo, Baez, Greene, Torkelson, Cabrera, Candelario, Schoop, Barnhart, Grossman ERod, Mize, Skubal, Manning, Alexander/Fulmer

Why would you want to cheer for one of the worst teams in baseball the next 3-4 seasons? To further punish yourself for being a White Sox fan, and basically enduring ten lost years on baseball....to another lost half decade of the Cubs? Not the most logical bandwagon switch. Maybe try USC football, or something. LSU, if you're a Kelly fan.

It has been pretty rare for young hitters to come up and dominate since Covid...but if Torkelson and Greene are as good as advertised and Correa signs (and stays healthy), they can put a scare into the White Sox. A lot depends on the continued progress of Manning and Casey Mize. That's quite a bit to go right, and they're still relying on a number of complementary pieces like Candelario, Baddoo and whoever they have catching, but you just never know. They're the kind of team who could pick up the same sort of big bopper OF/DH guys like a Hunter Renfroe/F.Reyes and all the guys the Braves brought in for the second half and suddenly have a pretty decent defense. Just depends on Correa liking Detroit and Hinch enough...AND $$$$$. The son has never opened the financial spigots like the father.

2010 and 2012 seasons (until final two weeks) were entertaining. 2014, you had Abreu added to the team and a breakout ROY/MVPish season. 2016 was nice for 33 games....and there's also the building excitement over those subsequent 3-4 years of rebuilding...to something much better than "mired in mediocrity." Now you have kind of a sense of waiting for what's next, and the organization's progress being at something of a crossroads, especially with a manager of LaRussa's age and owner at Reinsdorf's. If you're standing still this week, you're falling behind. Fortunately, most of the real contenders in the AL still have mostly been sitting it out on the sidelines, but we still have some time remaining before everything gets frozen in place.

This might be the most depressing thing I've read the entire off season, and there's frankly a LOT to choose from. But ESPECIALLY if it were to preclude addressing 2B and/or RF...his lingering presence on the payroll.

Decision-making time frame seems way too Hahn-esque.

$18 million per year seems about right, in the range of the QO but over a much longer time frame due to his age, LHedness and past results before 2021. The only question is how many of those teams who haven't yet joined the spending spree desperately need a RFer.

Ever at over $90 million?

Eflin has averaged 1.875 fWAR for the last four seasons...they're not just going to give him away for free. Only one year remaining before FA, projected to get $5.5 million.

Unless you are the Giants or Rays or Rangers (Minor/Gibson/Lynn), if you try to beat the odds with these bargain basement pitching signings, you'll more often than not end up with guys like Jake Arrieta or The Dark Knight giving them one too many chances at the end of their careers. You can capture lightning in a bottle, like the Giants this season, but it's almost impossible to sustain? When's the last time the White Sox actually drafted and developed an impactful starting pitcher? Chris Sale. One year of Cralos Isle of Rodon. Maybe it will be Vera, but the track record over the last decade with guys like Carson Fulmer hasn't been all that great. Crochet just wasted another year. Just look at all those second round draft picks that never amounted to anything, for example. We're still largely relying on the fruits of the Sale, Eaton and Q trades, along with Luis Robert.

So we should give Tepera $10 million to return by this argument...?

Treinen, Graterol and probably Jansen back. Someone will try out Joe Kelly as a closer, so another landing spot for Kimbrel off the board. Wouldn't be shocked to see Iglesias back with LAA.

The injury history and fact that Seager will likely have to move off SS at some point make Correa the better choice. Seager made more sense for the Sox, simply because LH/playoff-proven/would be able to player other positions more willingly than Correa, such as 3B and 2B (which is where he would be with the Sox). Well, let's just say it would be a shocker if Anderson would willingly give up SS for anyone but Correa.

Can really envision the White Sox taking a low risk go at Duffy since already so familiar with Central. Health...who knows? But any pitcher in that $8-12 million range will come with warts. Probably a deal based around a ton of incentives.

Seems the Giants really need to keep him if they want to continue to compete in that division. Plus, much closer to Las Vegas. Story is going to get way too much money from someone missing out on Correa...and not satisfied with Baez's erratic offense.

Not unless Ron and/or Jose Abreu are somehow involved. Or Greg775's palatial Lawrence estate.