caulfield12
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Viewing Topic: 7/18, Sox @ Blue Jays, 7:07 AM Uninhabited Baker Island Time
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Eloy officially got paid
Not bad.
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Eloy officially got paid
Why $120 million when it was $125-135 million a decade ago? The White Sox are the only team that can magically compete in the face of inflation and have declining payrolls with higher/increasing win totals? Couldn’t Hahn’s son simply pick 5-6 random FA’s out of a hat and spend $45 million more effectively just by random probability?
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Eloy officially got paid
So we should now go by BRef numbers only when it suits our argument? It is idiotic to give that contract to a two tool player but not a true five tool one that can consistently put up 4-6 fWAR seasons at a minimum. If he plays negative defense (I’ve watched him quite a bit this spring, he’s made one nice play...but had to dive because of his lack of range), and doesn’t have much an arm and can’t run that well, why do we have to make this offer two full years of big league before the greatest player in baseball history got an extension offer from the Angels? What’s the rush, all of a sudden?
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Eloy officially got paid
But this is just ONE year, not 2-3. And why wouldn’t they have been convinced to offer the same deal to Moncada as well? Simply because the $32 million in the bank made it unpalatable? Shouldnt they have considered that before acquiring Moncada and Robert, that they would be much less desperate to extend with a life-altering deal of guaranteed extension dollars?
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Sox vs. Dodgers Wednesday the 13th
You might want to save that to copy and paste on your online draft/clipboard...this won’t be the last occasion to break it out.
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Eloy officially got paid
The main player he and Alonso are blocking is Palka...after Jimenez comes up for LF.
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Eloy officially got paid
I would honestly rather run Fulmer and Hansen out there on a wing and a prayer and hope one of them clicks. Even Covey and Banuelos, and allocate that extra money to Machado. Better yet, G. Gonzalez for $5-6 million, even $7.5 for Gio to mentor Rodon as a fellow lefty. Why did we need two quasi closers in Herrera and Colome when we already had Jones and Fry...not to mention our minor league relief depth was supposedly our single “market niche” or advantage over other teams going into this offseason.
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Eloy officially got paid
Check back with us when Eloy puts up a 10 fWAR...or sells more jerseys than any player in the history of professional sports the first day. Will they even carry Jimenez jerseys after getting burned on Moncada, Rodon and Giolito? He might need to first hit 30+ homers with a .275 to .280 average before they commit to a mass jersey production run.
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Eloy officially got paid
Why not just give another $75-85 million to Moncada so we can control him through 2024 instead of 2023...? Would anyone be elated NOW if we had given a similar deal to Moncada in 2017? Or Giolito? Or Kopech? I think or at least hope....certainly not.
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Eloy officially got paid
Fine, go ahead and spend $100 million and another $9 million for 1.1 fWAR Nova and $9 million for 0.7 Alonso while giving away 2.1 fWAR Narvaez with four remaining years of control and 27 year old Avi Garcia.
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Eloy officially got paid
Not in their first years. Anderson was the earliest. We should just wait for Lindor after 2021...then finally win AL Central in 2022. Trout and Posey after 2 years. Freeman 3 years. Braun and Kyle Seager 3 years. Those are the only ones with under 3 years of service to get $100 million+ extensions. The White Sox are fucking nuts. Wil Myers 3+, CarGo 2+. Justin Morneau, 3+ for 6 years and $80 million in 2008, Hanley Ramirez, 2+ years of service, 6 year deal for $70 million in 2008, Alex Rios (yes, a reminder of what can go wrong) $70 million over seven years after 3 years of service, Mike Mikolas after 2+ years, 4/$68 million. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/extension tracker
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What Kind of Rebuild is This?
He's most definitely not easing up on Reinsdorf...quite the opposite, actually.
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Eloy officially got paid
Because they had no clue SD was going to blow their deal out of the water in terms of guaranteed dollars...not enough due diligence of competitor, relationship between Machado and Tatis, Jr., their shared agent, etc.
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Eloy officially got paid
$68.5 million nope, it's Abreu original deal in 2014.
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Eloy officially got paid
They officially agreed at the two hour lunch with the Padres.
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Sox vs. Dodgers Wednesday the 13th
Then we can trade him for the equivalent of Cordell...or Leury.
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Eloy officially got paid
What other above average tools does Jimenez have? 2/5. Hit for average. Hit for power. Average to below average fielder (see Avi), below average arm (maybe "par" for LF) and slow foot speed...which will likely slow down over time as he puts on more weight.
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Eloy officially got paid
I can't even imagine most White Sox fans would think this was a good idea...and simply PR spin to show that they're not cheap and are suddenly willing to dole out "long-term" contracts. Just idiotic for a player who has to hit like Manny Ramirez in LF to be really valuable in today's game.
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Eloy officially got paid
White Sox are NOT cheap, they're now too generous to totally unproven players...THANK GOD they didn't sign Moncada to this type of deal at some point early in the 2017 minor league season when he was tearing up Charlotte.
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Sox vs. Dodgers Wednesday the 13th
THREE CONSECUTIVE WALKS!!!! OBP/MONEYBALL RULES!
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What Kind of Rebuild is This?
Those were far and away the most talented teams the White Sox (have) had since the late 1950's. 1967, 1977 and 1983 were more anomalies in a miasma of mediocrity.
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What Kind of Rebuild is This?
1990-93 was great...especially that unexpected '90 season in the final year of Old Comiskey.
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Eloy officially got paid
CAN NO LONGER TRUST GOMEZ! JK, Hector. We still love you White Sox enthusiasm...you did your job, reported the ongoing/developing situation with Machado accurately until the final 10 days when everything changed.
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Spring Training Thread
5.59 ERA should fit in nicely... Who the heck is Ma.Cabrera?
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Spring Training Thread
How many tickets do his antics sell? At least they're more entertaining than Melky's theatrics, I guess. In other news, Machado has just a 631 spring OPS but the Padres are simply destroying their opponents.