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That second pitch to Tim wasn't close to a strike. But he doesn't let it affect him. Nice approach back up the middle. Renteria is a candidate for Manager of the Year to have THIS team with the 7th best RS/RA differential in all of MLB. Those top six are all "superpower" teams. Too bad we couldn't get Timmy into scoring position and knock another run off that deficit.

QUOTE (oldsox @ May 30, 2017 -> 07:37 PM) This loss is on Renteria. Well, it's hard to blame him for not wanting to try to get at least one more inning out of Q and see if he could finally settle into the game with the White Sox back into it...I'm not going to be angry about it, because TOR starters have to battle through those setbacks when they don't have their best stuff. The bullpen has really been taxed by nearly all of the Sox starters this season, especially Covey and Pelfrey. And still don't think this game is quite over....not just yet.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 30, 2017 -> 07:35 PM) Yeah god help us if those are the top talents the Sox are relying on. Outside of Hansen, those are guys that should have been complimentary pieces Totally forgot about Hansen for a second. He's perhaps the brightest bright spot, along with Kopech. But I'm remaining skeptical until he can start repeating those numbers in the Carolina League.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ May 30, 2017 -> 07:29 PM) Not 100% true. Dunning, Hansen, Adams, Guerrero, & Cooper have done well. And Lopez was pitching very well before his recent meltdown. But obviously some big dissapointments with the guys you mentioned. Sure, even Tyler Danish looked okay despite his early game struggles. The problem is that none of those guys (other than possibly Dunning) profile as anything more than back of the rotation guys. Dunning was projected by most scouts to be a 3/4 type of guy, at least. But unless he can really develop/refine his secondary pitches, he's going to struggle. He got away with mostly his fastball in the SALLY League, but then hit a wall with better hitters in Advanced A. Adams has never lived up to that early athletic potential and "frame" projection...in terms of increasing his velocity from 89-92 into the mid 90's. Q now with a 5.60 ERA That has been FIVE innings with 4 or more runs given up this year, and TWO IN A SINGLE GAME. Just think he buckled under the pressure of facing Sale, and you wouldn't have predicted that with how cool he's been for most of his major league career with the Sox.

You've gotta be BLEEPING ME!!!! Miss Harrelson tonight.

Desperately needed that K. Q's best fastball this inning has been 93.2, but mostly 91-92. Hard to see an argument that he's injured. He might be a tick lower with his velocity this year, but you'd have to look at FG.

Between Q, Rodon, Giolito (until recently), Lopez, Fulmer...it's a mystifying season for almost all of the Sox pitching prospects other than Kopech. And this game's on a 4+ hour pace. Good god, it has been slow. More like 4 1/2 hours.

The biggest issue with Jose is that lack of a dominating put-away pitch. It's why TOR has been doubted, despite the numbers (and the same arguments were made about Buehrle, who threw 3-4 mph slower). He's more like a Tommy Glavine, that has to get away with precise control and work ahead in counts to keep hitters off balance.

Avi 913 Abreu 870 Davidson 853 Sanchez 793 Leury 790 Melky 715 Sale at 61 pitches, 2.64 ERA now. Gardner and Holliday with two homers a piece, that Yankees' line-up is just mowing down everyone. Looks like they and the Astros are the two best AL teams.

Yes, JOSE!!!!!! Way to hang with 'em. Really making Sale work as well tonight. Both are going to be lucky to go 5.

QUOTE (Wanne @ May 30, 2017 -> 07:06 PM) Quintana/Schwarber trade makes so much sense....honestly...they're not doing either team any good. Glad you're not managing my investment portfolio. Now is not the time to panic. Sell when everyone's super confident, buy when there's fear in the atmosphere.

White Sox don't give up this year like they did pretty much the entire second half last season....well, most of the 2013-16 Sox teams, for that matter, when dealing with adversity.

QUOTE (soxfan49 @ May 30, 2017 -> 07:00 PM) What if Tim Anderson sucks? Well, that would be a terrible development considering how Q, Rodon and Anderson were the 3 most important members of the franchise coming into 2017. At least Melky's back over a 700 OPS...gets it up to 750+ and he'll be a lot easier to trade without eating so much salary.

QUOTE (JoshPR @ May 30, 2017 -> 07:00 PM) Hes 1-6 this season. Last year he was decent Outside of his W/L record, his numbers are actually pretty good this year. The Giants just suck, other than Posey and an injured Bumgarner. They'll probably put both Cueto and Shark on the market and see who bites.

Anyone want to put an over/under on Sale strikeouts tonight? 13 or 14? At least the Jose Berrios/Astros match-up is compelling...and seeing how far Schwarber can sink.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 30, 2017 -> 06:55 PM) We have no idea what they offered. All indications are the packages sucked Is Luhnow really going to admit that he almost traded Kyle Tucker for Q now? We'll never know, unless someone hacks into their database again.

Yeah, you can stick a fork in that idea. So they either trade him or pray to God Rodon's okay and do everything possible to compete in 2019 and 2020 with both of those guys anchoring the rotation along with the youngsters. For some reason, Q's value will never be apparent to anyone outside of the White Sox fan community and some "sabes dudes in mom's basement."

Indians have blown up Sonny Gray's ERA into the mid 4's from 3.05 entering tonight.

Insurance CEO: I’m raising Obamacare premiums because of Trump (by 22.9%, BCBS in NC) https://www.vox.com/2017/5/30/15701986/blue...macare-premiums

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/house-cards-s5-rev...-155016690.html Speaking of going off the deep end, a new season of House of Cards has finally landed with Trump-like overtones. https://www.yahoo.com/news/congratulations-...-213714952.html Congrats to new WH Communications Director Jared Kushner http://nypost.com/2017/05/30/trump-wants-s...d-easy-for-him/ Trump wants Senate to make things fast and easy for him, go to a more convenient 51 votes on all bills instead of 60 "The U.S. Senate should switch to 51 votes, immediately, and get Healthcare and TAX CUTS approved, fast and easy. Dems would do it, no doubt!​,” he wrote on Twitter. ​ Looks like Kathy Griffin finally was able to spark more controversy than the latest Ariel Winter bikini pics at Instagram. Wonder if the Secret Service will have her arrested? At least Fox News has a new story for the next 24-48 hours.

QUOTE (raBBit @ May 30, 2017 -> 10:17 AM) This has probably been the most popular thread on the entire board since January and it seems caulfield has killed it. Insightful. I thought only liberals whined and complained about everything? When something of significance actually occurs, like Jared getting fired or Spicer quitting, this thread will light up again.

Why is Hickman still listed as a catcher?

Just more flippant comments. Biden runs for president, despite his family's personal difficulties, and he beats Trump, we're not having this conversation. Merrick Garland is still probably blocked by the GOP for some other lame excuse, though. Then again, Rabbit investigative journalism on the Biden sons' marital relations might have turned the tide to the GOP.

QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ May 30, 2017 -> 02:42 PM) I would like to see the data that confirms this because I'm certain many Republicans have received and do receive help from the government. There are plenty of poor Republicans. Actual members of Congress, like Mulvaney was...who seem to posit themselves as experts on poverty solutions and what the poor really need. Not voters from Appalachia, the Deep South or Rust Belt. At any rate, I do find it comical that how many of the members of the House and Senate have children serving in the military today, active duty? Something like 5 or less out of 538? Yet they are always the first to vote to put other parents' children in harm's way. Yet another form of privilege the Trump family enjoys, never having to serve in the "real" military in wartime, and by this I don't mean being sent away by his dad to a fancy military academy. Yet how many minority parents have to send their kids to the military because they can't afford to pay for a higher level education? P.S. Rabbit, can you please set up a poll to determine how many "trust" your political and finance diatribes compared to all of your fellow moderators? The number is going to be a LOT lower than 50%, but it's probably best you are spared from having to do any self-reflection on how you come across sometime. At least Reddy is open about wanting to improve and seeks to write with more humility and self-awareness. Can you stand the same amount of heat he has taken and not get rattled? Without making up excuses or rationalizations?

QUOTE (raBBit @ May 30, 2017 -> 10:45 AM) Caulfield how you don't understand how ridiculous and irrelevant and tangential your form of discourse is beyond me. For someone who claims to be such an academic performer I don't get how you don't understand that you start an argument (whether it's on topic to the post you quoted or not), the next sentence will have nothing to do with your initial argument and then you continue to do this multiple times over the same post and create visual diareaah with the links, bolds, italics, inability to use the quote function, etc. I mean, in this case, you never even acknowledge my post or the point of the thread that you started. You just barfed some of your irrelevant beliefs, posted some links that have nothing to do with anything, and of course brought Trump into something that has nothing to do with him. I swear I have a better chance of having a coherent exchange with a freshly stirred bowl of alphabet soup than I do with you. You are the most insightful and mature writer here at SoxTalk, and perhaps we should all just bow down and worship your greatness...a greatness that was wholly earned by you and based 100% on hard work, diligence and persistence. I'm actually quite surprised, shocked might be the better word, that a bevy of national political publications haven't come out of the woodwork and attempted to hire you by now.