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And who exactly would the Pirates even want from us for McCutcheon...? There's no talent match. It's back to the same situation we faced trying to get CarGo in the offseason. Franchise players aren't easily traded.

Reddick wants a four or five year deal and will get it. Pirates are all-in next year and they're getting lots of reinforcements from the top of their minors. They traded Melancon and Liriano, but McCutcheon is the heart of that franchise and his value is way down from a year ago. It would be like the White Sox trading Abreu entering this offseason. He won't be dealt, unless a team is willing to pay in value for the 2014-15 MVP version. Desmond will get four or five years due to his age and versatility. Sox could have had him for $8+ million and turned him into a compensation pick. Fowler wants to play for the Sox about as much as LaStella or Justin Upton.

KW spent twice as much on Manny Ramirez...let's do it.

The Astros will be fine, just like the Pirates. We can talk about Aiken or Bryant, but they have Bregman, Gurriel and Tucker, too. I watched Tucker in the Quad Cities last month...he's at least two years away, but Bregman and Gurriel will be there from the beginning of 2017. They just need a better starting rotation. And for AJ Reed to figure out things...

QUOTE (ptatc @ Aug 10, 2016 -> 11:01 PM) That's not always a bad thing. Sometimes, especially with really cocky players, they need that. There are guys like Rodon who really have nothing else to prove in the minors as they pitched well there and they need to learn to get MLB hitters out. Rodon has command issues but with stuff. The minor hitters swung at that but the MLB hitters don't he needs to learn at the MLB. Fulmer was going to be in the pen due to the innings limit so why not try him against the MLB to see how he performs but also how he handles the situations. I'm not saying it's definitely the right move but I can see the reasoning behind it. The concern is what might be wrong physically with Fulmer...he should be throwing mid to high 90s out of the pen, in single inning bursts. Not just 90-93. And with Rodon, they should have given him more time to master the change. He could dominate in the minors with either the fastball, slider or really just one pitch. The problem in the majors has been the lack of confidence to throw it enough for it to be an effective pitch...where big league hitters have it in the back of their mind like with Sale, Q or Buehrle. That's something that's much more difficult to experiment with at the nig league level. He reverts to his usual habits when struggling, which is normal but might not to be helpful until he learns to vary his repertoire more. The biggest concern with Rodon might be his unwillingness to use his A fastball on a consistent basis...out of some misguided desire to emulate Sale, who has much better command and can get away with lower velocities due to location. Rodon gets tattoed when behind in the count and forced to come in at 91-94 mph. If he's not throwing a change, he needs to be at 95-97, touching 98 to be truly effective as a starter.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Aug 10, 2016 -> 10:50 PM) Baltimore Toronto Tampa Bay Cleveland Detroit Minnesota Texas Seattle Houston LA Angels Oakland Washington Miami NY Mets Cubs Pittsburgh milwaukee Cincinnati LA Dodgers Colorado San Diego Arizona These are all of the teams who have NOT won a World series since the Sox have. You've just provided Brooks Boyer his marketing campaign for next season, unfortunately.

That was predictable. DFA Hahn or Albers. One of them will suffice. Why did we bring up Coats again?

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 10, 2016 -> 10:43 PM) Really don't know what more Albers needs to do to get DFA. Rather see Ynoa or Fulmer get a chance here. This would be a learning opportunity for those guys, Kanhle....basically anyone else BUT Albers. At least some things don't change much. Ventura maintaining his predictable ways until the very end. Well, perhaps he learned not to walk the bases loaded with Jennings out there and a leadoff hitter on 3rd.

Strange to see that boxscore with 1s and 0s for Ks and then Anderson's five. White Sox springing more holes tonight in their quest for mediocrity next year.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 10, 2016 -> 10:33 PM) Jennings is officially out of my doghouse. I commend you, Mr. Jennings. Sorry for blasting you in the past. You sir, earned my applause and admiration tonight. He's done that a handful of times this season. No reason he can't be better than Duke overall.

Sounds about right.

Gee is a long man, spot starter... Houston with the gift rainout after trailing at Minnesota 5-0 early. They still need a ton of help, though. Tigers could tie Boston, if they don't blow two leads again (sounds familiar).

Robertson/catchers/Cooper way too predictable this year. Double the walk rate obviously hasn't helped...and his stuff just isn't nearly as crisp as earlier in the season. Overuse? Hahn should have foreseen that...obviously it claimed Albers as well. Rodon not pitching deep into games hasn't helped much either, Erik Johnson, Ranaudo, Shields, Turner, lack of offdays early, etc.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Aug 10, 2016 -> 08:45 PM) It isn't necessarily the performance this year. Now that they are out of it, they can use the time to break in these players to the MLB. That way if they are in the race and need help you don't have a star struck kid that wets his pants for a few games and costs the team wins when they count. When you developing young players, it isn't always about the immediate performance. It's more about the long term progression of the player. Sure...if they're actually ready to be promoted. Anderson is still hanging in there, but Fulmer has looked completely lost.

Bumped...another "double blown save" game. And someone's going to trade for him this offseason, and give up prospects to boot?

24 walks already this year for Robertson versus 13 for all of 2015...yikes.

Two big plays by Anderson in the last few innings to erase part of a terrible game up to that point...

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 10, 2016 -> 09:18 PM) Sit him tomorrow against Duffy. Hope he winds up over .225 by season's end. Anderson's a pretty good fastball hitter. He's only sat twice since coming up about two months ago.

QUOTE (Wanne @ Aug 10, 2016 -> 09:13 PM) run support blows more... For Q, that's 100% true since the beginning of 2012. And it's not even close. For that reason alone, he's probably the pitcher who gets dealt in the offseason.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 10, 2016 -> 09:02 PM) At home, where he has been all season So who is supposedly in charge of baserunning this year?

Where's our Katie Ladecky?

Where is Vince Coleman exactly?

Can it get worse with Burdi in September? Guess we'll find out.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Aug 10, 2016 -> 08:53 PM) Well he does, doesn't he? Have you seen White Sox baseball this past decade? Come to a different conclusion on the guy and let us know how you got to it. Be very interesting to see what you have to say on his record. If the Cubs actually win the World Series, that 2005 card will get harder and harder to play. It's not like anyone is going to games anymore because of something that happened 11 years ago.

22 blown saves. All alone in first now. Can't close out any games against KC it seems. What new? Might as well finish in the bottom ten so we can argue all offseason about Hahn protecting the pick when we're supposedly in win now mode again. We can't even deal Morneau because it will be blocked.