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QUOTE (JoshPR @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 03:30 PM) I meant here on the board. But yeah rongey might blame the ground Not, because that would implicitly mean he's taking a shot at the turf god Roger Bossard.

QUOTE (Noonskadoodle @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 03:30 PM) Dont you have the Dodgers to go watch? At least they're exciting/interesting/compelling. Ed Farmer was coughing so much he had to leave so DJ's doing the whole game by himself, lol.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 03:29 PM) His last name starts with an R and ends with "ongey". I think I'm going to call into the post-game and try to get Rongey to go ballistic and get fired.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 03:28 PM) They did rule it earned. Im not sure that makes sense given the error. Not giving up a run regardless, unearned or earned. Still scored upon, so the streak is OVAH.

12 errors....on the way to Jose Valentin territory, yay!

Goodbye, Alexei. It was nice to know you. Just drop a nuclear bomb at 35th and Shields. But please make sure that Chris Sales' not there. None of those runs were earned. The scorekeeper changed the ruling on the Lough bunt. TYPICAL.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 02:41 PM) There is no heir apparent. We'll likely be dumping three other relievers. He is cheap and will remain so for quite a while. He does not appear to be a player that is overperforming (unlike Santos, whose peripherals were terrible). So...no. I'd have to get an absolutely stupid return for him to trade him. I would not be shopping him. And yet Santos had two plus pitches. I would argue that Reed's fastball is just average or below average for a reliever. And his slider's still too spotty to become an elite closer.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 02:11 PM) I can't answer it any other way, so if it's bulls***ty, sorry... If teams asked about Reed and the deal made sense, hell yes, I'd trade him. Sox could use Jones as closer. Simon Castro could be an option for this team not winning this year. And Daniel Webb may be an option at closer at some point. So the short answer is yes. Is that a joke or serious?

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 02:30 PM) It was a joke, moron. Ummmm....okay. Why don't you start using a different color, like teal or green...that would be helpful.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 02:29 PM) Last year, 15 teams got fewer than 25 stolen bases from their leadoff slot. I'm not talking about perception, not the actuality. Like power forwards should rebound (the anti Bosh) and point guards should be creative passers. Doesn't mean it's going to happen, but that's part of the reason we've spent so much time and energy and resources drafting players like Mitchell, Walker and now Tim Anderson. Because KW/Hahn have always desired that prototypical guy, ever since Pods became an ineffective basestealer and they also tried to force Pierre into the role when he was no longer effective in that role. Finally, some of those teams without a lot of steals from leadoff....I'm going to bet they came from teams where they had strong 3-6 hitters i the order and they didn't want to sacrifice outs on the basepaths. Whereas this Sox team has to be more creative in finding ways to score.

Just gave them a free double or single. That's why Jones can't ever be the closer. Walks. And too many of them.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 02:22 PM) Is De Aza expected to steal bags? Is anybody on this team expected to steal bags? I don't think so. The leadoff hitter typically is expected to be capable of stealing 30 bases, yeah. Unless he's on the Oakland A's.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 01:26 PM) Blue Jays are going to win 11 in a row. That's one way of getting back into it. Maybe the Sox should try that. Or maybe a 26-5 like a few years ago. STOP. It's just not going to happen with this year's team. Not until we're 20 GB.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 02:15 PM) Maybe Alexei should lead off. Better OBP and more stolen bases But Alexei's not going to steal bags at will. He does it sneakily, but he's not a pure basestealer. He'd probably have a lower percentage than DeAza if he was EXPECTED to steal bases from that spot in the line-up. Down goes Konerko. 3 K's in the inning. More bad baserunning.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 02:15 PM) Sox find more ways to suck. Pitchout. You're out. DJ and Farmer seem to think DeAza was going entirely on his own...not putting that on Ventura.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 02:12 PM) That's just not going to happen. If he keeps pitching like this another 2 or 3 starts, they're going to pull him from the rotation. If he's lucky, they'll wait until Peavy comes back. It's not like the Royals are an offensive powerhouse. You keep forgetting, this is the same organization that basically gave up on Lucas Harrell, and Harrell has more talent/ability than Axelrod, at least in the eyes of the scouts. Maybe not his heart, but heart and moxie only can get you so far.

DeAza, the tribal council has spoken. Please pack your bags and prepare to leave the island. You've got 2 minutes to say your goodbyes.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 01:48 PM) If Reed for Garcia straight up was on the table right now & Hahn didn't pull the trigger then I believe he should be fired immediately. Castellanos, yes. Garcia, it's not quite so clear cut. There's no guarantee that Garcia will develop power going forward. He SHOULD. He has the physique, but, then again, that's what we projected about Ryan Sweeney.

Why not? (The caveat here is that they have to have a better plan than making Nathan Jones the closer going into 2014).

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 02:06 PM) They have an extra roster spot on Friday. Even though they don't need a 6th starter, maybe they give Johnson a look against the Indians. It might be too early. OTOH, there aren't a lot of other possible candidates...unless they went with someone like Castro or Rienzo first. Why does it seem like all White Sox games go 3 1/2 or 4 hours these days? DJ said their (Royals) supplemental first round draft pick's going to go ahead and have that hip surgery. Pretty ballsy to draft someone so high you know's going under the knife.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 02:02 PM) So this means Axelrod doesn't have trade value? Haha, can't believe they thought he was better fitted to be a starter than Santiago The way this season has gone, they trade Dunn and he goes on to be the MVP for someone in the NL the next 18 months. Oh, well.

QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 01:39 PM) not a bad debut. dealing with nerves, travel, new environment. He's our most ready prospect -- gives us another starting option for next season. With Sale, Santiago, Quintana, Axelrod, Danks and Johnson, we can deal Peavy (if he gets healthy) and try to get a piece to help for the future. You're on the clock, Mr. Hahn. You might want to think about crossing Axelrod off that list soon.

Moustakas 3/50 with RISP this season. Well, the inevitable bloom is coming off the Axelrod "rose." Took a lot longer than expected. Well, someone said it earlier....anyone predicting more homers from DeAza than Paulie AND Viciedo would have been laughed off the board.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 23, 2013 -> 11:30 AM) Infante can't play 2B forever. Sanchez is still a decent prospect. I think he'll be a good player in a couple years. If that's not enough, would you give up Trayce Thompson instead? NO NO NO. Sanchez MIGHT be more like another version of Escobar, but no way should we give them Thompson when he's looking like the most likeliest to be a starter for us in the next 2 years as far as outfielders go. It would be like when Michael Morse was the throw-in with the Reed/Olivo trade...Thompson, if he figures it out, maybe it won't happen until 4-5 years from now, but he could be an extremely valuable player and we can't just trade him like that when he has a lot more valuable to our future Sox projected teams than he does to any contenders in the present.

But the bigger point remains.... Unless we are willing to trade Reed, Ramirez, Peavy or Rios, we're very unlikely to get a PROJECTED major league average (or better, potentially) bat back in trade. There's just no argument there. Crain will probably get us a guy in High A or two low A prospects, but nobody ready to contribute in 2014 (I'll believe it when I see the Cardinals trading us Adams or their CF prospect, Taveras or Taveres or whatever his name is). Which leaves the scraps left over in the FA market, because we're not going to be outbidding many teams this offseason, simply because it wouldn't make any sense to try to spend our way into contention and then pare back payroll when the fans won't or don't support it. (Which is how we ended up dumping Teahen/Jackson for nothing).