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QUOTE (SCCWS @ Apr 10, 2015 -> 08:22 PM) Your research leaves out some very important pieces of data. How many teams that started 0-4 without pitching their ace failed to make the playoffs. Also, of the teams that started 0-4, what was the home/away makeup of those games. For example, an 0-4 team at home vs an 0-4 team away. A sampling of 4 games is too small to make any conclusion. For example in 2011 when Tampa Bay started 0-6, they also started that season with their best player, Longoria on the 15 day DL. We can parse that statistics all we want, but the last 118 playoff teams going back all the way to 2001 is a pretty big swath. If you looked at teams in the 50s, 60s or 70s, that would be invalidated by the fact there were fewer teams...on the other hand, fewer playoff spots (like 1967) so perhaps a statistician could correct for all these issues better than i.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 10, 2015 -> 04:45 AM) Ozzie quit mid season Lets just say he and Cora fired themselves to head for perceived greener pastures in Miami.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 10, 2015 -> 06:24 PM) 2012 the were in cmtention until the last week. They weren't supposed to be good. The last 2 years, blaming him is silly. If you have bad players, you lose games. Cox, LaRussa, and Torree all went to the HOF last year. They all have had bad years because of bad players. See what happens this year with Robin. Basing it on 4 games is like judging a prospect after 10 AB. People are freaking out, but when teams don't hit, they look bad, and they have only scored more than 1 once. They will come around. Payroll in 2012? Its a little bit of selective revisionism to say there was no talent and that he almost singlehandedly led the Bad News Bears to the postseason miraculously. Those managers all reached the playoffs multiple times and won their share of World Series titles, except Cox, who got Atl to playoffs...what, for 13-14 consecutive seasons?

No not a Sixto Rodriguez album. Building on a NESN article, I researched the last four years....so we have a complete picture of all MLB playoff teams since 2001. Only 3 of 118 teams have made the playoffs following an 0-4 start. 2011 Tampa Bay Rays...0-6/1-8 2011 Milwaukee Brewers...0-4/3-4 2012 Atlanta Braves...0-4/5-4 The 2003 Braves started 1-3/1-4, the 2007 Phillies 0-3/1-6, 2014 Orioles 1-3/1-4, 2012 SF Giants 1-3/1-4 and 2013 Pirates 1-3/1-5. Seven teams from 2011-2014 started 1-3 and still made the postseason. Historically speaking, now, the odds would suggest our chances are less than 3%. Exactly 2.54% to be more precise.

How bad would things have to get this year, though? Flavums' 9-18 through the first 27? 10 gb before the end of April?

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 10, 2015 -> 05:08 PM) Here comes the Pearl Harbor threads It will be the biggest test of Ventura's managerial career since late 2012. Who knows if he's up to it or not? This does provide the media with even more opportunities to bring up "Rodon to the Rescue" scenario. There's that. And Lets not forget The Twinkies were late coming to Chicago after that big rain delay yesterday in Detroit.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 10, 2015 -> 05:04 PM) Cooper did a helluva job with the pitching staff. And firing him will result in the 1983 White Sox pitching staff (or even 2005) returning?...can him right now! Put Gordon Beckham in the White Sox Hall of Fame while we're at it.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Apr 10, 2015 -> 05:02 PM) Nice block by Flowers.=D Flowers has been atrocious so far defensively. What happened?

How bad are the boobirds about right now? Samardzija and Sale need to stop the bleeding or there will really be blood in the water. Hard to imagine a more horrific start.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/12648769...my-john-surgery Another one ptac will enjoy on TJ. Might want to think twice about Aiken and Matuella.

Thanks, Euclid.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 10, 2015 -> 01:13 PM) While I don't think Bonifacio is as good as some make it out to be, coming to conclusions right before the 4th game of the season is beyond ridiculous. s*** happens. Bonifacio will get his time. Not a conclusion. Just believe, given the roster composition, that the money could have been spent much more effectively. Remember we also had the Keppinger outlay of money for the very same role.

As far as the Twins go, Dozier/Plouffe/Mauer/Vargas/Arcia and Santana have some pop. When they can dump Schaefer and put Buxton and Sano out there together...it will be close to a very dangerous lineup. Aaron Hicks has been an enigma, too. In the future, Buxton will play CF, Santana SS, Escobar superutility and maybe Plouffe in the OF to make room for Sano. Its a lineup of players with quite a bit of versatility, too.

Hahn really needed Sanchez, Beckham, Bonifacio, Saladino and Leury? Seems he was too quick to sign Bonifacio, and for too much money. Could have been used to shore up that bullpen, for example. Maybe he will make more sense with an outfield injury (Eaton specifically), but its a bit of a head scratcher.

Interesting to see Johnson over Sanchez vs. LHP.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 9, 2015 -> 05:37 PM) Lamont was fired in season I believe Yep, 11-20 in 1995. I should have known better. The Pirates quickly hired him (lifelong friends with Jim Leyland) and he spent a lot of that season in Augusta where I was working...as a consultant/advisor (and assessing Jose Guillen's maturity levels). One of the coolest things I did that year was getting a framed 1993 Chicago Tribune cover page after clinching the pennant autographed by Lamont...the one with Bo Jackson, if I remember correctly. His particular favorite at our stadium was the playing of YMCA, although by that summer I was thoroughly sick of that song being overplayed as much as the Macarena and "Centerfield" (John Fogerty)...and I can even say that I'm one of the few to go out with two MLB managers (now with Jeff Bannister getting the Rangers' job) and survive Hooters' wings over 50 times in one summer.

QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Apr 9, 2015 -> 05:25 PM) FIRE ROBIN TOO SOON? When's the last time we fired a manager in the middle of a season? LaRussa? That was after a 26-38 start. The nuclear meltdown start: here's always the 14-29 of 2001 (without Frank Thomas and with David Wells getting injured early) following up the success of 2000....but that team at least fought to get back up over .500 by July.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Apr 9, 2015 -> 03:32 PM) That website is trying to murder my computer. So the odds are 0.0375 percent. Lovely.

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Apr 9, 2015 -> 03:49 PM) Twins haven't scored a run yet this year. They do have 1 today, lol.

Milone tmrw SHOULD be a winnable match-up. Minnesota's going to get into Chicago fairly late tonight because their game in DET was delayed by 3-4 hours. And they've looked even worse against the Tigers, getting swept.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Apr 9, 2015 -> 02:24 PM) What is the deal with Eaton Pressure from the new contract. Who knows...he's streaky.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Apr 9, 2015 -> 02:22 PM) I know I'm in the minority, but I'm encouraged by what I've seen so far from the Sox, even with a possible 0-3 start. Micah's holding his own. Flowers hit a big homer...there's that (considering how badly he looked for most of spring training). Johnson should have two hits today, actually. LaRoche lost a homer that would have been huge for him.

5 walks and 11 K's...incredible pitch count for that stage in the game. Homers for CLE from Jose Ramirez and some catcher I've never even heard of backing up Gomes.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Apr 9, 2015 -> 02:15 PM) That issue, as we all know, being beards. I think it's because the White Sox didn't join that cancer challenge thing with Maddon and shave their heads like most of the Cubbies. What next? The World Cup hairstyles will come into vogue around MLB? Let's hope not. There are already enough babies here in China sporting that look. Although, in all honesty, Johnny Damon looking like Captain Caveman will stay indelibly imprinted on the minds of baseball fans forever. Beards forever! (Except on the Yankees).

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 9, 2015 -> 02:15 PM) I think they would be ahead if I was playing in his place. With KC's pitching coach, I'm 98% sure you would be throwing 98-101 MPH forkballs with a 16.8 K/9 IP ratio.