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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 28, 2014 -> 08:13 AM) I just read this tl;dr post and have no idea how you pulled this out of your hat to argue that the Sox would be 2 games over .500 with Reed as the closer. This post is like someone using the argument that "over easy eggs have a runny yolk" when asking why a medium rare steak is the perfect temperature. Obviously, I'm not talking about Reed...simply the fact that someone said it was ridiculous that the White Sox could compete with the Tigers this season...and asked for the case to be made. I'd have to find the original post that brought up the Tigers and copy what started it all, but I'm too lazy to "prove" anything at the moment. Also, obviously, my argument has nothing to do with Addison Reed, as you can see where I highlighted exactly what it was that I was responding to.

Fine, if someone wants to send a boat to Mexico for Despaigne or one to Japan for Frederich Cepeda, we can give them more credit than Marco Paddy, haha.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 28, 2014 -> 08:11 AM) Bucket, who has been pretty plugged in over the years, is telling you that Paddy was instrumental in signing Abreu. Why don't you believe that? Paddy also was believed to be the driving force in signing Micker Adolfo. Paddy wasn't in the organization for Zach Stewart I didn't think and where did Jeff Marquez come from related to this topic? Marquez came from the Yanks for Swisher. In the end, he went to the highest bidder, did he not? I can just as easily credit Alexei and Dayan Viciedo for using their influence (which they used). Adolfo's a million miles away from Chicago. We need 3-5 of them every international signing period for those efforts to bear fruition. As far as Marquez and Walker, I was just listing players who we were hyped into believing in by the press/Sox p.r.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 28, 2014 -> 08:07 AM) So shedding $26 million in salary and signing a 27 year old power hitting 1B to a 6 year contract at a lesser AAV is...? The problem is there's no Tanaka the next off-season. Most of the available pitching moves are "win now" mode, especially if we select Kolek or Aiken. The Cubs are learning the same lesson...just because they'll have money to spend doesn't mean they can find the right player to spend it on.

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ May 27, 2014 -> 08:24 PM) Some dude named Abreu I give Hahn a lot more credit for pulling the trigger than Paddy. Anyone could see Abreu's talent. It's finding undervalued guys like Alexei Ramirez and Tadahito Iguchi that's MUCH more difficult. Plus, I'm still not over Nestor Molina and disappointed that we put any faith in him, Zach Stewart or Jeff Marquez ever amounting to anything. Keenyn Walker, too. We only know that name because he was the first player drafted that particular year.

QUOTE (Benchwarmerjim @ May 28, 2014 -> 05:14 AM) After 1565 MLB plate appearances, Ben Revere hit a HR. Over the fence and everything! Please hurry up and sign Jeff Keppinger. That will make the rest of our match-ups with the Twins more interesting. Sorry to see Morneau having such a great comeback season with the Rockies. That must sting a bit, but who could have predicted it after how poorly he played for the Pirates down the stretch?

Except that's not exactly the whole story. It's not like we traded Alex Rios in order to sign Jose Abreu. We needed to get younger and more cost-controlled. It's like saying we traded Rios to bring back Lindstrom and pay for Downs, Paulino and Keppinger. You can twist it around any way you would like, right? Now if we spent $150-175 on Tanaka, then you could have me convinced that trading Rios was absolutely imperative to make it work. We also shed Santos, Peavy's deal, AJ's deal, Konerko's deal, let Buehrle go, Crain and Floyd, etc.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 28, 2014 -> 07:12 AM) Then make it. --- You can't because it's an absolutely ridiculous argument. He did nothing to me other than pitch like a middle reliever. I like/liked Reed. I honestly think, given his repertoire, he'd be better served in the rotation instead of the bullpen. The Sox bullpen has not been horrendous - have you watched games or seen the numbers the bullpen has put up, or are you still basing this off the first two weeks of the year? Greg, I'm pretty sure that if Adam Dunn puts up .275/.400/.500 next year for Texas or Houston or someone, you'd say that you gave him a B for his time with the Sox and whoever is currently playing for the White Sox would get a D. With only two pitches? By that argument, Petricka should be re-converted into a starter again. Or Webb.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ May 27, 2014 -> 05:07 PM) The return for Alex Rios is wearing #79. 859 vs. 908 OPS The problem is that the return from Avisail Garcia and DeAza is not producing much of anything at the moment, so it's a net wash (this season).

QUOTE (fathom @ May 27, 2014 -> 11:53 PM) 2 outs with their best hitter up. I'd give that honor to Brantley, overall, for his entire season of work.

Thought that Bourn play on Konerko was definitely going to come back and bite them. Great outing this time by Belisario. Luckily, he didn't have to face Brantley. Also, amazing job by Petricka.

Who is Harrelson more upset with these days, Downs or DeAza? He wasn't exactly happy with Carroll, either, but at least he survived for 3 innings without giving up a run.

Does Ventura realize Chisenhall is now 7 for 13 against lefties this year? SHEESH. For the last 7 years, Downs has averaged around a 2.3 ERA....but he's gasoline on a fire this season. Bad throw by Adam Eaton. Bad signing by Hahn.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ May 27, 2014 -> 09:59 PM) If Chris Sale wants to go 5-0 he needs runs in this half-inning Sale can't get the win regardless. It's the official scorer's discretion.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 27, 2014 -> 09:53 PM) 33 hits allowed in last 15.1 innings It's quite sad there's not a better option. Obviously, they're not convinced Hanson is ready or will ever be ready again. One bullet dodged. Can we pull off the magic act for 2 more innings?

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ May 27, 2014 -> 09:16 PM) Confederate Prisoner of War Camp in Georgia, haha

At least Chris Sale has only thrown 40 pitches today, so it's essentially a side/bullpen session.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 27, 2014 -> 05:56 PM) It wasn't a gamble, he was the team's 4th starter. Johnson was, then Paulino. Not that it matters now.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 27, 2014 -> 07:51 PM) so what, how long until they decide to just can Sale? 30 min? an hour? With his current situation, I think anything over 40-45 minutes. Obviously, he's going to TRY TO talk his way into going out there again...but with all the pitching injuries around baseball, in what started as a throwaway season, they'd be crazy to push him. What's the temperature now?

Never should have started this one. At least it will bail Ramirez and Viciedo out a bit. Unfortunately, they'll probably slog through 5 or 6 and Carroll will get bombed.

Then, theoretically, they could use a magnetic levitation train...but that would require U.S. train technology to jump 20-30 years into the future.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ May 27, 2014 -> 01:11 PM) Do you really believe any of this, caulfield? I'm perfectly willing to revisit this in August. Maybe the errors don't mean anything and the White Sox are 100% committed to making Anderson the starting SS after Ramirez, and aren't 100% believers in Semien's ability there. To make ANY kind of determination, I'd have to go back and watch video on all those 20+ errors to see what's going on. For that to happen, though, he's going to have to be 750+ OPS bat in the minors, at a minimum.

Marco Paddy. Still waiting to see some more concrete signs of his contributions.

QUOTE (scs787 @ May 27, 2014 -> 11:07 AM) Using ERA to appeal to the back of the baseball card guys, and FIP to appeal to the saber guys.....(I know neither are the end all measuring stick but you get the point). Addison Reed-4.18 ERA/4.62 FIP Daniel Webb- 2.39/4.19 Jake Petricka- 1.57/4.06 Zach Putnam- 1.64/3.14 Then there's Lindstrom who sabermetrically is only slightly worse than Reed @ 3.32/4.68. Saying Reed would be the 4th or 5th best reliever is not that crazy to say. You would have been better off comparing Addison Reed to the rest of MLB closers. Comparing his numbers to White Sox middle relievers...you might as well compare Reed to Belisario's numbers this week as a closer, right? FWIW, we can legitimately make the argument the Sox would be .500 or 2 games over with Reed, but they're not truly contending unless the wheels completely fall off the DET pitching staff.