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At least Ramirez didn't throw that one into the stands or down the RF line....and put the go-ahead run into scoring position.

I blame this all on Dick Allen, lol. Well, it is perfectly fitting for how this season has gone.

Well, at least Viciedo had the correct approach with that swing... In case anyone still cares, the Tigers are leading the Royals now 3-2 in the 8th in KC. Well, High Mileage might.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 11, 2013 -> 08:35 PM) If Beckham blew that DP, does Hawk just leave the booth? I've heard rumors Harrelson will be his agent/PR person for the off-season arbitration case, lol. If they do win this game, it will be the dictionary definition of "winnin' ugly." They could only be beating 3-4-5 teams in MLB with this type of game. Yeah, Stone Pony, it should be 8 or 9 to 0-1-2 for the Jays. But it's NOT.

That pitch against Adam Lind would have been a K. Arencibia swinging at ball 4. Haha...Harrelson can't seem to believe it. Definitely suspecting to give up the lead and probably more, from the tone of his voice.

Okay, 9 easily identifiable mistakes. LOL.

I give up counting mistakes. What's the point? Nothing will ever change with this team, this season.

0 for 9 with 8 k's before that single. You CAN'T serve up a room service fastball there, you just can't. UGHHHHHHHHHH.

Tigers threatening in the 8th, Hawkeroo.

Of course, the problem is how "soft" that 98 or 99 MPH fastball is...and how hittable, at times.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 11, 2013 -> 08:17 PM) ADA stays really hot. Also, T-Flow is approaching that .230 mark that many of us said we'd tolerate at the outset of the season. I'm guessing the threshold is a bit higher now that his defense has been disappointing. He did block two pitches nicely that might have gotten away in key situations, after the passed ball earlier.

DeAza has been on fire at the plate at least...

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 11, 2013 -> 08:12 PM) Seriously? Probably just getting in work between starts. I can't believe they'd have him warm up to face just one lefty hitter....unless they skipped his side session intentionally, or Thornton was unable to go today for some reason.

Great job by Nate Jones. If he could pitch like that every time out (and granted, he would have walked Bautista), he would have the look of the classic closer with those 2 pitches. Unfortunately, the control is never consistent enough. He's very streaky/erratic.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 11, 2013 -> 08:08 PM) The offense has been better the last week or so. The problem now is every error is magnified on this board. Ther have been too many of them, but it has been better lately, except tonight has been tough. I will say Alexei getting doubled off would have happened to just about everyone because even if you know the SS is playing right behind 2nd, when you see a liner up the middle your first instinct is going to be toward 3rd, and one step that way and you are dead. Which creates the question, would you really go out and add players and trade the likes of Erik Johnson at the deadline in order to go after the Tigers or one of the 2 wild card spots? Your heart might say go for it, but it's hard for the brain and rational side to agree.

Bautista helping out Nate. 11 k's in his last 6 1/3.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 11, 2013 -> 07:59 PM) And they are winning. They damn near swept the A's, a team your posts leading up to the actual games gave them no chance to win one. I understand you think the Sox suck, and the situation is hopeless. You post it 500 times a day. If it is so horrible, why do you continue to subject yourself to it? But they did go 2-4 or 2-5 against the A's, yes? But to answer your last question, that is the fate of White Sox fans, lol. If 2005 never happened, we would still be here, hoping they would turn it around, but probably even more skeptical...

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 11, 2013 -> 07:59 PM) And they are winning. They damn near swept the A's, a team your posts leading up to the actual games gave them no chance to win one. I understand you think the Sox suck, and the situation is hopeless. You post it 500 times a day. If it is so horrible, why do you continue to subject yourself to it? I'll ask again, have you seen every single mistake they've made tonight? Our offense and our fundamentals are hopeless. Sometimes, I think the coaching staff is hopeless. We still have the pitching. Just like the Royals, who actually lead the AL in ERA, a lot of good that's done them...since their best hitting prospect is playing in AAA for the Rays.

Mistake #8 tonight, only the 3rd error for Conor. And Dick Allen just jinxed the win, lol, by arguing that we were still winning. But we certainly don't deserve to be winning. The baseball gods always have a way of smiting teams that play like this. When we played the Twins and made just 25% of the mistakes we're making, they ALWAYS took advantage, even though most of those Sox teams were more talented (compared to this Sox team, and vis a vis the Twins).

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 11, 2013 -> 07:53 PM) Nevermind the Sox have won 3 in a row and are winning this one. The Blue Jays are TERRIBLE, except for Encarnacion and Bautista. Wang is TERRIBLE. There's no reason we would be winning this game if we weren't playing one of the worst teams in baseball. It's not a team that's going to be able to compete with the Tigers, not without Konerko and Peavy. Have you watched the entire game? Have you seen each of the 7 mistakes they've made? It's BAD.

Harrelson's plan...not sure how that one would work with the Player's Association and service time, but it's an IDEA at least, which is better than NOTHING.

This organization needs a complete reboot. Has simply gotten stale (veterans like Ramirez, Keppinger and DeAza) and old, in the case of Konerko. It's like they've completely forgotten how to play in the past 9 1/2 months. Just watching the Dodgers with the injection of excitement coming from Puig...there needs to be SOMETHING to wake this team up from its stupor.

Mistake #7 this game. 4 on the Cubans, combined. SHEESH. We really don't deserve to win this game. It's almost (and I said ALMOST) to the point where they need to learn that you can't give up 7 outs combined offensively/defensively...and still win. Not rooting for a loss, but pretty much disgusted with our complete lack of accountability.

Quintana can't survive throwing 20+ pitches per inning. It exposes our bullpen every time when they have to go 4 full innings. Technically, he has a 3.60 ERA for this game. Not getting much help behind him, except for Gordon and Gillaspie making very good plays.

We'll call that mistake #6, because Dayan makes that play 85-90% of the time. Quintana's best pitch so far tonight for outs has been the change-up. You can make a credible argument we've given them all 4 runs this game, because Encarnacion never should have been up at the plate in the first place if Dayan doesn't airmail the throw to second.