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QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 02:17 PM) Greg, go to Oklahoma Joe's. Post us a pic of the tips sandwich. Life is good. Oklahoma Joe's is getting TOO popular now. We didn't have to wait in such long lines about a decade ago...and for my money, go for the pulled pork sandwich. They always give you so many french fries that it will clog your arteries for about a month. At any rate, you also have Arthur Bryant's, KC Masterpiece (I think, on the Country Club Plaza, maybe it's just the sauce now being sold in grocery stores), Gates, etc. My ex used to work at Fiorella's Jack Stack BBQ in the Freighthouse and that place does a very good business as well.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 02:15 PM) Egypt and Iran have both released statements criticizing the violent repression taking place in the U.S. over the past couple days that are similar to statements the U.S. releases about them. I forgot the part about more than half the babies are born out of wedlock or to single mothers, and roughly 25% of the population (African-American and Hispanic-American) has about the same chance of graduating from university as ending up in prison. Meanwhile, countries like UAE, Bahrain and Qatar are making tremendous economic progress while American students slowly fall backwards to the rest of the developing world in the areas of math, science, physics and chemistry. American government can be summed up in one sentence: Citizens United with Koch Brothers leads to 14% approval rating for Congress and more time spent trying to undo Obamacare than solve any real problems in America.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 02:12 PM) Although none of the players that KW gave up for these guys have amounted to anything. The biggest problem has clearly been the fact that the Dunn and Danks deals blew up, so it's pretty much been the excuse for the last four years or so for not doing anything. That said, they did go out on a limb with Jose Abreu. If we could apply our track record with Cubans (2 out of 3 or 67%) to everything else we do with the June draft and FA/international signings, this team would be sitting pretty right now.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 02:04 PM) Who are these "marginal upgrade" players that caused the mess? Dunn. Keppinger and Downs, to a lesser extent. Swisher. Javy. Edwin Jackson. Manny Ramirez. Liriano, Myers and Youkilis. Griffey, Jr.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 02:03 PM) Yes. Play more golf. That's relaxing, assuming you're a good golfer and not the type to wrap a club around a tree in anger.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 02:01 PM) GMAFB. Those same people in the Middle East are probably watching Al-jazeera news...asking, "Is this really the way they STILL treat non-white people in the US? Didn't they learn anything from Hurricane Katrina?" That America is a REALLY scary place. Everyone has a gun. Every month or so, some random person will go into a school and try to blow it up or kill as many students and teachers as possible. All the kids are fat and addicted to McDonald's and playing computer games.

This question is pretty much irrelevant anyway until Opening Day, 2015. To categorically say "yes" or "no" without seeing the changes in the next 7 months...that's a bit premature. However, it's VERY VERY unlikely all the team's issues can be addressed in just two off-seasons.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 01:36 PM) I posted that a few pages ago, yes that was absolutely ridiculous. Verbally challenging the police doesn't justify beating, spraying, tasering or shooting anyone. Ooops...sorry, guess I missed a page or two somehow. It's reminiscent of that crazy pastor from Florida who was burning Korans to put himself in the news....Jones or something was his name.

Now I'm starting to agree with Greg, lol. Scary. This Sunil Dutta guy was born in Jaipur, India...it's QUITE alarming and a bit scary when immigrants to this country start believing this is the attitude a police officer should take towards other immigrants and minorities. Dr. Sunil Dutta was born and raised in Jaipur, India. He works for the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD). He is an author, adjunct professor, practitioner of Dhrupad, and a scholar of music and poetry.[1] He is the president of the North American Dhrupad Association.[2] Dr. Dutta was a scientist before he decided to join the police. He is a scholar of Urdu mystical poetry and an Indian classical music form called Dhrupad. Dutta was born and raised in Jaipur, India. He obtained his BS from Haryana Agricultural University, Hisar, India.[3] He came to the US for his graduate studies, obtaining his MS from the University of Florida, Gainesville and his PhD from the University of California, Davis. He received his Masters degree in Security Studies from Naval Postgraduate School/Center for Homeland Defense and Security.[4] Sunil Dutta was born and raised in a refugee family in India. His clan was a victim of religious holocaust in Punjab that accompanied the partition of British India in 1947. Many of his family members were killed in the violence and were forced to flee from their lands where they had lived for many centuries.[5] Dutta grew up in Jaipur, India. Career[edit] After spending some time working as a researcher and completing his doctorate in biology, he became disillusioned with science and left academia. Dutta was always interested in social issues. After leaving science, he joined the Los Angeles Police Department. Dutta is the founder of a non-profit corporation, the North American Dhrupad Association, which promotes ancient Indian classical music. He is widely recognised as a unique police officer and has received significant media coverage. Besides publishing in magazines and newspapers, he has published a book of poetry translations with Robert Bly.[6] Dutta has published some rare audio recordings of Dhrupad music.[2] Dutta has written numerous articles about terrorism in South Asia,[7] death penalty, revenge, religious fundamentalism, and police reform.[8][9][10][11][12] He has given many poetry recitals with Robert Bly. Dutta teaches music, art of poetry translation and is a criminology instructor. He has taught at-risk students in the inner city of Los Angeles at the high school level. At the graduate level, he has taught biology, ecology, criminal justice, and human trafficking. Currently he teaches terrorism studies at the graduate level.[13] He has organised several music concerts in Los Angeles area and instituted scholarships for music students.

Here we go again, when things were just beginning to settle down... (CNN) -- In a single column, a veteran police officer has catapulted himself into the national debate over the death of unarmed teen Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri. "I'm a cop. If you don't want to get hurt, don't challenge me," the Washington Post headline blares. The piece was written by Sunil Dutta, a 17-year veteran of the Los Angeles Police Department . "Even though it might sound harsh and impolitic, here is the bottom line: if you don't want to get shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground, just do what I tell you," he wrote. Dutta cautions against arguing, insulting, or screaming at officers, "and don't even think of aggressively walking towards me. Most field stops are complete in minutes. How difficult is it to cooperate for that long?" If you believe an officer is violating your rights or bullying you, Dutta says, don't challenge him then -- save that for lodging a complaint later. "Do what the officer tells you to and it will end safely for both of you." It took no time for the anger over his message to explode. "The outrageous thing is not that he says it. The outrageous thing is that we accept it," writes Ken White of the blog Popehat, which tracks American legal issues. "Do we have a justice system? By name, yes. Is it effective in deterring cops from abusing citizens or punishing them when they do? No... If you hope the cop will be charged criminally for misbehavior, you're going to be waiting a very long time for no result." Dutta's message is to "shut up and take it, because even the slightest bit of intransigence is grounds for the cops to unleash a world of hurt," writes Benjamin Freed of the Washingtonian. "To say that putting up a verbal argument warrants bringing out the billy clubs, stun guns, or actual guns only stokes what's been seen coming out of Ferguson in the past week -- images of peaceful demonstrators being met with a lines of officers rigged with military-grade equipment, marchers being fogged with canisters of tear gas, and people being slugged with rubber bullets after not moving quickly enough," Freed complains.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 01:24 PM) James Foley is beheaded by ISIS. This is beyond horrifying. The other journalist there will have the same fate. The inhumanity of this and the other beheadings depresses me beyond no end. I am so freaked out by this and the Ferguson situation and the economy here and globally, not to mention Putin and the North Korean bastard asshole, it makes me think things will never get better in the world, that our world's best days are over. Can anyone get me off the ledge? Don't watch White Sox games where the bullpen has a lead from the 7th inning onwards? Follow the Royals instead?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 01:19 PM) And out of this list, 2 guys have OPS+ numbers of 96 (OPS in the low .700's, below average) a 3rd has an average OPS+ (exactly 100, .740 OPS), and the 4th was traded away for a pitcher. And that's telling you exactly why the Tigers are where they are right now, besides the injuries/non-performance with Verlander, Sanchez's injury, Soria's injury and Nathan's general ineffectiveness and more blown saves already than 2012 and 2013 combined. Of course, Jackson went south offensively, Castellanos is a rookie and Avila's a "decent" bat at catcher but still probably below average overall, despite the terrible lack of depth at that position. Not to mention their defense, although that's been improved over past seasons...especially because of Suarez/Igleias up the middle rather than Peralta. Obviously, moving Cabrera from 3B to 1B helped, too. Of course, trading Austin Jackson and surrounding him on the corners with Davis/Martinez/Hunter hasn't helped matters. That was a huge risk for Dombrowski to take. I forgot to mention Torii Hunter. He was great last year (especially for his age), but he's finally become a defensive black hole at his age and his OPS/WAR numbers are pretty bad (mid 700's, negative WAR due to defense). That said, Victor Martinez has been nearly an MVP candidate, making up partially for the erosion in Cabrera's power.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 01:18 PM) The cops raided a church where people were allegedly sleeping. Church leaders denied it. Another cop shown last night telling people he was gonna f***ing kill them and told the media to f*** off when asked his name. Both sides are at fault in these protests. It's scary to think after a week and a half, these protests still could get really really violent. I think you mean the church denied they were allegedly sheltering looters/troublemakers from outside the community?

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 01:04 PM) Sure, but bolded are right handed hitters. Sadly, the best LH power options for 2015 are Wilkins, Dunn, Rasmus, Alvarez (Pirates growing tired of him), or some switch hitter like Melky. Yes, I was simply highlighting some of the other guys who MIGHT be options. It's not impossible to do. The Tigers came up with both Rajai Davis (2 years, $9 million, basically the same as DeAza/Keppinger/Lindstrom) and JD Martinez (waiver wire), but neither of those players are true impact guys. They've been better than expected, but you have to add them to a solid/decent core of hitters (Martinez, Cabrera, Kinsler, Castellanos, Austin Jackson, Avila, etc.)

“No baseball player will have a normal MRI,” Dines said. “If someone has a congenitally small ulnar collateral ligament, even if they tear it and you reconstruct it, you can always make it bigger. And it’s almost a foregone conclusion these days that a young pitcher who throws in the upper 90s will at some point have a reconstruction anyway. “When I read the reports about Aiken, I thought that there might be some concern about the bony anatomy where the ligament attaches, perhaps the medial epicondyle. If that is damaged or abnormal, you’re left with less bone there to reconstruct the ligament, and that can mean that a reconstruction won’t always work. They must have thought, for some reason, that a future reconstruction would not take.” PTAC? from si.com story on Aiken

“No baseball player will have a normal MRI,” Dines said. “If someone has a congenitally small ulnar collateral ligament, even if they tear it and you reconstruct it, you can always make it bigger. And it’s almost a foregone conclusion these days that a young pitcher who throws in the upper 90s will at some point have a reconstruction anyway. “When I read the reports about Aiken, I thought that there might be some concern about the bony anatomy where the ligament attaches, perhaps the medial epicondyle. If that is damaged or abnormal, you’re left with less bone there to reconstruct the ligament, and that can mean that a reconstruction won’t always work. They must have thought, for some reason, that a future reconstruction would not take.” The Inside Story of How the Houston Astros Lost #1 Pick Brady Aiken http://www.si.com/mlb/2014/07/23/houston-a...en-inside-story One thing that seems clear is that the idea that the Aiken affair has significantly damaged the Astros is overblown, for now anyway. “We’re going to be fine going forward,” Luhnow said. “This is an organization on the rise.” It can be argued that they pushed the rules, but they did not violate them. In fact, it is quite possible that they operated no differently from the way the majority of the league’s teams would have, had they detected a landmine on an MRI. And while the prominence of the pick affected might be unprecedented, the process wasn’t. Just last year, the Marlins selected pitcher Matt Krook 35th overall. Krook failed his physical after he’d agreed to terms and wasn’t signed. Then he tore his UCL after pitching 45 innings for the University of Oregon. With the No. 2 pick next year, the Astros might select a prospect who is even better than Brady Aiken, or perhaps a college player who is even closer to contributing to a team they believe isn’t so far from contending. They haven’t lost much, if anything, by way of value, and winning would go a long way to erase even perceived past transgressions, just as it will their recent history of losing.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 12:13 PM) The point is who is the left handed power in the white sox line up next year. If Dunn is the only option, then I'd much rather have Nelson Cruz. If they bring back Dunn, I'm going to have to agree with Greg775 about that being a pretty tone-deaf move as far as the fan base is concerned. As was mentioned previously, we "only" had Valentin and Durham to go with all those RH power bats 10-15 years ago. Gillaspie could still develop into another version of Valentin, maybe not 20-30 homers, but at least 12-15, maybe 18.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 12:10 PM) I'm pretty sure you can't charge someone with a crime that isn't on the books. Or they could use a Federal civil rights violation charge.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 12:10 PM) I'm pretty sure you can't charge someone with a crime that isn't on the books. The charge would probably be second-degree manslaughter, like the Oscar Grant/Fruitvale Station case.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 12:07 PM) It isn't popular, but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Dunn back on a much cheaper one year deal. What's the point?? I just don't see Dunn WANTING to come back to Chicago, or JR wanting him back. With all this retirement talk, he doesn't even sound like he's happy about finishing this season. It's bad enough we always hear stories Ventura isn't sure about managing long-term, we shouldn't invest another year in a DH who doesn't even feel excited to play anymore. On one hand, we've got Avisail Garcia busting his butt in rehab and hustling on every play, Dunn's pretty much the antithesis of that. What's next? Konerko will want to come back as player/coach in 2015?

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 11:55 AM) I've said this before and I'll say it again- who specifically do you all want when you ask for a lefty bat to replace Dunn? There just aren't many LH power hitters on the market. LaRoche...likely to extend in Washington Lind...aging, good average but where's the power? Rasmus....the next JD Drew bad long-term contract? Melky Cabrera....very good or great for 3 seasons in his career, below average for the other 5...PED's issues, 31 on Opening Day Nick Markakis...O's might want to keep him, but undoubtedly for less than $12 million per season if they make the playoffs...complementary player, good/solid, does everything pretty well but he's always been a 750ish OPS type of guy and he's going to be declining from now on. Victor Martinez...likely to re-up with the Tigers Pablo Sandoval...he's struggled this season, weight issues, don't have the same need for 3B we had going into 2014 Seth Smith...extended with Padres Cuddyer...likely to stay in Colorado, although a possibility Outfielders Norichika Aoki Emilio Bonifacio Melky Cabrera Nelson Cruz Michael Cuddyer Rajai Davis Chris Denorfia Jeff Francoeur Jonny Gomes Franklin Gutierrez Tony Gwynn Jr. Scott Hairston Torii Hunter Raul Ibanez Reed Johnson Ryan Ludwick * Nick Markakis * Darnell McDonald Mike Morse Colby Rasmus Alex Rios * Nate Schierholtz Grady Sizemore Seth Smith Alfonso Soriano Denard Span * Ichiro Suzuki Ryan Sweeney Josh Willingham Chris Young Delmon Young * players with options for 2015

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 11:44 AM) Again, for Noesi this really doesn't express what he's actually done this season. He's on the verge of being a >1 WAR pitcher with the White Sox and a -0.3 WAR pitcher with the Rangers/Mariners this season, and that's as a pitcher who still has room to grow in this league. I wouldn't pay him $13.5 million for that performance and I wouldn't pencil him into my number 2 slot in the rotation, but if Noesi is a 1 WAR pitcher and James Shields or Justin Masterson is a 3 WAR pitcher, then we're talking about paying maybe 5/$100 to a guy who will add ~$10 million in value to the rotation. That's a very different question. Danks, yes, he remains a problem and I'm disappointed we didn't do something to deal with that problem at the trading deadline when maybe you could have gotten a team to pay a premium "win-now" price in terms of how much of that contract they'd pick up. I think those 2-3 terrible starts he had in July really submarined his trade value and forced Hahn's hand in terms of holding onto him. There were too many options out there who were affordable or whose contracts weren't longer-term commitments....guys like McCarthy, Capuano, Correia, Robert Hernandez/Fausto Carmona, Jake Peavy, etc.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 10:13 AM) No one is against spending money in FA in general, but many are against spending it simply for the sake of spending it, because that's how you end up painted in a corner. Hahn's plan is much larger than Chris Sale and Jose Abreu and how both fit into a "contention window" -- it's about building a healthy organization that can enjoy sustained success. Panicking and buying marginal upgrades at market rate simply because they were the best available is precisely how we ended up in this "mess" to begin with. I think that, fortunately, KW's willingness to pay out the nose for upgrades without long-term commitments has afforded us the ability to crawl out of the "rock bottom" phase of the rebuild sooner, but that doesn't mean we should forget the big picture in year two and start acting like Jim Hendry all of a sudden. That's all fine and good, but rebuilding and competing on the go requires more immediate results for the Sox fanbase. Everyone knows this. So while the Cubs were in a position to pass on those free agency markets due to timing issues, and put out some tentative "we will fix things with our pitching staff sometime between 18 to 24 months from now" mantras, that's not going to work for the Sox. Hahn never presented that blueprint of waiting from 2011 until 2017 for a World Series-contending team like Epstein and Hoyer have consistently done. Of course, he wasn't in a position to sell the future when the "shorter term" has always been more important to the White Sox as a means of running a business. Sooner or later, his hand is going to be forced. Remember last season when people were saying the Cubs simply HAVE to sign a starting pitcher. Well, they passed on Tanaka, and have maximized the values of Garza, Feldman, Samardzija and Hammel. They now have a potential ace in Arrieta who needs to be paired with Lester/Scherzer/Shields for their fans to really start to believe...

If they keep Danks in the rotation, then they're just a different version of the Cubs sitting on the Edwin Jackson contract and not bringing Kris Bryant up to the big leagues until June because of his Super-2 status. It's encouraging they would rather Rodon develops at the big league level, but if there's not an accompanying influx of talent (a 25-30 year old mixed with a couple of veterans, probably one a hitter and one for the bullpen), then it's another wait until next year. After Rodon, we have Hawkins, Anderson, Montas and Tyler Danish. Not four Top 20 caliber players. Not Buxton and Sano coming into this year. So it's not like they can say, hey, be patient, wait until 2017 for those guys to arrive, since the Sox fanbase has already lost quite a bit of confidence in the team's ability to produce a (drafted and incubated) solid/decent hitting prospect that's not an international free agent like Alexei or Abreu.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 09:42 AM) I just think he's also really tired. There are also rumors about his foot/ankle bothering him again, and that he's concentrating more on just making contact and driving in runs, but that's just a theory out there in the media to explain that 18 game homerless stretch. If he is in pain, it's certainly now showing up in his defensive play at 1B, which is much improved. By the way, there are only five teams worse now in the major leagues in run differential...this team's not going to compete for anything until 2016, minus historical off-season spending, which would be completely unprecedented in the 30+ years of the JR regime.