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QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Aug 22, 2014 -> 08:24 AM) anybody catch the Hahn interview on the score earlier? anything interesting said? Not really. Usual close to the vest type stuff. He actually said people had already paid for their September tickets, like there was an expectation of seeing Adam Dunn, lol. Of course, it was measured by the usual, we have a responsibility to field a competitive team...games affecting the playoff race/s mumbo jumbo along with opening up at-bats for younger players yadda yadda. Wouldn't commit to Rodon coming up in September. Said it would get at least 3 starts in Charlotte. Said he was more refined/advanced than even they projected when the pick was made, etc.

You can't really compare Danks and Dunn because: 1) Danks came to our team when he was very young and is considered part of the White Sox "family" 2) His brother is also on the team 3) 2008 Blackout Game memories still linger for some 4) The fact that Danks' lack of effectiveness can be blamed on his career-altering injury, vs. laziness or "not caring" or whatever people say about Dunn 5) The fact that expectations were so high that Dunn was the final piece when he was added in 2011, having gone through a season where Jim Thome being on the Twins made a huge difference not making them playoffs despite the 26-5 run in mid-2010. 6) The fact that Dunn's never made the playoffs 7) Dunn's 2011 was chronicle in the NY Times for its historic abysmal nature, whereas Danks criticism is about fastball velocity, location, homers surrendered, leaving balls out over the plate, peripherals....you just can't equate them when you talk about total flops and then take into consideration what we were being sold at the time by KW

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 22, 2014 -> 08:02 AM) I have a very hard time accepting that the only outcome of a man walking towards two police officers armed with a steak knife is that he's shot dead. According to the majority of posters in this thread, that's exactly the case. And, from living in China for four or five years...I can honestly say the police would have handled it quite differently. I've literally seen 25 similar incidents to this where you have crazy/drunk men on the streets acting erratically, sometimes armed with weapons, other times not...and always a large crowd of people circling around them, especially in the case of an argument between two people. Never have I seen the police even pull their guns once. Once, I was on a bus and the driver cut off a motorcyclist because he wasn't paying attention and the motorcycle was in his blind spot. The driver of the motorcycle went ahead of the bus and stopped and blocked the bus. The bus driver, amazingly, got out to engage the motorcyclist in conversation and, meanwhile, the motorcylist had somehow gotten his hands on a crowbar and they were about to get into a huge brawl when the police came along, patiently talked to both of them for about 20-30 minutes until they were laughing...the weird thing was NOBODY even got off the bus, stopped from looking at their newspapers, cell phones or I-pads, it was like it was the most normal thing in the world. Now, if you get the Chinese military, special police/security forces or army involved, they'll shoot first and ask questions later, they're not taught to engage, just to kill their targets. For example, any time a man goes into a school with a knife and threatens teachers or children, he's done.

We saw this "market correction" earlier with the Cubs spending a ton of money on their soft-tossing lefty and Soler after Cespedes and Puig became so successful. Nobody wanted to miss out on the next toolsy/athletic/power-hitting guy, so you saw a lot of money flowing to Soler considering his experience level and longer math to the majors. For example, look at the money the Dodgers gave those two Cuban infielders (one was attacked and bitten by Olivo) who weren't as touted. Then you have another correction coming because of so many teams feeling they missed out on Abreu, Puig, Soler, Alexei Ramirez and Abreu.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Aug 22, 2014 -> 07:39 AM) How close do you think you need to be to use a tazer? 21ft or less? Then look at the video I posted a page or so back. And someone's going to come to a "reasonable" conclusion that the person in question can't be considered "average" in the sense that he was MEANDERING around at best, calling for the cops to shoot him, acting erratically. Of course, the police didn't have the benefit of having monitored his behavior over the five or ten minutes before the shooting...but that also goes to the Brown case as well, that officer hadn't seen the convenience store video, so on one hand we can't use that video to add justification to the officer's actions in that particular situation but then turn around and not at all take into consideration the clearly pscyhologically-unstable nature of the second situation. All the police can do is judge the situation as they first enter the scene. It also seems clear from the video he wasn't an imminent danger (at least he wasn't perceived to be) to the other people around him, or they never would have been standing their taking video, making comments, etc. They just thought he was crazy. But if they really felt threatened by him, they would have quickly bailed.

QUOTE (LDF @ Aug 22, 2014 -> 07:36 AM) am i missing something on this player. for what is being rumored on his signing money, is really all that great? can someone pls explain why so much money???? is he going to be the next Jose A?? Doubtful.

Sin City... Well, two words, Eva Green. It seems like she has stolen or just taken over every movie she has been in recently: 300 (Rise of an Empire), Dark Shadows, she's amazing. Of course, her perfect body on display gratuitously without much or any clothing doesn't hurt her cause too much. Other than that, and Joseph Gordon-Levitt, not sure if it's worth watching in the theatre. If you do go, probably a better choice not to go with 3D as I don't feel it was worth the surcharge. Jessica Alba just cannot convince me that she's an alcoholic, bent on revenge stripper...just doesn't feel natural, and never has (even Natalie Portman in Closer was better at it). Powers Boothe was also excellent. Finally, it's a little jarring to see Dennis Haysbert in any non-insurance salesman related role, lol. Overall, been there and done that feeling...this sequel is about 4-5 years too late.

QUOTE (spiderman @ Aug 22, 2014 -> 06:25 AM) It was time to move on, and they probably messed up by not moving him earlier in the season when he got off to a hot start, now essentially trading him for nothing. I still hope he can have a good finish with the Angels, and get his career on track as he did seem like a good guy (who knows), but, as a White Sox, he was a bust and there are decent prospects right behind them. Even at that point, he wasn't going to get anything like a team's Top 10 prospect, but it could have been a decent Type B prospect or another bullpen arm. Hahn should have known better than to think he was ever going to turn it around with the Sox when we all knew better. Of course, an opposing GM would have had that same thought....we've seen this same story play itself out over and over again at the end of 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014.

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 02:30 PM) Yea, it only looks bad because they are comparing it to the years when they were consistently over 3 million every year no matter what. Sure it’s down a little now but they were drawing over 2.5 million in the early 2000’s as well when they were losing 90+ games a year. Another couple years of missing the playoffs and they’ll be under 2 million. It's hard for someone who didn't live through it to forget how much hype Sosa and the HR binges got in Wrigley...which lasted until Prior and Wood came along to provide some hope that there would be pitching to finally go along with all the offense. For at least five years or so, that was THE reason to go to a Cubs' game.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Aug 22, 2014 -> 04:40 AM) Love to see Sanchez getting a chance. I may be a bit biased as he's probably the best hitter for average out of the three and he's nearly two years younger but I've liked him since I saw him turn a 100 mph fastball for a double in the futures game. Just a pure hitter. Pure hitter? Sanchez? Hmm... Remember, this is the White Sox we're talking about. With all the struggles Alcantara and Baez are having (and those were Top 10 and Top 85-100 guys in all of the minors), with what happened to Semien, with Leury Garcia performing exactly as expected offensively, most of us are going to be Doubting Thomases with our hitting prospects (and I don't want to hear about Alexei and Abreu, because they didn't spend time in our system) until ONE at least shows he perform at average major league level. For those down on Micah Johnson, he's not ready yet. That said, he also wasn't 100% healthy for most of this season, and I'm surely he will be sitting out the AFL as well in an effort to get him back to full health before ST next year. If everything plays out like expected (from the White Sox standpoint), he'll be the starter at 2B at some point next year. That leaves Semien and Sanchez to fight it out for SS, with the loser of that battle taking on Leury Garcia and eventually Saladino for the utility spot. Or there's that option of platooning Semien/Gillaspie at 3B, using Marcus as a PR and replacement all around the infield and in outfield as well.

QUOTE (Señor Ding-Dong @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 09:04 PM) I don't think many, if any, people are sleeping on Semien. In fact, he seems to be the consenus board favorite for 2B of the future. If nothing else, Semien is thought highly of by many. If anything, people are sleeping on Sanchez. People act as if he's some slouch when that's not the case at all. It seems like people's love for Semien is clouding their judgment on Sanchez. I said this in the Beckham trade thread, but I'll repeat it here: We got a good look at Semien earlier in the season, now we're going to see what Sanchez has to offer. Besides, Semien will be up in like a week and a half anyway. Sanchez is young, had a good bounce back season in AAA, and showed by far the most pop of his career. Perhaps there's more power potential there than initially thought; his body is filling out now afterall. We'll know who's better based on who wins the job out of spring training. For now, let's give Sanchez a chance. He certainly deserves it. I'd guess right now it's 60/40 in favor of Micah Johnson, with many thinking of Semien as a platoon partner with Gillaspie, PR and fill-in at 2B, SS and LF.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 05:29 PM) The Angels initially claimed Beckham off waivers, MLB.com’s Alden Gonzalez reports So basically, every team in the AL except for maybe the Athletics (depending when he was actually placed on waivers) passed on him...and he didn't make it to the NL.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 07:11 AM) Looking like 3 out of 4 years in a row where the Pirates will make no major moves at the trade deadline while in the playoff hunt and then collapse when August hits. Justin Morneau last year. It's arguable if that constitutes major or not. He didn't hit that well for them, but this year he's been close to All-Star level.

QUOTE (ron883 @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 05:26 PM) My rankings as far as those 3 infield prospects 1. Semien 2. Sanchez 3. Johnson Sanchez and Semien can both play SS, while Johnson is shoddy at 2b. I think Semien can be an above average player at either 2B or SS, given his on base ability and decent power. The problem is that none of Sanchez's five skills right now are above major league average. Maybe, just maybe fielding, but we'll find out soon enough when we start comparing him turning the DP and see what his range truly is...how well he makes the throw against his body where he has to turn and jump in the air and release the ball all in the same movement to get a speedy runner at 1st.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 03:00 PM) You figure between Semien, Sanchez, Anderson, and Rondon one of them HAS to stick. It feels so weird compared to years past where it'd be like "We've got two or three position prospects that should be MLB caliber. Maybe." It's still that way, though. Semien didn't exactly take the job and run with it. Johnson couldn't stay healthy this year. Anderson's too raw, Sanchez doesn't have one outstanding tool and Rondon's got to put up at least a 700 OPS for 3-4 months in Winston-Salem before I'm ready begin taking him 100% seriously as a full-time future big leaguer. I don't think we can positive we have even one player in that group POTENTIALLY capable of being above average at the major league level other than Anderson.

Mike Caruso. Sammy Sosa. Mike Cameron. Kenny Williams.

I'm going with Cory Snyder or Steve Sax, lol. Jon Rauch would be up there for me, although he wasn't up for long with the Sox before he got himself traded, and he'd already had the labrum injury. Josh Fields and Brian Anderson have to be a part of this conversation, too.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 04:05 PM) Maybe this guy can get another chance: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/o/olmedra01.shtml He played in that game where Alexei was late in 2012 and Ventura benched him and of course he made a key bonehead play that helped to lose the game...that's all I remember about him.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 03:55 PM) Also, I can't see any way this isn't Semien coming up. What will be interesting to see is how the minors shake out. There's only a couple weeks left in the season, do we possibly see Rondon moved up to Charlotte for a 2-3 week spell to continue getting him consistent playing time? Why can't Rondon play in Birmingham or the AFL? You really want to jump him 3 levels in one season when he's just beginning to prove he won't have the bat blown out of his hand by a dominant pitcher? I don't even think it's three weeks left, more like 2 unless your team's in the playoffs/post-season.

QUOTE (Charlie Haeger's Knuckles @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 02:19 PM) Does anyone believe a system that places so much power to a "corporation" that works me 65 hours a week for a meager salary and shoddy "health insurance" while pocketing all the profits I produce for the "corporation" is fair? MLB and its owners are no different than any other Capitalism-empowered moneygrabbing machine. You're forgetting they also have the anti-trust exemption. That said, MLB players have much longer careers (on average) and better pensions than the other major sports. For example, look at all the problems former NFL players have had establishing this whole concussion case, setting up a fund to help those suffering from it, having it recognized as a legitimate problem that needs to be addressed. America once upon a time was a country where someone in your situation would say, "Screw it, I'm not going to work for THE MAN anymore, I'm going to hang up my own shingle and determine my own destiny. If I work hard enough, I just might make it."

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 02:46 PM) I think SOME people ignorantly thought this was another example of a white cop unjustifiably murdering a saintly black kid in cold blood. Turns out that's probably not a true depiction of what happened. But from there I think the story became more about the overreaction of the police and the militarization of the police. The race angle went away pretty quickly. Justification is a matter of interpretation. It's surely going to be a degree of culpability...whether that's 50% or above, is for a jury to determine eventually. Just like the reactions to the other case or even Tony Stewart, two perfectly reasonable people can weigh identical evidence and come up with radically different interpretations and conclusions. And I highly doubt anyone instantly thought the kid was perfect or saintly, any more than they believed the officer was infallible, heroic or incapable of poor decision-making in a stressful/tense situation.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 02:39 PM) You keep bringing up these racial issues though. Clearly you think that played a part. If the media and general population didn't think it was at all a part of the case, we wouldn't have heard about in the first place, there would have been no riots, no National Guard, no 10 day span of national news leading with this story and no Obama/Eric Holder press conferences. Or do you disagree? How many days did the national news, CNN, Fox News, lead their telecasts with stories about all the murders/killings/shootings in Chicago this past year?

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 02:19 PM) Is it not possible that the Ferguson police department has a history of poor race relations yet in this specific case Wilson was justified in shooting Brown? The former being true does not prevent the latter from being true. Of course, ANYTHING is possible. Just like I can't prove that if Officer Ron Johnson was the one to encounter Michael Brown in the middle of that street, that Johnson wouldn't have ended up shooting him. But it's also reasonable to think that in both of these shootings OTHER OUTCOMES COULD HAVE BEEN JUST AS POSSIBLE.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 02:19 PM) So wait, let's go back. You really think this officer shot Brown because he was black? That's the only reason? No, I never said that. Although I'm pretty sure a white officer in Ferguson has never been found guilty of any type of wrongdoing for an incident involving an African-American member in that community.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 02:12 PM) http://lmgtfy.com/?q=black+cop+shoots+white+kid If it was that easy to find, I'm sure all these instances would be out there to support the Wilson/Brown case that it has nothing at all to do with race, it's just a complete coincidence. It's surely a coincidence as well that a black person killing a white person is 12X more likely to receive the death penalty than a white person killing a black person, even if there are multiple victims.