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What is the limit to the number of claims you can make?

QUOTE (knightni @ Aug 24, 2011 -> 06:22 PM) I'm sure that they have. Gavin's just the only one to have been claimed. Well, obviously Danks, Sale and Santos wouldn't make it very far.

QUOTE (sunofgold @ Aug 24, 2011 -> 01:01 PM) Let's get a couple unearned runs and one earned run and win 3-2. We are fading in the division, but the Cheryl Tig's are overdue for a double digit losing streak. heehee! Does anyone else here know who Cheryl Tiegs is, lol? Maybe Christie Brinkley, but that's going WAY back to the late 70's/early 80's. I think she was the first one Sports Illustrated ever showed on the cover with what amounted to a see-through top.

The only logic would be to save money and get back something in return...especially if we knew he would be willing to come back. Of course, if he really does intend to finish his entire career with the White Sox, you probably don't want to sacrifice it for 5 weeks and a post-season appearance, but that would be entirely up to Mark and his family, how he feels about his "Sox legacy." I don't think very many White Sox fans look at Frank Thomas in a lesser light because of the way his career ended with the A's and Blue Jays, do they? I get the appeal of being one of those guys like Gwynn, Ripken, Puckett, Mattingly, Ichiro or Yount that played for just one team their entire career, though. It's a short list.

I hope the Twins did let him go to us, just to mock us. Unfortunately, that involves dealing with a real human being's feelings as well, and they would never do that because of the respect they have for him up there. Kubel makes pretty much zero sense, unless the goal is to keep Viciedo from every playing in the big leagues again. Probably they'll sign Kubel to a three-year deal, keep Quentin and then Viciedo will be stuck in AAA hell forever. Would actually love to see Kubel and Viciedo together (from an offensive perspective) in the same outfield, but that would turn it into a zone rating/fielding minefield...because the "eye test" tells you Alex Rios hasn't even been an average CFer this year. And as far as Frasor goes, it seems like he might be another Riske. Where we decline the club option and don't offer arbitration. We'll see how well "Edwin Jackson Stewart" with a mullet does against the 2nd best pitcher in the AL. It might not be a pretty sight with the Angels sniffing a chance to get back into the AL West race.

Well, counting Teahen and Jackson, we've brought that down to the 110's. Yay!

Coming into that series, we had a legit chance to get a three game sweep, too. I remember Jim Kaat saying that the Sox were the best team in baseball (at that time). And, of course, Cotts wet the bed. Thankfully, he did something positive 2 years later.

Short, Marrero and Martinez are all more likely to end up in David Cook/Maurice Gartrell-Land than a major league roster. Danks is clearly on the outside looking in and he still has more upside than those three, arguably (especially in light of Flowers' surprising offensive resurgence the last two weeks after being given up for dead).

http://www.csnchicago.com/08/23/11/Rays-wr...&feedID=661 http://www.businessinsider.com/andrew-frie...t-pujols-2011-8 Friedman to the Astros still seems the most likeliest... And we know JR isn't going to reverse course and pay his GM among the Top 3-5 in the game...although with how much money they've wasted the last 3 seasons, it's almost unfathomable why they wouldn't want to spend more money on management/scouting/development/drafting/international free agents and LESS on the payroll.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AvIc...ndidates_082211 We could only dream about one of these guys. Instead, it will be Rick Hahn, Kim Ng or someone totally off the radar. Probably Josh Byrnes would be the best pick.

Well, we still have to rank ahead of the Astros, Cubs, Dodgers, Orioles, Mariners and probably the Mets. Although that's not saying much. And the sleeping giant on the northside could quickly reawaken with the right GM and manager in place and "stats-first" players like Ramirez and Soriano gone (yes, he has the same number of years as Dunn/Rios but the Cubs' new GM will be more likely to have the freedom dumping him than anyone the Sox have in that position vis a via Rios/Dunn/Peavy). After today, there's about a 90% probability we'll be 7 1/2 GB. Story on Billy Beane/Moneyball/current state of the game for "small market" teams http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/24/sports/b...&ref=sports

"I'd love to add Jim Thome back, to be honest with you," said Guillen, who was looking for a more versatile designated hitter that also could play the field when Thome left for Minnesota in 2010. "A lot of people think I don't want Jimmy. It was just at that time we didn't have any place for him. "But I have said day in and day out that Jimmy is one of my favorite guys in baseball. That's up to [general manger] Kenny [Williams]. I don't know if we're going to have five DHs. I don't expect him to be here, but if they want to bring him here, if you ask anybody wearing this uniform if they want Jim Thome back, everybody here would say yes. But that's not our department." Scott Merkin Sure, we have Adam Dunn but we don't actually need him anymore. Who are the other 5 DH's? Viciedo? Konerko? Flowers? Lillibridge? Quentin? The prevailing hypocrisy, double-speak and knife in the back routine with KW and Guillen this year and has been more interesting than the play in the field. Sometimes (such as last night's MLB "game"), you really think Ozzie is daring Reindsdorf and/or KW to fire him.

2008: full no-trade clause 2009 - July 15, 2010: limited no-trade protection allowing Buehrle to block trades to certain unspecified clubs. A trade triggers an escalator paying $1M raise to $15M annually, plus a guaranteed fifth year paying $15M for 2012. July 16, 2010-2011: Buehrle may not be traded without his permission, under right as 10-and-5 player Fine, but it's stupid if they're going to lose Buehrle anyway just to hold on to him until the end of the season and not get anything back in return. And it's not about "trading everybody," this is one specific player, perhaps the only one in this particular situation on the roster that's needed for a specific purpose on another playoff team. If nothing else, they could save $3+ million dollars, if they're so deperate not to lose money this year. What are they going to do, offer arbritation and play the same game they played before with Cabrera to get a draft pick? Then you end up with Mark Buehrle at $15+ million plus for 2012 instead of a 2-3 year deal at a much more reasonable number they actually might be willing to pay to keep him in the fold. Why did we trade some of our veterans at the end of 2009 then during the same time period? This ship has already sunk. It's now simply about rearranging the deck chairs and saving as many people (or as much money) as possible. Same rationale went into giving up Ray Durham for Jon Adkins. They wanted to look at Willie Harris then and save money. We need to start assessing every aspect of this team for next year...if Buehrle's not going to be around, what's the point? You're telling me the Yankees would prefer to start Ivan Nova and Phil Hughes over Buehrle? I don't think so. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,5482496.story

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 11:07 PM) You are hands down the best White Sox fan I've ever come across. You deserve some sort of commodation. Even this pathetic excuse of a team hasn't shaken you. I'm serious. Congrats on being No. 1 fan. Did you write THE HELP? Commode? Commendation? Hopefully he won't have a yard full of toilets like a certain character in the book.

He has full 10 and 5 rights. He would have to agree to any trade, or it would become part of the negotiation. Not sure he would agree to go to DET, but NY and Boston would be tough decisions for him and his family.

6-11 in extra innings looming, and 6 1/2 GB. It's basically all over but the fat lady singing. Once again, can't get back over .500 yet again. Ozzie continuing to manage like it's the final game of the minor league season and the results don't actually matter. What new???

Time to see which White Sox hitters can get around on a 97-99 MPH fastball besides Konerko.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 10:27 PM) vs lefties this year...who's who? .289/.313/.368/.682 .228/.307/.342/.649 .220/.278/.300/.578 They are Thornton, Ohman, and Sale in order. Difference is, Thornton and Sale hold righties below a .700 OPS too, so they can be used for an inning or two at a time. Righties are hitting at an .813 clip against Ohman. The game is tied, you need one lefty out, and you have enough other options to use against righties. Who do you want pitching in the 13th, given this information, Matt Thornton or Will Ohman? The problem is that you plan for the extra inning game with the White Sox offense but then Ozzie seems to end up losing the game before we can get there as often and not....and now Konerko's bat isn't in the line-up, either. I don't know. No matter what you do, this team just doesn't have it in 2012 and hasn't all year. It's like 2007 and 2009 all over again.

QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 10:24 PM) De Aza hasn't been coached long enough by Walker to ruin his swing. If we don't have a new hitting coach next season, I'd rather see him in the minors again where we can save his potential. Except he's already 29 or 30, isn't he? At least 28.

There's danger here, Sheree.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 10:21 PM) Cause it's still early. We play Detroit six more times and play the Central the final 21 games or so. Obviously sarcasm. He got VERY lucky there. I guess it worked, but it wasn't a wise move.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 10:19 PM) 1.) DeAza can run. He hits the ball very hard. He seems to belong. How old is he? I like him? There is absolutely no reason to play Rios over him next year. None. It will be criminal if Rios plays ahead of this guy. 2.) Exactly. It is a fairy tale that he will bounce back again, but the Dunn lovers will always have the upper hand on us. They'll say, 'You wait. He will break out of this and when he does...' It's not going to happen. He is horrific and I just wish Sox would let him earn his money as a pinch hitter in blowouts. Except he can't earn $14 million doing that. He's costing us the same as Ramirez, Thornton, Viciedo, Sale, Morel, Flowers, DeAza, Humber and Santos next year.

Here's where I will wonder why Sale or Thornton aren't being used when we simply can't afford to lose another game to the Tigers.

Is anyone willing to bet even $100 that Dunn hits 35 homers with 100 RBI's next year?

2000 career hits for Konerko. Congratulations. the greatest White Sox player since Frank Thomas clearly. Only 107 homers to 500 and the Hall of Fame.