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QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 02:28 PM) If Beckham still has significant trade value left, you have got to look into dealing him this offseason. He's another year away from full-out bust territory. Only to a team that has a very solid offense at most positions and needs to solidify its infield defense.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 02:25 PM) Really, I don't think anyone is calling KW stupid for letting Betemit go. If they are, I'll call them stupid. The revolving door of Fields, Teahen, Vizquel, Viciedo and Morel at 3B has made KW look stupid enough, as is. Would have been better had we just kept Uribe after 2008 on a two-year contract.

Getz singles, 20th steal of season. On second base with 2 outs now and at least a chance to tie it.

It's fitting that yet another former Sox player (Betemit) has come back to make KW look stupid... Thankfully, we don't see Hudson in our division. Can't imagine if he pitched against us and beat us so frequently as Verlander, Sabathia, Santana, Liriano, etc. Too bad Tyler won't get to play enough to catch Morel in RBI's, lol.

Game basically over in Detroit unless KC can somehow score off Valverde. 2 two-out doubles. Detroit deserves the division, plain and simple. And Ozzie/KW basically just gave it to them by not making any changes to the roster or line-up.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 02:15 PM) Next Year Pierre in LF? Viciedo at DH or LF or RF or 3B Quentin in LF or RF or DH Konerko at 1B Beckham at 2B Ramirez at SS Morel ? at 3B AJP or Flowers C De Aza in CF Who are you trading Rios for? Chone Figgins? Barry Zito?

Sure, trade your 2nd fastest bat in Viciedo for the slowest bat in the majors. Makes sense, Ozzie. Go for it. Play Dunn and Rios. I dare you.

Tie game in Detroit. Alex Gordon dove for it and just missed it...this time "clutch anti-Dunn" Martinez comes through.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 02:08 PM) With Danks, the Sox should give them their best and last offer for a contract extension this offseason. If he says no, then you have to trade him. You can't afford to let him go to free agency, as the Sox will be outbid for him and honestly, getting two draft picks doesn't mean much to this organization. Kind of like KW's rationalizing a Jon Adkins acquisition was about as good as draft picks for Ray Durham. But hey, we saved a lot of money to watch Willie Harris struggle as a starter.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 02:04 PM) Will Boston really be in the market for SP after 2012? Buchholz and Lester sorta give them a lot of depth. They'll lose Dice K from the payroll by then. Lackey's deal probably goes forever. Then you have Josh Beckett and the ageless Wakefield. Leadoff triple for Jackson, 4/4 today. Would have been nice if Gordon could have rebounded in 2011 like he did in 2010 and like Austin Jackson did this year in the 2nd half. 4-3 lead now for the Royals. Not counting on their bullpen holding up.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 02:01 PM) He's not going to make 17 million a year. Well...not next year, but 2013 as part of a long-term extension. Hey Ozzie, maybe someone who's outhomering Dunn and Rios with 30-40% of their at-bats deserves more playing time down the stretch? Nah, that would be too logical. As it is, De Aza gets benched when Quentin comes back. Or even worse, DeAza/Viciedo in a platoon DH situation. Ugh.

Ummm....why would a struggling franchise pay John Danks $17 million a year? That's crazy. No way Reinsdorf will do that after this season...they'll trade Danks, Quentin and possibly Thornton (depending on where Sale ends up). And now we're in the classic "no man's land/in between" situation with our roster whereas it would be better to just play Flowers nearly every day, but we're "stuck" with AJ's $6 million. Maybe we can trade him if we eat $1.5 million...

QUOTE (mcgrad70 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 01:51 PM) Hudson was suppose to turn into Dunn but Kenny got played. Could have found out in a lost season Dunn was going to be a bust - may have changed everything. But I didn't like the Hudson trade no matter what the intention. I thought it was Jackson they actually wanted....and it blew up when they wanted us to give them Viciedo (in addition) instead of Flowers. Of course, maybe the fact that they also acquired Ramos from the Twins ended the Flowers part of it, as well. You'd have to wonder why Rizzo would want Jackson over Hudson with a rebuilding team. But who knows what actually happened in reality. I can't imagine the screaming if we had traded those two guys for Dunn, it would be a lot uglier than the Sox crowd has been with Jake today.

Back to the good 'ol White Sox with runners on base. Oh well, guess we were due for a clunker. Tigers still trailing 4-2 going to the bottom of the 7th.

Make that a one-out double in DET. At least they're turning Martinez to his traditionally weaker side.

We're getting REALLY lucky this Adcock (spot starter) just showed up out of nowhere to pitch decently for KC or we'd be looking at a 7 game deficit with Verlander looming...that would be all she wrote. Oops, the dreaded leadoff double from Cabrera. Collins in to face Martinez. Gee KW, maybe if we had Victor instead of Dunn, we'd be in first place...

Why did I wake up at 200 am to listen to this crap, lol? Going to have to reset the alarm and see if we've somehow managed a comeback by 400 am. Not likely, but it's at least possible to believe in compared to a month ago. I'm sure the marketing department's going to have lots of fun selling Rios/Peavy/Dunn/Beckham turning things around this offseason.

Boos cascading down on Jake Peavy, pretty darned loud. Ouch! Seemed to be a routine fly ball that just kept carrying due to the weather conditions.

Rios with misplay/bad read/late break number #171 this season. Why, oh why, does Ozzie still keep running him out there?

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 08:36 PM) Not true, sounds like organization was looking for any reason to limit Humber's innings. Cooper's going to have to make Stewart basically a sinker specialist it seems, which is fine cause it worked well for Garland. Yeah, it was already clear to SoxTalk and anyone observing closely that Humber was going to be in trouble 4-6 weeks ago as he collided with that 140 IP mark. If KW was ignorant of the possibility....then he should have transitioned Sale to starter. Unfortunately, with how well Chris has been going (arguably one of the top 3 set-up guy now for 2+ months)...they couldn't afford to move him. But that all comes back on KW, yet again.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 08:35 PM) Are you really making a fair judgement here ? I'm sure you haven't forgotten that Stewart would be in the minors or in long relief for the Sox if not for the injury to Humber. It is kind of funny. Of course, the Cardinals haven't gone anywhere with Jackson, but that's not exactly the point. That Hudson trade will haunt him for a long time, especially if Stewart ends up more Marquez/Tony Pena and less Danks/Floyd/Hudson/Gio.

Guess Cooper hasn't fixed Stewart yet. Oh, well. Just not meant to be this season. On the bright side, we've improved to something like 11-30 against the Twins since May, 2009, with our four consecutive victories mixed in there.

Except by Marty34, Joe Cowley and Greg775, yes...I was trying to be nice!!!

If Ozzie's going to call the fans "idiots," then we might as well call him one right back. If anyone deserves the chance to play more often based on their improvement and effort/hustle this season, it's Lillbridge. Playing DeAza/Flowers/Viciedo doesn't make up for this stupidity....not only playing him over Brent, but in the clean-up spot so Konerko will see absolutely nothing good to hit. Surely Gardenhire's just telling his staff to work around Paulie and daring Rios to beat them.

Royals take the lead on a Billy Butler SAC FLY, 1-0. Thanks Ozzie for sabotaging the little chance we have to win this last month by playing Rios and batting him 4th. Idiot.