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At least Dunn was on that pitch against Verlander. That's a good sign. He just got under it, but it was a good pass compared to what he's been doing for a month. Rios is going to become more unpopular than Pierre in time because there's just no light at the end of the tunnel.

Sizemore homer scores Hafner, 5-3 Indians in the bottom of the 5th at BALT. The ball is carrying really well tonight...some balls getting to the track that are unexpected.

Rios actually battled a bit there, but you HAVE to come up with 2 runs in that situation. Hopefully that won't come back to haunt us. Verlander's already in the mid 90's for pitch count.

Good play there by Raburn. Saved at least one run.

SIGH.

Seems like this is the situation of the game. We score 2 runs or more and we win. Don't score, and the Tigers take all the momentum.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 15, 2011 -> 07:17 PM) Was the guy at 1b a threat to run? That slide step is where G gets hurt Ordonez wasn't going anywhere. Tigers have a big decision to make on Raburn. Wait until he gets hot (putting up with the below-average defense) or go to Carlos Guillen as the starter when he returns. Raburn's a .290 hitter after the ASB, but he's on the verge of losing his job. Now his error opened up the possibility of a big inning. All the White Sox hits have been on curves or change-ups tonight. Interesting, for a "fastball first" team.

Teahen redefining the term "hot corner." Would feel a lot better with a 3 run lead. Thankfully, Verlander's pitch count is up there...we have to get him out of there in the 6th or 7th and get to their pen and score again.

D-Lee now 9/65 with RISP. Good thing we have Konerko. Of course, two run homer after the passed ball/wild pitch. Should only be 4-1.

Asdrubal Cabrera almost catching up with Quentin in homers, hit his 16th. Tied 3-3 against the Orioles.

Dunn stepping up in 2nd Half. Rios, not so much. Wow, a pretty decent play by Teahen. He's actually not so bad on that type of ball where he's fielding the ball on the run. It's when he's stationary that he gets in the most trouble.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 15, 2011 -> 06:53 PM) Very nice swing by Carlos! Come on Rios, remember that you used to be a doubles machine. Yeah, May 2010.

Are we the Twins now? 4 hits, all singles? Only the 2nd time this season he's given up 4 or more runs. NOW GAVIN, please don't choke away the lead. You can't have Verlander down 4-0 and let them get away.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 15, 2011 -> 06:45 PM) That probably means it was a safety squeeze, not a suicide Not a bad call against Cabrera coming off the oblique strain, but the majority of MLB 1B make that play at home with the bare hand toss and this inning suddenly looks much uglier. Did Dunn actually get a hit? What the heck? A single? Through the shift? Back to back change-ups. Verlander outthinking himself there. Would have been better off with FB or curve, as you don't want to speed up his bat.

Wow...it worked, but there should have been a play at the plate had Cabrera fielded it cleanly. Beckham got a really bad break off third. Seems like Pierre did that completely on his own. It wasn't called, judging by Gordon's reaction. Konerko 5/42, 1 HR against Verlander.

QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Jul 15, 2011 -> 06:34 PM) we could of had martinez for 4/50 and we have done instead I'm convinced Venezuelan players don't want to play for Ozzie after the situation with Magglio. Omar Vizquel came, yay! Beckham continues to keep up his hot hitting....maybe not all line drives, but they all look the same in the box score.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 15, 2011 -> 06:30 PM) give me a break. some of you need to get verlander's dick out of your mouth. I would have said the same thing were I a fan of another team facing Contreras in 05-06. You can appreciate great starting pitchers without denigrating your own team. Great defense there, Te5aHAN. AJ 17 for 57 (.298) now against Verlander, only 14 stayed in the park.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 15, 2011 -> 06:25 PM) I eagerly await Dick Allen posting the "2nd half comeback" remarks about Dunn and Rios. I eagerly await Greg bringing up that we've lost 12 out of our last 13 against the Tigers. Or an anemic 8-17 AL Central record. Detroit would be 19-8, Minnesota 18-11. Well, at least we owned them for basically a decade. And the Tigers were only 7-11 in interleague.

Well, at least you can appreciate Verlander's greatness this year. That's about the only reason to be entertained by this game. 6 outs in a row.

It's not WHAT he says, it's the cavalier way in which he says it. Great job by Floyd. Although I think once the 3rd inning starts, the hitters will be back to normal with the shadows receding. Normally, he's either lights out...no hitter type stuff or he gets ripped to shreds by the Tigers. No very much in-between. Tigers have won 11 of their last 12 against us. Didn't realize it was that bad. Their announcers credit us giving up Thome to the Twins for the turnaround. That's one move that hasn't gotten much play around here in terms of KW criticism. Two strikes on Dunn before he's even in the batter's box.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 15, 2011 -> 06:10 PM) So Ozzie doesnt care if he is fired? Great fire his butt I think he actually wants to get fired. As long as he doesn't quit, he's covered. It's just sad that KW won't call him on it. Makes the whole organization look foolish, chaotic, and to quote the thread title, in disarray. Too bad I can't hear Hawk sighing after that leadoff walk. Uh-oh.

I don't think a no-hitter against us gets us any closer to changes. It's going to take our usual 3-5 mental errors per game over the final 2 1/2 weeks of July. In all fairness, the shadows are really playing tricks with hitters and will continue to do so for the first 2-3 innings.

Verlander hasn't been touched up his last 7 starts in a row against us. We used to, maybe not quite own him, but we really lit him up in the first 3-4 years of his career. Only 6 ER in last 72+ innings. 9 consecutive starts with 2 runs or less given up. One of the best streaks (other than Hershiser or Pedro) from a pitcher since the 1960's.

It was a game at Cincy in late May or early June that 2006 that Contreras lost the winning streak AND hurt himself. Was never the same (with the White Sox) after that. Seems he really struggled with arm angles and location from that point on....and he lost confidence in the fastball, which kept too much pressure on his forkball, which was consistently erratic. Didn't he always lead the league in passed balls while he was with us? It's pretty amazing what he could do with just two pitches. Same with Edwin Jackson when he's right. Which hasn't been very often.

Are you rating the music and girls' dominatrix outfits or the actual movie itself?? Everyone besides Abbie Cornish was ridiculously bad in that movie....I mean, errr, extended video game/music video. It couldn't decide if it was a male fantasy pseudo-softcore porn movie or an action adventure. It turned out to neither. Interesting visually, but the screenplay made Avatar look like Grapes of Wrath or War and Peace.