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https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/brebbjo01.shtml Forgot to include Brebbia being released and then going to the Braves, granted SSS

I mean...are they dynamic or athletic players who can run and throw exceptionally and flash at least 3/4 out of the five traditional scouting tools??? Or have the potential to at the very least? Projections...? Solid to above average hitter still might be a major victory for the Sox.

My biggest problem with Thorpe is the Padres have had a TON of pitching prospects go in and out of that system and none of the starters traded have done a thing but Gore and Quantrill and Weathers to a lesser extent... Gore was pretty much the equivalent of a Giolito, already a well known quantity, traded for one of the biggest stars in the game. Now the Pads have given up a helluva former bullpen of studs. Just not many starters have made it. (Ofc you can argue Thorpe is more a Yankees' prospect if that makes one feel better.)

Albeit with limited tools... If they signed a veteran in Adames Kim or Torres to lead the team and play SS...heck, someone exactly like Edman would be fine, because it better not to Amaya or Baldwin. But those guys all have too many better options. It's not going to be Soto or Alonso, that's for sure. There's just no way JR will spend the money for anyone beyond DeJong and Kevin Newman retread types that are well under $5 million. Lopez's $3.8 million seems like the ceiling here.

Beyond Vargas, they should also be studying the Burger/Eder trade, Santos to SEA, Fletcher instead of McCarthy and the process behind each one of these heretofore "bad" trades...trying to ascertain exactly where things went wrong in the evaluations. For example, Fletcher had more years of control and wasn't in ARB yet, was that the main factor...but why identify players already in their mid 20's when they will be well past their prime years of production when the team is next competitive again? Not trading with any other Central teams other than KC? How in God's name was that logical/reasonable...when the Sox won't be a factor in the division until at least 2027, and that's at the earliest, the way things are looking right now (barring another Skenes being available 1-1 in the 2026 draft)? And why bring back CLEVINGER when the entire goal the last two years was ridding the team of "bad influences/bad clubhouse/chemistry guys"?????

On paper, almost all of the Hahn moves at least MADE SENSE...you could at least understand the thinking behind them. Of course, he had Sale Quintana Eaton and Frazier/Robertson/Kahnle to trade off, two of them with friendly team-controlled contracts. And higher draft picks as well, compared to #10. What is the current value of Crochet and Robert right now compared to those four aforementioned trade packages above? 1/3rd? And then you have the fact that Minnesota, Cleveland, KC and Detroit are all currently better positioned than the Sox...maybe Minnesota will have to rebuild until/unless they get new ownership in the face of competition from those other three AL Central teams. And then you have a situation where the White Sox might end up producing the LEAST amount of money compared to even small markets like CLE and KC for their broadcasting rights.

Well, the only argument here left is gate keepers KW Getz Barfield and eventually Beckham played the sport professionally...compared to Hahn and Haber as ivory tower sons of privilege who have run off into hiding with their tails between their legs.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41986732/browns-sue-city-cleveland-seek-clarification-modell-law City will attempt to block Cleveland Browns from moving out of downtown area after 2028...team suing in return

What does our new Marine Corps guy have to say about all of this??? He's the director of leadership, culture and continuing education. This isn't a position that needs prior baseball experience at all.

Warren Buffett...maybe

Torborg one of the best managers and to the Mets but over thirty years ago now. Crazy. Francona not recognized for the sake of Bevington. Jim Leyland run off in the 80s. Meanwhile we get the Wally Backman's Omar Vizquels and yet another villain whose name escapes me. Wes Helms and Wallace Johnson.

We know it wasn't Hahn...

https://www.mlb.com/news/mike-gellinger-joins-white-sox-coaching-staff He would be the most likely internal candidate outside of Sizemore…with the longest history connected to org. Health problems in recent years, where he had to take a step away for a while.

The following year Guidry was to have been dealt to Toronto for Bill Singer in a transaction that was approved by the Yankees but was vetoed by Blue Jays president Peter Bavasi.[6] Went on to make four All Star teams from 1979 to mid 80s.

Probably the Twins...

Only Dodgers' non HoF player with a number retired...

SS?

Boeing received $60 million over 20 years. The White Sox are asking for roughly $1 billion...or more. And that's just the beginning, not even considering maintenance and upkeep.

Boeing received $60 million over 20 years. The White Sox are asking for roughly $1 billion...or more. And that's just the beginning, not even considering maintenance and upkeep.

Blum game sound familiar? Ozuna was a candidate to pitch...or Buehrle in relief.

Monty Williams is available...

78 at least looks like something futuristic. Staying at the present location...just like using antennas for tv, simply feels like the past and out of touch. There's simply no intriguing vision there left to sell. Sox have done enough making up for mistakes of the past...which inevitable makes things even worse.

Or better yet, the GOATest...Barry Sanders. And Scott Mitchell wasn't that bad.

Poor Detroit...at that time. At least they had 2006 after 2003.

For baseball, we’re closest to the Mariners (playoff ineptitude) or Twins (family ownership group, similarity in tight fisted spending)